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QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 27, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) I wouldnt mind that if Burnett resigned and the "lower tier guy" was Eric Reed. He is compared to Juan Pierre with more speed right now. He just has to work more on his hitting You have a better chance of acquiring the actual Juan Pierre.

Already being discussed in the major trade thread, but I would give up BMac, Shingo or Jizzcan and Everett for those two.

Oh yeah, Gammons shot down the Burnett to Baltimore rumor saying it would make no sense whatsoever for Baltimore because he thought Cabrera would end up becoming the better pitcher. Anyway, I would give up BMac, Everett, and Sweeney. I would ask for Burnett and a lower tier guy.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 27, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) We could send them Podsednik. Everett?

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 27, 2005 -> 03:23 PM) http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3720056 KW better be fooling us or start getting interested.

I like the idea of trading for Burnett. The reason he's gone 200IP only once is because of that major arm injury he had when he started coming on. He has electric stuff and when he's on, no one can touch him. He'd be my first choice for a SP honestly. Second option is none other than Javier Vazquez. He's a great pitcher and is showing that he probably was tired in the 2nd half of the season last year with the Yankees. Has overpowering stuff. You could probably get away with just trading BMac and a low level prospect for him also because of his salary and Arizona having the need for lower priced guys.

If they would accept Beckett in there instead of Burnett, I would do it if I'm Florida. Burnett has too electric of stuff to trade.

Excuse me for being, for the lack of a better term, dumb, but what is IT?

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Jun 27, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) I agree...not a fan of the heat...although, I was in the UD, about 3 rows from the top, 1st base side and it was cool up there...no kidding. Wasn't even sweating, and I sweat a lot. It was teh first time I was glad to be sitting up there. That's the advantage of the Upper Deck(especially the back rows. You have the high winds swirling in back of you so you get a nice breeze. I am a fan of colder weather as well for the reason that the threadmaker stated.

This is smart if they shut him down until after the AS break. He gets proper rest and will be there for the stretch run and probably 2 starts against the Twinkies. Smart, Smart, Smart.

I thought there was always talk of him loving Seattle and that he wouldn't want to leave and abandon ship if it was his choice. That's what I remember reading somewhere and some people thought(at least Mariners' fans) thought that he would be a rental for the White Sox and come right back and sign a long term deal with Seattle.

No game is meaningless in the season my friend until home field advantage is determined. This game counts just like all the rest. I'm not pissed we split with the Cubs, I'm pissed we split with a mediocre ballclub. Everyone outside of Lee and Ramirez have major flaws as hitters and we didn't exploit them. Our hitters, career wise at least, show that we should've scored many more runs than we did.

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It was bad out there. AJ was swinging at everything right on his wrists and anything low and in. Frank and PK both tried to tie the game once Willie got on and failed miserably. The worst part is, I even found out after the first 2 innings what Prior was throwing and when and our guys were still clueless to what was going to be thrown. That's what pissed me off the most.

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Jun 26, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) el conde and el duque are just not getting it done anymore; they've fallen back to Earth after amazing starts. For all we know, Garland will do the same before too long; I'm certainly hoping he won't, but let's assume worst-case scenario. We need 3-4 aces to both lock up the division and go deep into the playoffs. Buerhle and Garcia are passable in that role; Garland might be, but let's not count on him just We need Schmidt, badly. You have to be the most pessimistic person I've ever known. Buehrle and Garcia are passable?? Despite yesterday's debacle, Contreras is still at the top of the AL for OBA. We don't need Schmidt badly. He would be a luxury at this point, not a necessity.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 26, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) He should use his fastball more with location and less forkballs and only with 2 strikes. Basically what I was saying yesterday. Fastball and slider and power pitches until he has 2 strikes. Then a forkball low.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 26, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) who knows, maybe they pick up a star in free agency They are way over the cap. They're probably going to cut Allan Houston and save a good amount of change, but they'll still be over the cap with that. The most they could offer is the MLE and stars don't settle for MLE.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 12:33 PM) Lidge doesn't just miss bats, he misses great bats. He could blow away A-rod and Sheffield. I'd mortgage the farm for him. I think I would too. I think all Count and El Duque is perform decent enough to win every 4th or 5th day which they have done better than what most thought in ST. Playoff rotation would probably be Buehrle, Garcia, Garland. I think Count and El Duque would be excellent out of the bullpen.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) You are wrong. Contreras deserves THE SAME strike zone as Maddux. What is this, segregation? Seperate, but equal strike zones? If it is a strike for one guy, it damn well should be a strike for the other guy. Experience should not factor into how 'big' your strike zone is. Does the rule book say the strike zone is from point A to point B, unless your name is Maddux, Pedro or Santana, then you can add 4 inches to every side? I don't think so. I agree. I think it's BS how people think certain player should receive calls. It was pretty obvious from the first couple of pitches that Contreras through that the K Zone was going to be a damn small one for Contreras. I'm fine with that, but Maddux was hitting the same corners Contreras was and he was getting that called a K. It was blatantly obvious that the K zone was much bigger for Maddux than it was for Contreras. As for his other pitches. His power pitches are good enough to set up his forkball. Hell, if they were thrown for first pitch strikes(and he actually gets calls) he would flat out dominate.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 08:42 PM) If the Yankees make the playoffs, it will be entirely because they outscored people. They do not have the pitching to make the playoffs, barring a major trade or two. The old adage is that good pitching beats good hitting. I would much rather face the Yankees with our pitching staff than Boston, who has some pitching of their own. Exactly. If they become red hot, it's because their offense and the lack of pitching in their division minus Boston. I'm confident we could beat the Yanks with our pitching. Boston, however, has the offense and the pitching. I'm not so confident in beating them if it came down to a 3 game series(assuming we play them in the 1st round).

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 25, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) Whats is the hitting with RISP and 2 outs. The clutch stat Jim. There is a huge difference there. Crede is .167 and Randa is .321. How many times has that happened?

I still think it will be Ohio State. It will be between OSU and WF.

I'm hoping the Yanks miss the playoffs. Actually, I rather have Boston miss. Boston's offense is starting to pick up and with Schilling coming back, they're a dangerous team to face in the playoffs.

Only if we won today. Anyway, I hope they get swept and we win tommorow. We have to win these games now and sweep the Tigers since we have to play in Oakland next weekend.