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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 06:57 PM) How about this we can change the adage... Great pitching can beat great hitting....but medicore pitching can shut down the sox. I mean when we struggle to score against the yankees and their stud pitching staff, we have problems with studs like Joel Pinero, Josh Towers and the rest of the Cy Young staff we have been facing this month. Maybe we can hope that our staff completely shuts down the oppo in the playoffs to give us a chance. Took the words out of my mouth. It's not only good pitching, it's mediocre to horrible pitching shutting us down.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) Right, this one game disproves that age old adage. Hey isn't it true if you call up a guy after Sept 1 vs. before Sept. 1, it doesn't count as a year against their service time? Does anyone think that maybe that's why Brian Anderson isn't up here yet? Any takers? It's been several games. Outside of 1 game against this team, the pitching hasn't been so stellar against this team. As far as Sept1 callups, I think if you call up someone prior, you start their clock. After Sept 1, I don't think time is taken away.

QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) "Ace" You're right. We have no ace. Hopefully they'll just call the game instead of letting this onslaught continue. We would've just gotten a meaningless run in the 9th. End this game so we won't have to be put through s***. So much for good pitching beating good hitting.

Game over, flip flip flip...

It's so sad. Their weakest hitter would be our best hitter.

Okay now I'm really scared for our World Series lives. Two best guys going to the bump and they both lose. Our offense isn't giving us anything tonight. Just horrible.

Overrated.

Both are good. 2nd one is great.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) Haha....STILL ....IU, UI, KU > USC Those 3 teams are all on TV more than USC will ever be. I don't think I've ever seen a USC game on TV. I know I won't minus a couple games on CBS and the Pac-10 Tourny. I agree IU, UI, & KU are all better, but this is Brandon Rush we're talking about. I don't see him going to Illinois. It's a shame because he's a talented player. If he goes to KU, he'll be out faster than JR Giddens was. IU, I don't know about. If Mike Davis were to be fired after the season though, he probably would transfer out in a jiffy.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:41 PM) If you read the article, USC is not in his top 3. I read it, but it seems that he would go there. Why? Because it's not that hard of a school to get into and I think they play in the Pac-10 which is a major conference. That means TV time for him(especially with Tim Floyd there) and a better shot to get his name out there to NBA scouts. Wherever he goes, it can't be hard for him academically, else he'll fall faster than Imari Sawyer.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) I wouldn't pay 12000 bucks more for it. In fact I woudln't pay 3000 more for it which is about what it costs now to get a hybrid. Financially it doesn't make sense cause unless you drive a total assload, its going to take way too long to ever reclaim the savings. ^^What he said.

I see him going to a Kansas or USC. Anyway, I heard the guy is as dumb as bricks and that's why Oklahoma didn't want him anymore. Academically I heard he probably wouldn't have made it at Illinois either.

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) I really don't think the Borchard to Young comparison is as far off as you make it out to be. In case you don't remember, Borchard was our number one rated prospect for a long time, and was considered a Can't Miss type of guy. Yep. It's not that far off. Young isn't even considered our best prospect. He's viewed as a guy with some of the most potential in the organization, but it's not even a sure thing he's going to reach it.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 02:52 PM) That's fair. But it's f***tarded the argument that is trying to be presented that Buehrle's not an ace. If Buehrle's not an ace, no pitcher in baseball is an ace. He's not. True aces include, Peavy, Santana, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, Oswalt, Clemens, Schmidt(when healthy), Johnson(when healthy), Schilling(when healthy), Garland, Livan Hernandez, Colon, Harden. Those guys are aces. They're all great pitchers and have no problems taking out elite teams. It's all the same for them. For Buehrle it's not. QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) BUT HE LOST TO THE RED SOX AND THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!! And A's 3 times IIRC, and Minny. QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) I know you're just copying what nite's saying, but I don't know why or what's his reasoning to bring the Yankees into this. The last times Buehrle saw the Yanks was in April of 2004. He split those games FWIW. And he got smacked around in one of those games giving up something like 7 or 8 runs in the first 2 innings.

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 03:22 PM) OK let's hear it folks. What odds would you lay that the Sox get him. For or against the trade, what do you think? I say the odds are 60-40 the KW lands him. SFF Odds 1-100000. Not good at all IMHO. I'm all for the trade though. I want it to happen, but I know I'm getting my hopes up for nothing.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) I think those guys aren't on the 40 man so they don't have to clear... is that right guys?? Rogo is. Basically that was my idea though. Give them Young, PTBNL and a lower tier prospect and after the season, give them Rogo.

I think he was telling the truth. I don't think he'll be traded though.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/...t=.jsp&c_id=cin http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/cont...813griffey.html

QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 12:47 PM) he's had a bad month and a half, period, no matter who he's played. But i'ms ure you'll say the same thing in like 5 other threads today too No I'll be discussing how Jon Garland has become the real ace of this team. Not being defeated by elite teams and finally has found out how to deal with pressure situations. Garland > Buehrle. I don't care who flames me either.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) FWIW, the Score's George Offman is reporting that Griffey Jr. cleared waivers. I doubt we get him. I want him here more than anyone, but Kenny won't give me Christmas in August.

QUOTE(GBlum27 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) Well done. You gotta give JA some credit though, the man knows defense and he drafts decently to solidly. I'll give him credit for the Azumah extension way back when and for his later round selections but he's atrocious in the first round minus Tommie Harris.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 04:08 AM) That kid is probably a legend among his classmates. A Legend for f***ing up a good thing by my watch. I'd punk the kid for doing something that stupid.

QUOTE(GBlum27 @ Aug 13, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) 3 examples...go Quasim Mitchell Bryan Robinson R.W. McQuarters

I'll go with Hutch. He was pretty decent last year with no run game and a horrible O-Line. Imagine what he could do with a good running game and O-Line and a nice WR.

Bears always win meaningless games at the end for "pride." This year will be no different. Even if they did have the worst record, they'd probably do a #1 for the #12 & a 3rd rounder. Then they'll say they could get a decent QB at that position(a bum like Cade McNown) and fill another whole(another Mike Haynes type). That's the Bears MO. I told people too that they should've either drafted Suggs or Leftwich(my preference) and they f'd that up. Just like they f'd up their chances for Culpepper. Why? Because the Bears front office has turned into a laughingstock in the league. If you're a mediocre to bad player, you'll probably get an extension from Angelo. It was funny watching Ditka saying that the Bears need to cut their losses because Quasim Mitchell can't block the left side at all. And then he went on to saying, "If I were the coach, he wouldn't be on this team, that's for sure." He ripped him more, but I just remember those two parts in particular.