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QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) not sure what has been said on this board in the past 1.5 hours, but i can tell you from what i read before those 1.5 hours that this thread is a crock of s***. those 1.5 hours i spent listening to the radio in the car, and on am1000 not even one single mentino of this during their updates. 1 measly caller called in about burnett, but didnt say anyhting about a trade being in place. In addition 1 score update on 670 said that the white sox could be working on a trade for lowell and burnett, but that was about the extent of it. the way people on here post they make it sound like it was reported that the deal was pretty much done and that only a few minor details had to be worked out. I figured that. Everyone makes it seem like it's 95% done. Realistically, it seems like Baltimore got further down the road with the Burnett deal than us. I fully expect him to be traded there if Nevin doesn't accept the deal.

Haha. Didn't he have a game winning hit or something with them?

Wagner is off the block. The White Sox would only trade PK for Thome and that won't be happening, I guarentee. I see no deal, even with the Marlins happening.

Honestly, I don't see it happening. Especially with Burnett saying he won't resign. F' him.

Gload even though he should be with this team. I'd take him over PK.

It seems as if the Marlins fans are enamored with Anderson. They are willing to give up Eric Reed for him. Is Eric Reed any good?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) Hmmmm, uuuuuum, no. Damon is not a run producer. Varitek cannot be counted on as a consistent bat. Nixon, haha, sure. Renteria has been up and down. Mueller, yeah, sure. I hate the Red Sox as much as anyone, but them not having anyone outside of Ortiz or Manny is just flat out dumb.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 12:36 PM) Anyone else think that KW may spin-off Lowell in another deal? I really don't see the need for him. Maybe the Marlins are saying the Burnett deal is contingent on the Sox taking him. Just a thought. Two Words, One Player: Alfonso Soriano

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) Did Mike North report that we are after Lyle Overbay? If so who told him this? I hate North and he seems to make s*** up. My buddy told me that North said this and I am just trying to confirm i. I don't think we are after him. If we were, that would be f'n great, but the whole "chemistry" comes into play. The White Sox don't want to get rid of too many pieces. Frankly, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat.

Don't know if this has been posted yet. via rotoworld.

QUOTE(thelatinoheat_30 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:37 AM) *he was saying that the sox are recruiting burnett by the compliments they are giving him and levine seemed to think the sox will get him eventually. *the interesting part is that he said the sox might again consider using contreras as the closer if they do get burnett. i dunno about that tho cause if he comes into a 1-run games, allows a double, he is so easy to steal off of. if that guy takes third base, and w/ contreras's high amount of wild pitches, i don't think it's a great idea. plus wouldn't it take him longer to warm up since he's used to starting? *silvy said he thinks a bigger need is a bullpen arm(which i agree with), esp. w/ hermanson's back issues and marte's inconsistency. levine countered by saying that every team has A and B relievers. because the sox are in so many tight games, ozzie has to use his A guys a lot. the way levine saw it was if you have 4 starters(the 4th being burnett) that can go 7 or 8, you reduce the number of relievers you use. cause since el duque and contreras usually go 6, you gotta use 3 or 4. i'd still say another bullpen arm, like a guardado, would be better, esp. considering burnett's injury past. *just another note, i was reading a recap of yesterday's marlins game and i found a quote from jack mckeon that caught my attention: http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/news_story.asp?ID=131351 i don't know if i'm making too much out of it, but what does mckeon mean by he didn't think anything was bothering burnett? *also another quote from felipe alou referring to burnett I think you're reading too much into the McKeon quote. He's talking about he's doing good with all the trade rumors going around.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:42 AM) Red Sox fans in chicago=Cubs fans in 2003 nuff said. So how many fans does that leave after we kick their ass in the playoffs?

I'm up for getting any of those 4 guys. Just Git R Done Kenny!!!

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 08:17 AM) Marte's problems are not the lingering arm problems. Its his mechanics. He had the same exact problem last year. He short arms the fastball rushing the delivery too much and the ball sails. This is why he broke Chavez's hand last year. Its why he doesnt feel comfortable going against lefties and gets deep into counts. When he follows through on his fastball its a crisp 94-95mph with movement in on righties away from lefties. When he short arms it, it sails into lefties and high and away. Its a Rick Ankiel type pitch. If you watch his meatballs, its always when he slows down his delivery a bit, and takes it down to 91 without any movement. He aims it at that point. But I agree when Hawk starts to do a number on someone, HE GONE!!!!! Perfect Post. I have felt this way for some time. He shorts arm a lot nowadays and that's why he is less effective and that's why he has bad control. He doesn't follow through on his pitches at all and that's a problem.

4 million isn't too bad as worst case scenario at all. Will it cost us a player? We have to see, but people act as if 10 million is deferred per each year through 2025. I'd certainly get him.

Don't forget the fact that Thomas and Dye were gone from the series.

Oh yeah, I noticed on Thursday. They had orgasms every time the ball was pitched to one of their hitters. I seriously would've killed half of them by myself if I had a weapon.

Stupid piece of s*** writers. Go eat some clam chowda with your tawnic and shut the f up. I hope we face Boston in the playoffs so we could sweep the s*** out of them, then I could e-mail this writer back with his own article.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) It's debatable. We'll see. Let's wait till his career is finished and all the numbers are in. Very True. But at his current numbers, I would say he is.

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:26 PM) I hear alot of talk about getting Griffey, but my question is where do you put him? The only way I can see taking him on is if we find a way to ship Konerko and having him play first base. Sure, Frank's out, but IMO Everett is a better option at DH than Griffey. I would put Griffey at CF, Rowand to RF, Dye to 1B.

QUOTE(AirScott @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) hate to sound pessimistic, but I think those sellouts were mainly the Red Sox bandwagon, er, I mean Red Sox Nation. I think that has a big thing to do with it. Don't matter though since we got the Yanks coming to town and Minny who everyone is going to go to. Hopefully they don't fill half our ballpark though.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) Nothing new to report? Same ol? I have been gone for a bit and havent hear anything after or during the game. Same 'ol. My personal feeling after the first hour of hearing this was that it wasn't going to happen. Anyways, I want Griffey.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:20 PM) He is not a future hall-of-famer. No way in hell. I'm sorry but Nomar was hitting in the .100's this year. Not exactly hall of fame material. Wasn't someone on our team hitting .200 at the beginning of the year. I could understand if he played the whole year, but he hasn't. I like the latest trade you proposed to FLA. Does FLA like it though?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 06:31 PM) I'll say this much ... If we weren't driving toward a possible World Series, there's no way I'd BMac for Burnett. But we are, so you to go for the brass ring when it comes around. I agree.

Okay, this whole deferred contract thing. Do you guys know how much he'll make a year in deferred cash?