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I guarenetee you that Marte makes the playoff roster.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) 1) Sirotka 2) Baldwin 3) Parque 4) Eldred Can Parque start Game 1?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 13, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) thats right, I voted for Contreras. Thats right. Go with the hot hand, and the potentialy dominating stuff. Im going with the splitter, the forball, the change, the Sidearm fastball, the power. im hoping for a cold day, a day where the bats dont come alive. Where the batters are caught between mid-90's fastballs and fluttering forkballs. Where a giant immigrant shuts down the other team and sets the tone for the series. I voted for Jose Me too.

This board is housing a fugitive. Isn't that a federal offense?

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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) McCarthy is 21. Small is in his mid-30s. When one guy continues to do what he's been doing the past two years (minus two months or so), yes, there's reason for optimism. When the other guy is pitching about two ERA points better then his career line, at the age of what, 33 (?), yeah, that's a little odd. I was responding to you saying that he's proven he can be a capable AL starter, which isn't true... Using that logic, we shouldn't have gotten Podsednik considering he broke into the majors late? QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 12, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) Just something I ran across today, 4 of our starters are in the top 15 in the AL in terms of ERA+. That is pretty damn impressive. Add a McCarthy that actually throws a changeup to that and you have the best starting rotation in the leauge. I will give you that they've underperformed since the break though. Well yeah. Look, I really have no problems with our rotation. The season usually goes like this for pitchers: Either you get off to a hot start and reach a tiring point in which you need offense to support you or you start off sluggish and turn it on for the rest of the year. We got off to a hot start. It's time for our offense to carry us and it really hasn't done that. We've came out bad against good ballclubs. This pitching would've been perfect with last year's offense with Pierzynski replacing last year's C and Iguchi replacing Valentin/Harris.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) Well he is what he is and he's on our team. He should be in and considered a member of our starting rotation at this point in the season but whether or not that happens is up to Ozzie. Well he should be is different than he is. Trust me. I'm a duque fan and know he has nothing right now and should be switching roles with McCarthy, but that isn't what happened. Can't count a guy in the rotation who isn't there because Ozzie is not the brightest bulb. No hard feelings though. Just a nice debate.

I can't help but laugh. I'm glad you had such a great day.

Honestly, I'd take Lloyd McLendon(a guy with fire, and is known for smarts) over Ozzie. I like fathom want the same thing in a manager. I know we won't ever get a Bobby Cox, but I want a guy who knows what he's doing. Give me Torre, give me LaRussa, give me McLendon, Leyland, Scosia, Tracy, Brenly, Howe, Randolph, Pinella, (does the list need to go further for me to get the point through? hope not).

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Roger Clemens' ERA for the last 5 starts is 4.45. He's not a dominant pitcher I guess. Replace El Duque with McCarthy because we have no reason not to believe that the McCarthy with the major league change up isn't a better pitcher at this time. I said rotation. McCarthy isn't in our rotation last time I checked. Small's ERA so far is 2.82 the whole year. It's 3.00 the last 30 days. That's pretty damn good. He would be the 2nd best pitcher on this staff currently. So yes, we should find a way to get him on our team. He's pitched 51.0 innings. That's about 7 games worth of starts. Was our staff dominating earlier in the year? Yeah. Is it dominating now during the stretch run? Hell no and it hasn't been for the most part after the AS break.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:22 PM) I don't see Vince Young making it through the rest of this season healthy. He got the piss beat out of him against a very good OSU defense and if he continues to run like he's currently doing, he's going to take a seriously beating from other teams as well. Hell, near the end of the OSU game he was feeling dizzy from all the hits he had taken, I see him getting a concussion or other serious injury somewhere around game 6 or 7. That can't help his NFL status. He felt dizzy, that's true. Dizzy enough to not be able to keep his poise or lead his team to a comeback victory? Nope. Any football player after any game is hurting. That's the nature of the beast. That's why they don't play games every other day. He'll make it through the whole season. QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:30 PM) Vince Young wont be an NFL QB... his arm strength isnt that great and he isnt michael vick on the ground to make up for his lack of passing skills. If he is in the NFL it will be as a converted WR. Leinart should be a very good QB in the NFL but idonno if I want to take a chance/waste a pick on another QB. Would be really cool if we could trade for Bree's this off-season... I dont think the chargers will trade Rivers and he has to start somewhere next season. Care to make a wager that he'll be a drafted a QB and play QB in the NFL? His arm strength is pretty damn good. His accuracy is arguably better than Vick's and his and Vick's speed is the same. It was even said in the OSU/Texas telecast on ABC. The thing Young doesn't have that Vick has is the incredible athleticism. I'm not talking about speed, but the flips and the ability to make people miss. That's why Young won't be a WR in the league. He has speed and all that, but he doesn't have the crafty moves. As far as Brees, I don't see the Bears getting him. They'll either draft a QB, sign one through FA or keep Orton. I'm going with the latter.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) If that's? What are you talking about? This weekend? Cause that would be such a good representation of what they are. Let's check the ERA of our staff the past 30 days. Garland: 4.35 Buehrle: 3.86 Garcia: 4.32 Hernandez: 6.59 Contreras: 2.72 Care to rethink that statement because the only dominating one I see in there is Count. Our 2nd best pitcher can't do anything against elite teams. Hernandez has been sucking majorly. Garland and Garcia are nothing better than mediocre. And remember, this is the last 30 days, not just this month.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) There's what, 20 games left, right? Let's say Cleveland plays .750 ball, which is pretty possible. They play Oakland for three, and us for six. Then, the rest is bleh. We'd have to play .500 to make the playoffs. If this team can't play .500, with seven games left against KC/Detroit, and six left against Minny -- then man... there won't be a paper bag big enough for White Sox fandom. BTW -- don't quote me on it, but I don't think we draw Santana for next weekend's series at the Dome. So, there's your good news of the day. So who does Buehrle choke against next week then?

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:17 PM) I believe a good director can make a good movie out of a bad script, and vice versa. Yup. I thought of this too.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:15 PM) CWS.... We don't agree often, but I definitely think we need to move Uribe up in the order. Honestly, what the f*** do we have to lose right now? Our offense has struggled for so long, changes need to be made. I'd have no problem with Uribe in the 3rd spot, and PK in the 4th spot. Against a righty, Rowand needs to be near the bottom of the order. What I don't understand is why we seem to promote guys higher in the order the more they struggle. Also, why not give someone like Borchard a chance to get hot and spark the offense? The thing is, we need some people to step up and carry this offense like PK and Uribe have been doing. Dye has left a ton of guys on base lately. I wouldn't mind Borchard subbing in alot more for Dye & Rowand. Get Anderson in there at times too.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) I'm just relaying directly what I heard from a major NFL agent about those guys. Young has a very bad release, and NFL scouts think he might end up being made a WR in the NFL. It's funny, but the name I've heard Leinart compared to is Rex Grossman. I actually like Leinart though, and would take him this second over Kyle Orton. Young's arm slot looks okay with me. I think he would make an exceptional QB in the league and that would be his best position. Grossman isn't that bad except for the fact that he can't stay on the field.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:06 PM) I'll feel a lot more comfortable about the situation as a whole if McCarthy is put in a rotation. And this coming from an El Duque fan. He needs to be put in the rotation. Uribe NEEDS to be put lower in the order. I agree on El Duque. I'm a big fan of him, but he just doesn't have it. Stick McCarthy in there and save Duque if anything for the playoffs so his arm doesn't fall off. QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) Don't you mean up in the order for Uribe? I'm still not sure why in the world we'd put Rowand in the 3rd spot against righties. At this point, the whole offense is just in a state of disarray. And yeah, I'm sure he meant higher in the order for Uribe. Honestly, I would look to shake things up and things would go like this: LF-Podsednik SS-Uribe 2B-Iguchi 1B-Konerko DH-Everett RF-Dye CF-Rowand(Probably one of the biggest declines from last year to this year) C-Pierzynski 3B-Crede Uribe is hot and we should see what Iguchi could do. Uribe's hits usually are opposite field and he looks like he's found a great swing. Iguchi would probably be better as a freeswinger. Let him get on base and move runners over as a 3 hole hitter.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:04 PM) Vince Young is not an NFL QB. Leinart is not very highly regarded among all NFL scouts, as some think he's a product of the USC offense. Vince Young most definately is an NFL QB. He has as much if not more poise than Orton. The guy is a double threat. Great arm strength and accuracy is supposed to be his weakness, but even that is not as bad as Vick's. Young is a gamechanger who adds a different dimension to his team. He's most definately an NFL QB. I could understand if you don't like the running QB mold, but Young will be a stud. Leinart would be really good running a pro-style offense. At first, I thought he simply was a product of his system, but there's a reason that if he came out this past year he would've been the #1 pick in the NFL. The right scouts obviously think highly of him.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) Yes it does. We still have a dominating starting rotation and solid bullpen. If that's a dominating Starting Rotation, we're sure as hell in trouble.

This team doesn't need O-Lineman. They have enough already. Garza is really good at plowing guys to make holes for the run game. It seems that our team need to gel together better as a unit for the run blocking scheme. We don't need to waste a pick on that though. It needs offensive skilled position players. Give me a stud WR or TE or QB. Get Vince Young, Leinart or Cook if there a way to get either of them.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:59 PM) Here's the thing, after tonight, the first six batters in their lineup will have a batting average right at or above our leading hitter. And every single one of them has a better slugging percentage. The Indians have a good ability to win games two ways, we for the most part can win games only on the strength of our pitching. And that strength doesn't look so strong anymore.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) And the Sox are playing .500 since August and the Indians have benn very good. What the f*** is your point? The still aren't in the lead, and still do not have control of the AL Central let alone the AL Wild card. Sheesh, my ignore lists grows more and more everyday with these obnoxious pessimists whom would rather be correct than see the Sox win. Give it a rest. No one said they rather see the Sox struggle. Well except for that one guy who said he rather not have us make the playoffs. We hate being right as well. You also have to understand that the pessimists have every right to be pessimistic as the optimists have to be optimistic. It swings both ways pal. It's bulls*** how everyone was making threads basically insulting teams that weren't even done yet with a good month and a half to go(some more than that).

10-0 and they're not even trying against a team we struggled against. 5.5 games, here we come. One way trip to Choke City. All aboard?!!

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:49 PM) I thought I was told not to worry, the Indians would cool off? They've now won 19 of their last 22 games. Don't worry, they'll cool off. They have too.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:48 PM) This is comical. We're in deep trouble unless this club finds its balls and reverts to its winning ways of September. Look at Cleveland--taking extra bases, having fun, hitting at all fields and not missing meatballs. Sounds like a certain team we knew from a few months ago. The Red Sox?