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He'll probably sign with Miami or PHX, but supposedly Detroit is going after him too.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Aug 11, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) really. hmm, I wonder what he could do against a real offense like the Sox. lol Perfect Game with 24 K's while the other 3 outs are popouts by Joe Crede.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) That's still not the point. It is demeaning and insensitive. I understand that. I understand both sides and I know the general public won't so it would look very hypocritical.

QUOTE(forrestg @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) If this a rumor " A trade can be made for a player if he's on the major league 25 or 40 man roster only if both players have made cleared waivers. ROgowski is still on our 40 man roster that means he will have to go through waivers to be traded which i don't thnk will happen because he will be claimed by some other team with a worse record than Cinci. Young is not on the 40 man roster so if there will be a trade it will not be ROGO going there needs to be another minor leaguer to be sent to the reds. Possible, I don't know anymore. I think the cell would become more exciting than wrigley, Yankee stadium and Fenway park combined if Griffey comes and is effective for the stretch and the playoffs. Honel or Hernandez(our only decent C prospect) are guys being talked about in place of Rogo.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:17 PM) Yup. Having a Gold Glove means everything. I mean, Derek Jeter has at least one Gold Glove -- I think several -- and that CERTAINLY means he's better than a guy like Juan Uribe defensively. Right? GMAFB. Mark Kotsay and Aaron Rowand are the two best defensive CFers currently playing in the AL, and if neither of them wins it, it will be a f***ing sham. Did I say it does? No, so get off my f***ing back.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:23 AM) Maybe you don't find it offensive, and that's good for you. However, many Latinos do, as this surfaced a few years back when a newspaper actually publish quotes by a Latino player by spelling it phonetically. If memory serves correctly, the player may have been Sosa. Anyway, the s*** did hit the fan. However, my main point is that we have a double standard in here as to what is allowed by the posters and what will get them jumping down your throat for being 'insensitive'. I don't find it offensive either and I'm latino and I know tons of latinos who don't find it offensive, young and old.

QUOTE(wsox08 @ Aug 16, 2005 -> 12:14 AM) The sox don't lose because of the fans... Got that right.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) Here's to hoping that you go back to the Cubs board where you belong. Never was part of a Cubs board and never will be. It's funny to laugh about your lack of knowledge on me. QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:31 PM) because he's not an ace Statement made no sense whatsoever. Not even as a joke. QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Our 3Bman is so underrated. And why do you think that?

Hawk was over the top tonight and wrong. I honeslty hope Mariotti rips him a new one. Mariotti has actually been supportive of the White Sox these past few weeks. He also said stupid s*** about where would Griffey play again too. Here's hoping that you're gone Hawk.

QUOTE(WhiteSox311 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) no i think its if your a major leaguer then you cant be a ptbnl....but since rogo is a minor leaguer that works out jus spiffy Nope, it's anyone on the 40 man roster because that question was asked specifically in regards to the Griffey situation.

No, but I want it to. As far as your idea Dam8610, I heard I think on ESPN that it wouldn't be able to happen because a PTBNL can't be a part of the 40 man roster. This team needs him, but it won't happen.

Already a thread on this, but I disagree on him knowing his stuff. Lots of times he pulled stuff out of his ass. He came across as just a casual fan. He'd say a lot of stuff out of his ass without looking up stats.

QUOTE(marsh @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:41 PM) I just got back from a bar watching the game. I'm not surprised that we lost given the lineup tonite, but two things that bothered me. One, the shoddy ass camera work that led me to believe konerko hit a two run homerun. Two, crede should have knocked mauer into next week on the play at home. He had zero chance to slide around him. He should have put his chin down and went right thru him. Safe or out a message should have been sent right there. 2 Herniated Discs. I'd like to see you with 2 herniated discs and plow over my nephew and you could tell me if it won't give you a one way ticket to the hospital.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:52 PM) We have got to lead the majors in fewest guys thrown out at home. Our outfielders have been simply awful at throwing guys out at home, and there's been plenty of plays where a good throw would have got the runner. What are you talking about?? According to Hawk, we have one of the best defensive OF's in the leagueeee. QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:55 PM) The bottom line is if you have a lineup with Timo Perez leading off, you're not going to score many runs. As aggressive as KW has been over his tenure, he really overestimated "chemistry" this season, and really is sitting on a team that if they make the playoffs will more than likely get ousted very quickly. The offense is pathetic. Think about it. If the pitching wasn't spectacular in NY they would have been swept. I agree strongly. I see a 1 and done for this team. Let's just hope we can make it there crawling.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Yeah, you also agreed with a troll but that's cool too. My stance on Rowand defensively is well documented, the guy will win a GG sometime in the next 3 years, I've watched every game this year plus last year and a lot of them in person. He gets amazing jumps on the ball and has above average closing speed. I don't want to see him diving all over the place in the outfield because a lot of the time it means you got a s*** jump or totally misjudged a ball. Rowand gets to a lot of balls and makes them look easy that others would be diving for. He also has an above average arm but with average to below average accuracy, which is really something he has to work on. I don't slurp Sox players simply because they play for the Sox, hell I don't even like that many players on the team at this point in time. I have seen Rowand play a lot of CF over the past two seasons along with a little RF last year, he's made amazing strides and is only going to get better. I don't doubt that he can be one, but he has some way to still go. He needs to get a more accurate arm and it wouldn't hurt if his arm was a little stronger.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Rowand needs to throw better in order to win a Gold Glove. If you look at guys like Hunter and Edmonds in CF, they have incredibly accurate arms in the outfield. Rowand's arm has been disappointing this season. Very true.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:48 PM) I still say the play that showed how this team played tonight happened earlier. Crede has a close play at the plate, he should of plowed over the catcher. That would of energized our team more than anything. Not only does it show the twins we can play hard, but it shows that we are the new badass on the block. But crede slows down as he gets to the plate, then tries some around move and is tagged out by 3 feet. If he plowed over Mauer its a closer play and gives us a chance to score. That to me, was a big tell in this game. Crede has 2 herniated discs. He's still doing better than Blum. He has no business trying to plow over anybody. I'm not excusing his piss poor hitting, but would you rather see Blum or Crede at 3b? I say Crede.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:44 PM) Timo. Is. Trash. PK made a huge baserunning mistake. Conteras wasn't good. Just ugly Contreras was good enough to win with a halfway decent offense. His career ERA is somewhere between 4 and 5. You should expect that type of performance from Count. Plus the fact that Dye could've saved a run by gunning down a guy at home with a decent throw he's capable of, Count pitched pretty good today.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:18 PM) I'm a diehard Sox fan, but I'm also a baseball "expert". I'll say this (and I'm sure I'll be bashed): I have absolutely no clue how the Sox are 12 games up on the Indians, and 15 on the Twins. It's one of the most pleasant surprises I've ever had in sports, because this is not a great Sox team we're talking about. I 2nd that. Prepare for the flamers to come out.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) HA! Ha what? I didn't say I wanted A-Row out of the lineup or out of CF. He's very solid in the OF, but he is not a gold glover IMHO. He's made nice plays for 3 games against the Yanks. He doesn't do that type of stuff every game which seperates good defensive OF's from GG'ers.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:14 PM) KGJ can't get here any sooner. Pitiful tonight. What are you talking about? We're the first place team in the league, blah blah blah, etc.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:15 PM) Hey man im with you but you just overloaded my brain thinking about that one. I am also not denying this team is playing like s*** since I have been saying it even when they do win. I see "I love this f***ing team" being posted so damn much and I don't see why. They do need to get their s*** straight. I agree strongly.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:11 PM) Oh god, please this is horrible. Lets take it one game at a time. How is it horrible? Did that not happen? It's horrible how so many people are blinded by the fast start and won't just admit s*** is going wrong with this team.

QUOTE(ottawa_sox @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) If I'm making out tomorrow's lineup, this is what it looks like: Rowand CF Iguchi 2B Everett DH Konerko 1B Dye RF AJ C Anderson LF Crede 3B Uribe SS Unfortunately I think I saw that Timo has good numbers against Radke. :headshake I'd go with something similar.

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) I'll take em. SHould be a fun pitching match up to watch. How is it fun when you know our offense can't even score runs on Kyle Loshe??