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A really dumb thread. And yes, I do realize I'm contributing to it, but seriously. PK has been a problem for some time. I've not only said this before today's game, I've said it for a while. For a "big bat" he's f***ing terrible.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) The scary thing is that I really think that KW believes this. I know. *proceeds to cry*

SOme crazy numbers for the month of July: HITTING has cooled off too…. Team OPS is down to .717 in July ... JULY OPS …. WHO’S HOT: Crede .848 WHO’S NOT: Thomas .798, Konerko .775, Everett .687, Rownd .660, Iguchi .645 Pierzynski .545, Uribe .524 This is before the series started with the BoSox.

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) There are 2 players in the AL that would be on my team before anybody else: Aaron Rowand Darrin Erstad Are you high? No Manny Ramirez? No Ortiz? No Buehrle? No Vlad?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) Sorry, the name stays the same. Yours just doesn't get the point across well enough, plus it's not grammatically correct. And sorry again, but I've been sick of PK for longer. That is my distinction. I know it's not gramatically correct. I spelled pussy the way Ozzie would. "Paulie is a Pussy Posse". There, is that better? Anyway, he's still a pussy. Put me in your club, cas I hate PK.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 10:05 PM) If Paulie had any nuts he would have ran into the catcher like Hunter did to our guy last year. He must not have wanted to score that bad. I was thinking the same thing. PK is a pretty big guy. Why didn't he just run over Mirabelli?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) It's even worse when they predict trading a player to a team with a star player at that position already. For example, PK is getting traded to the Reds. First off, this proposal has PK going to the Padres. Secondly, Sean Casey is far from a star player in Cincy. We don't like him much anymore.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) No offense, but please make this stop. Can we just group together all personal opinions into one thread? You're right, no offense. That's why I'm picking Ken Griffey Jr.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) Yes Yep, I agree with you there as well.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) *Ahem*JOINMYCLUB*Ahem* Can you change the name to the "Paulie's is a Poosy Posee"?? I've been sick of PK for the longest. Get his ass of this team quick.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:32 PM) If KW resigns Konerko for any amount of money I would be upset. He is a rally killer and is a one dimensional pull monkey. Lyle Overbay would be something to consider. The sad thing is we have our big three to shut down the other teams. All they need is anyone who can spot a fastball on the outside corner. Heck, all they need is someone who could throw outside period.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:27 PM) San Diego will not want Konerko. They won't be able to trade Nevin. Apparently, Bruce Boche(sp?) is having dinner with Nevin to convince him to leave. They're going to bench him if he doesn't leave in favor of Xavier Nady I think it was. SD will take Konerko because they will look at his HR numbers. Trust me, they'd take PK for Lawrence.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) This is why Uribe is batting in the .230's. Even Bruuce Levine is talking about our bad pitch selection and we dont get on base. Maybe this will finally sink in with everyone. Our offense isnt very good. AJ Burnett would be nice and all. But we need Bats. Vizquell should be somone to target. Our pitching will not be the reason we falter. It will be our bats, just like in 2000. Yep. Perfect post.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) I'd trade Anderson, Sweeney and Owens before I'd trade Chris Young. Fine, Anderson, Sweeney or Owens instead of Young.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:22 PM) Frank needs to come back healthy for one thing. Carl's just not the man to stabilize the offense as it's clear Pauly can't handle that. If any move is made to upgrade the offense, it better be for Uribe. He flat out sucks... Good thing is Uribe is a 9 hitter. Konerko is depended on as our #4 hitter. That's a problem.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) We're not trading PK, that I will guarantee you. How many times do you see a team with a 10 game lead trade their marquee offensive player? That's the problem. PK is seen as our offensive leader. He's not any type of leader for this team. Everett has better numbers IMHO than PK. QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) Ugh. I fail to see how that improves the Sox. Better timely hitting. Go look at PK's stats with RISP and you'll see how it improves us. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:19 PM) DO NOT TRADE CHRIS YOUNG. HE'S JUST ABOUT THE ONLY UNTOUCHABLE WE HAVE. I don't want Griffey, he'll be on the payroll until 2025 and can tear his hamstring at any time. Chris Young seems like the odd man out for the future. We already have Anderson and Sweeney. You have to trade one of them because you at least still have Pods and Rowand. Griffey is better than PK. That's a fact.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) So if our Sox win tomorrow do you think Bosox fans start ending their teams playoff chances?? I mean that'd be a split maybe they can't play with the big boys either. I don't know, maybe the Red Sox should start selling if they lose tomorrow. Crap, what is that?? They're 9.5 games worse then our Sox and 10.5 worse if they lose tomorrow. s***, they can't play with the big boys, they're done. Like it was said earlier in the year against the Angels. When you split at home, that's a like a loss. They came into our own home and beat the "best team" in baseball twice already. For those interested in Griffey, go look at the Inside Beat forum for the "New Idea" thread.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:10 PM) So you're saying you don't think we can beat them in low scoring game at the Cell? We couldn't beat Wade Miller in a low scoring game at the Cell.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) I love XBOX trades. It's not a video game trade. Damn, why dismiss a trade so quickly without even giving it some real insight.

QUOTE(Big Hurtin @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Gimme an S, Gimme an O, Gimme an X, GO SOX. Rah rah sis boom bah. Everybody's counting their chickens well before they're hatched. This team has to show me they have the intestinal fortitude to play with the big boys. I, for one, am not convinced. I feel the same way. They still haven't convinced me they could play with the big boys. With that August schedule, that could be a problem.

Well basically here it goes. Trade BMac, Chris Young(place Contreras in here if necessary), Timo/Willie for AJ Burnett Flip AJ to Cincinnatti for Ken Griffey Jr. Trade Paul Konerko to San Diego for Brian Lawrence(or stick a lower level prospect in there and try for Adam Eaton) Why such crazy moves? Well, PK is the ultimate rally killer. Bases could be loaded and 1 out and he'll GDP. 2 outs with a man on 2nd and 3rd, and he'll K. Frankly we're sick of PK. For a power hitter, he really sucks. He's becoming what Sammy Sosa was for the Cubs last year. He'll give you the opposite of what you need. Very untimely hitting. Griffey would solidify the middle of the order. Put him behind or ahead of Frank. He doesn't only hit for HR's, but also likes to hit the ball period. We'll need someone like that in the playoffs because PK can't get that done. CF-Podsednik 2B-Iguchi CF-Griffey Jr. DH-Thomas 1B-Dye RF-Rowand C-Pierzynski 3B-Crede SS-Uribe Now why move PK? Because that little b**** would complain being demoted. So get rid of him. Plus everyone wants another SP. Padres surely would do PK for Lawrence since they are losing a 1B and if anything else, they could flip PK for someone else. Lawrence would give us a decent #5. SP: Buehrle Garcia Garland Contreras Lawrence We keep our depth intact and don't lose any MR pitching.

QUOTE(Yossarian @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) The Cell is called Coors Field East by some. It seems that when the weather warms up the ball really flies out of there. I heard that with the redesign of the park it would be hard to move the plate or the fences more than a few feet but I say do it. If you want to play Ozzie ball then let the park play to your strengths. Nope. The longball has benefitted us the most. Without it, this team would be averaging 0.68 runs at the Cell. That's not much of hyperbole either. Corpseball is officially back in season.

QUOTE(Yossarian @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 03:34 PM) How many of our "prospects" have really panned out in recent years. I don't know much about the Padre's farm system, but all things being equal I'd say this is probably a good move for them. Peavy and Oliver Perez come to mind right away.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) s***. I'll join it anyways. I was at the game when Crede hit that 3 Run bomb against Detoilet. You still have to wear the Avvy of my choice if you lose. But win or lose I'll join Crede's Crew. Excellent.