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Jon Morosi tweets read with a dramatic voice

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) Rick Hahn on 670 tomorrow after the 9am update. 9am?

There is undeniably an attitude problem with this team. It isn't the whole problem, there have been injuries, bad luck, aging, young players not taking steps forward, but also attitude. It has not felt like many players on this team cared about the results of games for much of the season.

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 1m Hearing Dodgers and Twins made last-minute deal. Not a blockbuster. C Drew Butera to Dodgers.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:17 PM) Since this has become the deadline catch-all, the biggest loss amongst the whole deadline is not getting anything for Lindstrom. Even an organizational player is worth more than his production the rest of the way Might be worth picking up his $4M option to see if you can deal him next year

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:16 PM) really sucks when a 3-way just fails to materialize despite expectations If it's anything like my experience, there's always only one party that ever believed it might happen

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 35s there was a 3-way trade that didnt quite make it at the end. so no more deals from what i hear. #3way

I think we'll find the market to be far more hospitable in the offseason. I assume we won't see much of Avisail this season, though, which is sort of bummer but probably a blessing in disguise.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) Pretty s*** good deadline to be honest. Meh Good return for Peavy. No money kicked in at all so we have saved 20 million dollars and neither Rios or Alexei moved yet.

Now that the deadline has passed, it is nearly inevitable that we start rattling off wins

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) I look for Rios to be a problem for this team attitude wise, I really wanted him gone. He seems to have become a symbol for what has been wrong with our team this year. I didn't want to dump him for nothing, but I wouldn't have missed him if we traded him. Hope he sets the world on fire for us and makes us unexpectedly good next season

Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst 1m I'm told at least one trade was completed before the deadline. Stay tuned

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) I'm with you on this, they're generally never players for big FAs and this year's FA class is particularly weak. Plus the team needs more than just a few FAs to be competitive, they need to be rebuilt completely. I see them just getting cheaper and keeping the difference. This is silly. We either need several new bats or several players to really increase production, but our pitching WAR this year is third in baseball. The rotation is really good and it looks like we now have more MLB-ready starters than we have rotation spots. No reason to tear down entirely when the pitching is this good. I'm sure we're trying to be ready for a playoff charge in 2015

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) I still see a lot of what is saved not being reinvested back in the club. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see the team adding another 20-30M in payroll this off-season. I see them maybe adding 10M in payroll which isn't all that significant. IF they unloaded Rios and Ramirez, then I could see the club dropping 20-25M in the off-season (potentially). However, I could see the team target some young players who will be due bigger contracts sooner and land those players and then extend them. We'll have a very low payroll if we go into next season as we are now. If we trade Rios/Alexei, really low. We haven't been a team to sit on cash before. I don't think we'll go for broke, but I'd be surprised if we don't plan to reinvest a fair chunk of change

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) In which case I have zero problem holding onto him. At some point a team will be in need of a RF (either in the off-season or at the next deadline) and at that point, with less cash owed, this team should potentially be able to get a good asset for him. The downside is we know Rios can be streaky and if he didn't show, you'd then be stuck eating all 18M for a relatively unproductive player (probably part of why teams are unwilling to take on his contract). Still, I'd like the Sox to pair down the payroll and free up cash to add assets. Despite these few trades, the system is still pretty barren and we are going to have a tough time rebuilding if the team doesn't have ample cash to use to add talent (this includes veteran FA's). We're going to have a buttload of money for next year

booooooring

Offseason trades, hurrah!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) I don't know if Vicedo's bat profiles enough at this point to stick in one of those positions. The good news is he has improved significantly year over year against right handed pitching and I tend to think his performance against lefties is a little fluky. Ultimately we've seen him take quite a few steps forward and that is a positive sign. We know the tools are there and this is just his 2nd full year. It would seem to be that he is potentially in line for a big step forward in 2014. I need him to hit better to move him off LF. He loses so much value if he moves out of the OF right now, with the questions about his bat. I too am very encouraged by the adjustments he seems to be making.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) If Konerko retires, who would be next in line to be captain of the Sox? Personality-wise, Gordo is the clear leader in the clubhouse

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:52 PM) There will be an open spot in LF most likely after this year with Viciedo going to DH or 1B God I hope not

FWIW, I think all these vets will be much easier to move in the offseason. Teams are much happier to take on salary in the offseason

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I don't think it would be dumb at all. If some team wants to take on his 12.5 mil, the Sox can lose games with or without him. Keep him, be a better team, and if you don't become a better team, you'll eventually get players out of trading him. Hold on to these guys until you can get the young players you seek out of them

Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales 59s Rios returns from early BP, sounds like only ? Is whether he's in Sox's lineup

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) Pretty obvious teams aren't giving up anything for Rios. Hopefully a team will just claim him in August and they can get the payroll cleared. But even then, I'll believe it when I see it. It would be very, very dumb for us to just let him go to save money. He's a good player that will have value at the next deadline if we're not doing well next year

I'm imagining Rios sitting there feeling very uncomfortable as all the beat writers stare at him