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QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 11:47 PM) Do the Reds want to get rid of him, or do the fans? 95% of White Sox fans never want see Timo get another AB(/become starting RFer in Minnesota), but KW and Guillen and anyone who is anyone in that organization apparently wants to keep him. Both really.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) The market seems so poor that I don't really know what kind of move we could make that could be described as "going for the kill". KGJr, Wagner, Guardado. Just a couple of names that come to mind.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) I'd be lying if I said I haven't looked ahead to potential matchups in the playoffs or crap like that but do I think this race is locked up? Nope, until that magic number hits 0 the race is not over and I will never count the Twins out of anything. Bingo. I am still afraid of the Twins right now.

I don't know. Stephen A. Smith was pretty good as a fill in for Jim Rome.

Rowand for Ken Griffey Jr. I said it. Flame away if you want.

I'm not so much worried about his defense as I am his offense.

Damn good read.

There's better options. I don't know if he's the first guy I would look at.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 01:35 PM) They do not like him yet they picked up his 2006 option this past off-season? Go to a Reds board. I'm a Reds fan, I know some things about them. They would like to get rid of Casey.

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) Again, where are the Reds going to put Paul? Back to 3B? I don't think so. Well the Reds do not like Casey and plan on letting him go at the end of the season. Casey would probably ride the bench the rest of the way.

This was originally my idea(PK for KGF And Dye to 1B) and everyone shot it down so damn quickly. Funny how things change.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Since there are a lot of people in the game thread b****ing about him I'd thought I'd start this thread. Yes, he didn't pitch a good game tonight but he threw strikes. Jose today was getting ahead of hitters for the most part and he just got beat by Detroits hitters. He got hit hard today but he didn't beat himself. You will rarely see Jose give up a lot of runs when he's throwing strikes, this is probably the first game all year when he's pitched bad that the opposition beat him and he didn't beat himself. Basically what I'm trying to say is I'm not worried about this outing but rather kind of encouraged, this is two straight outings where he's had great control, if he throws strikes like he has the past two games he'll be a very good starting pitcher for us the rest of the year. Just wanted to get that out in the open and see how everyone else feels or I should say everyone who hasn't given up on JC yet. I strongly agree. Detroit just beat him tonight. He was K'ing guys and getting ahead in the count. Despite getting roughed up, I'd say it was a good outing.

Happy Birthday.

QUOTE(SS Gload @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 05:14 PM) Yesterday was my first sox game since 2002. First of all, let me say that the organization has done a spectacular job on the renovations. The new roof looks great and so does the outside of the stadium. As usual, the sight lines were excellent. We had tickets on the 500 level right behind home plate. The atmosphere was great mainly because of the 37,000 fans in attendance. The game started slowly for the sox, but the bottom of the seventh was a magical moment, it gave me chills actually seeing Joe Crede hit like that. What A Game! I look forward to going to thursday's game against boston, and hopefully seeing another white sox victory. This has been a great start to my chicago vacation. Always good to hear stories. Glad you had a good time.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 05:36 PM) Let me insert something you forgot. A MAJOR difference between the two teams is the pitching. I disagre that a lot of our pitchers are having "career" years. Mark and Freddy are solid vets who in line with their career numbers. Jon is at an age when the majority of pitchers mature to their talents. In 2000, our pitching got HURT. We went into the postseason with no healthy starters. Our opening game was pitched by Jim "5 Inning" Parque. Our offense in 2000 was all or nothing, just like the last few years. They were too reliant on the 3-run homer. This year is different. I don't think people realize that enough. Faster, Smarter, Stellar Defense... They are completely two different teams. Just comparing batting averages does not paint a complete picture. Optimism is called for...not pessimism I don't understand that statement AT ALL. Our optimism is INCREDIBLY justified. After all the games I've gone too, the amazing comebacks I've witnessed, different heroes every night...Yeah...it's OK to think this is our year! Go ahead...refer to my opinion and enthusiasm like I am a Cub fan. I refuse NOT to enjoy this magical season. I agree. Our starting rotation isn't made up of guys having career years IMHO. Our defense is good. Our offense could be better. That's the only thing that scares me. That was the real problem in the playoffs. Our offense sucked.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) Ok, it looks like they changed things. In their recent press release, it says this: Friggin' Awesome. Now George Lopez is a celebrity. I'd like to see him visit Ozzie in the White Sox clubhouse.

More money for the team so I don't care. As long as they're not crazy drunks. You could always educate some fans. Like I always say, you become a fan by becoming a bandwagoner first.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) The Sox website says: U.S. Cellular Field Capacity – 40,615 I thought it was around 38,000 since they cut the upper deck off, but... Thanks. I wonder if we'll ever have that place packed to maximum capacity then. I mean, the playoffs for sure, but in the regular season when was the last time it was that completely filled when we weren't facing the Cubs or Yanks?

Okay quick question. I've seen numbers all over the place(different numbers) saying that was a sellout at the Cell. Can anyone give me an exact number of what a sellout really is? In other words, what's the maximum capacity?

Don't forget that Donyell Marshall agreed to terms with Cleveland.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) If people want to do the wave in between innings fine. Not during the game please. This is the exact kind of thing why a lot of sox fans are sox fans and not cub fans. If you want a circus their is one 8 miles north from here. The Cubs sell hot dogs and more food in general. Maybe we should stop selling food at the games. If you want it, you could go 8 miles north of the cell. That's how silly it sounds. I hate when people think of things as, "oh the Cubs do that, so we shouldn't do that" Stop having the Cubs in mind.

I have a feeling both the Yanks and Red Sox are making the playoffs. I agree with what Harold said. It could be a Seattle Mariners type season. I'm hoping it isn't though. I'm just a pessimist, so don't mind me.

I've been hearing from all over(an example is BBTN) that the Phillies won't deal him, Utley or Abreu at the deadline. They think Wagner is a huge part of the team and that he's a difference between wins and losses. Gammons also said that he expects Wagner to resign with Philly.

I like the wave. It gives the casual fan something to do and let's me know there is a sellout or near sellout at the ballpark. It's also fun to do during the dull moments of games like when Duque is pitching. Saying whoever does the wave isn't a fan of baseball is just flat out wrong. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) I was there as well and his defense was spectacular. Looked spectacular on tv as well.