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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:22 PM) another turn through the rotation and we have . . . UP TO THE SECOND SP TRUST LEVELS: 1a.) Jon Garland - Jonny boy came up absolutely huge, saving the Sox from being swept by the Rangers. I now trust him more than any other starter, I feel dirty. 2.) Jose Contreras - Ok outing from the Count in a big game Vs the Twins, a pathetic 0-2 pitch to resulting in a 3 Run Homer off the top of the left field wall sealed his fate however. I guess I'm still pretty damn confident in him. Totally agree ^ - - - - - - 3.) Javier Vazquez - 5 INNINGS OF PURE DOMINATION YO! Too bad this isn't softball or Vazquez would be the spiff. He sucked but not as bad as Buehrle so he jumps into the #3 spot which isn't saying much. As of right now, Vasquez would be my 5, by far. He has never showed us that he can be a consistently successful pitcher, he's more or less performing like he's always performed. He needs to piece several good starts together before I can force myself to believe he is capable of being a good pitcher. 4.) Mark Buehrle - 5 straight losses and he's allowed 5 runs or more in all of them, he's given up 47 hits in his last 26 2/3 innings of work. I don't know WTF is wrong with him but I don't really see an end to the suckiness in sight. Buehrle is my 3, although it's a hesitant move. He's been bad for a long stretch of time now, but I have faith he will eventually return to previous form. Previous form. Something Vasquez has little of to fall back on. But that's a different story. - - 5.) Freddy Maddux - A fluky start from the Mad Dog nets him a notch on the board, I still have no interest in seeing him pitch for the Sox. His situation is one of utter mystery. While I'm not incredibly pleased with Freddy, he did do better his last start and tomorrow we'll see if it was a fluke or maybe he will start to do better. He's my 4. He has the stuff to be a consistently dominant starter and has been in the past. Maybe a kick in the ass by Oz could jumpstart him, or the possibility of changing teams or being on a losing White Sox team could have the same effect.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) What gun are you basing this on? Many of them are very inconsistent. The TV ones rarely seem to be right. From what I've seen he's been right around where he normally, generally about 87-88 on his fastball. I was basing this off the TV gun that has his fastball and cutter slower, but his changeup the same speed, so I assumed his fastball must be slower.

Too good to be true.

QUOTE(southsida86 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) Sweeney has Zero power. You can't have your RF hitting less than 15 HRs a year. Although I have not beared witness to this, but many feel Sweeney's home run potential is relatively high. He is only 21 years old, he has more time to grow. We need more gap/doubles/contact hitters as it is. (No I don't mean Podsednik slapping popups to the left side non-stop. Does anyone remember a time when your "speed guy" just beat it into the ground and ran like hell? And on that note, Podsednik should be fast enough that they never turn a double play on him, but it happens all the time. I doubt his effort sometimes.)

There are some unspecified minor leaguers in that spreadsheet I'd be interesting in knowing.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 02:14 PM) Location is killing Buerhle more than his velocity. He has survived with pinpoint control at below 90. His control is off, and worse is he is leaving pitches up. 88 and 84 are vastly different. And as I said it makes his changeup more ineffective even when thrown correctly. Right now batters can guard the low part of the zone easily because they have plenty of time to adjust to the high pitches. QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) My co-worker thinks Mark is injured and asked about his velocity. When I saw him last Friday, he was hitting 88 with regularity on the gun, and I've never seen him top that when I've been at games (I know once in a while he'll get into the 90s), so I told him: it's not velocity. You could make the argument with Freddy, but Mark? Naw, it's something else. But I have never seen a pitcher collapse so quickly after years of realiability. Unless, as my co-workers says, those years of tons of innings are now coming crashing down on him. Yesterday's game he hit 87 only once. I don't know if it's the career innings or innings of late or even an injury or lack of effort, but he needs to make some kind of change. If he ends the year above 5 ERA, I don't expect the Sox to pick up his option.

You don't take him out after the 5th, you just don't let him give up runs in the 6th. Ozzie needs to take control of the game when its 6th inning or later and Javy lets men on. It's just time to take him out late in the game with runners on. He proves day in and day out that he can't work out of jams later on in outings.

Has anyone else noticed Buehrle's drop in velocity? He was never a hard thrower at all, but he was usually in the 87-90 range with his fastball and usually 77-79 with the change. In his last few starts, his fastball has been around 83-86 and his change is the same speed (He also threw several 81 mph cutters yesterday). Not only does this drop in velocity cause a smaller margin for error, there is a much smaller difference in speed between his fastball and change-up, which is ideally 9-12 mph slower than your fastball. Mix this with imperfect location, you get the Buehrle of the last month.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 11:16 PM) Since the man BMac would most likely be replacing in the rotation, Javier Vazquez, is a five-inning pitcher, BMac wouldn't have to be stretched out much to be a better option. Well Vazquez is one hell of a five inning pitcher, if only he would just be done after his five shutout innings.

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:00 AM) i think you need to use your northsidebaseball.com account I didn't think it needed the green.

Yes. So when someone finds my 20 grand, I'll give them a nickel because they will benefit more in the end from the other people.

QUOTE(bmags @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:20 AM) i'm glad...everynight i go to bed thinking ... "there is a chance this will be the greatest action movie of all time, and i will feel embarrassed, but also pride" haha i doubt it. but samuel l. will definitely kick some ass. and i see it has keenan, but no kel? come on man.

QUOTE(bmags @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) you could have tooken that as you might like dispatch too there high horse. finally read the bottom...and no...i just don't like dave matthews. The fact that he's popular just gives me more opportunities to not like him. I dislike OAR just as much, but i don't have as many opportunities to say why i hate them. I don't hate pop music because its pop...i hate it because its spiff. I miss the days when the bands i listened to were aspiring to be number 1 on the radio...but whatever its not that bit of a hit to my experience with them. Totally unrelated, but everytime I see Snakes on a Plane commercials I think of your sig and laugh.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) I wouldn't say that. Bowden has 4 days to hear some offers. I'm sure KW has one on the table, and if someone tops it, KW tips his cap and lets Soriano go. There's still a long time until the deadline. spiff will start hitting the fans soon enough. I don't really expect anything to happen till Sunday night. Maybe even later than that.

Kasey Kahne is God.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 11:16 PM) How many of these type of threads are we going to have? Starting a "Let's get going" thread after every series loss is not gonna magically spark this team. Yes it will! Naysayer!

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) That's great, it starts off in Boston, Sox and Sox, 19 Innings - Kenny Williams is not afraid. Off to the allstar break, listen to Ozzie spin, The Press serves its own needs, Ozzie serve your own needs. Feed it off Ozzie speak,, grunt, no, strength, The White Sox start to clatter with fear fight New York. Wire in a fire, representing three games, a government for hire and a combat site. Left of Queens and coming in a hurry with the Yankees breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped. Look at that low playing! Fine, then. Uh oh, overflow, population, New York food, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs, listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and the revered and the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty psyched. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in Comerica. Slash and burn, return, stumble back to Chicago. Locking in, uniforming, book burning, blood letting. Every motive escalate. Texas heat incinerate. Light a candle, light a votive. Step down, step down. Watch your heel crush, crushed. Uh-oh, this means no fear cavalier. Jon Garland steer clear! A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer KW solutions, offer KW alternatives and he declines. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine. (I feel fine) It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine. The other night I dreamt of Texas, Kevin Mench can't be stopped. Wild Card sit in a line Brad Radke. Johan Santana. Carlos Silva and Joe Nathan. Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic, third place team, right? Right. It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it. It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine. It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine. It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it. (It's time I had some time alone) It's the end of the world as we know it (It's time I had some time alone) and I feel fine...

Our hearts have not gone to spiff. I like the language filters

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 10:49 PM) PITCHING=sucks HITTING=wasn't gonna keep up first half numbers DEFENSE=pablo and mack? HEART=NONE LEFT That's all we need right now.

Yeah right Spiff, you're full of spiff!

Wishful thinking.

haha. i dont even know what to say to that.

QUOTE(RoyHobbs @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) Look no further than the first game Grossman came back. Can we say deep ball. It was such a great thing to see and hopefully we see nothing but that all of next year. Can't wait for Bears Season. What up TalkBears! ToddO'Connor16 Deep ball for the Bears last season is anything over 10 yards.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jul 26, 2006 -> 04:10 PM) That just might be my favorite smiley. Ever.

I really would rather have Tony G than Cintron, even tho Cintron is a lefty. I just really like the brand of ball Tony plays. He's the type of player the Sox need.