S720

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 10:59 PM) not really. the whole team was killing during the NL stretch. now when we need a big hitter Frank is on fire and Thome is cold. kinda sucks we ran the best hitter in Sox history out of town. just my opinion though (obviously) Please remember Frank was NO WHERE in the first half. If you took Thome out and replaced him with Frank in the first half, forget about it. Even with Frank's current hot bat, it will not be enough for us to catch up.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) Yeah, and I don't mean to accuse KW of messing up this team. Personally, I think he improved the team during the offseason. However, some of our luck from last year is gone, and a bigger KW mistake was not improving our LF play at the deadline and his lack of a 4th outfielder who could play LF and CF. Fathom, this is not meant to be an argument, just a thought. To me, the main reason we are in this situation right now is not because of the inconsistent play of our LF or CF. The main reason is our the disappointment of our STARTING PITCHERS. If all of them pitch like they did last year, we would be leading the division too far in the first half for the Tigers or the Twins to catch up with us. With 16 games left, we are really pressing in trying to catch up with them, and in turn, I believe, that truly messes up our hitting. Let's hope our hitting will turn around QUICKLY.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) i thought getting Thome and sending Frank out was a great move i was wrong No, you are not wrong. If we had Frank in the first half instead of Thome, we will NEVER in this race. We would be too far off to contend. Remember Thome was a MONSTER in the first half. He really carried our team before the AS break. Having Thome's left bat balances our lineup; unfortunately, it has not helped our team tonight!

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 10:48 PM) I think Thome's bad wrist changed that whole AB. He has no bat speed anymore, and he can't pull that inside pitch with any authority. You know what guys? Please let me know where I can find the magic that we had in 2005? It just seems that the magic we had last year is gradually fading away! Come on White Sox! Bring back the magic.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 15, 2006 -> 09:54 PM) Seriously though do you have any intelligent thoughts to add to this thread? If not I suggest you leave. Kalapse, you are out of line here man. Tell me if this is your board. Are you implying that anyone who does not see your way is not welcomed here? STOP insulting others because of their different views from yours. Do you really think your thoughts have always been intelligent?

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) UPDATE Frank Thomas .280, 36, 98 17 games remaining Jim Thome .291, 39, 99 16 games remaining Thanks for the update Steve. I don't want to go through the 7 pages, but has anyone mentioned about the LEFT-HANDED hitter factor that we sorely needed. Thome makes our hitting lineup much more balanced. This doesn't mean that I am dissing Frank. I wish Frank can retire as a White Sox.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 11:53 AM) Yes they will because they did it last year therefore they'll do it again this year. I mean this team has shown no consistency in the second half, have been shutdown by s***ty and good pitchers and have not been able to beat the bad teams or good teams for that matter. It seems the Jenks is now bad atleast for the time being, MacDougal was nowhere to be found yesterday when he most definately should have been in the game so we have to think that he's hurt. Thornton is great, Cotts sucks, Riske is mediocre at best and McCarthy has been brutal of late so the Sox now have 1 reliable arm in the bullpen in Thornton. The starting pitching has been better of late, of course Garcia still sucks and Buehrle is incredibly inconsistent so they do seem to have 3 solid starting pitchers going right now, so that's a positive. Podsednik is possibly the worst player in baseball but continues to play nearly everyday in LF. Iguchi looks tired though is still producing. Jermaine has looked pretty brutal of late as well as tired. Thome's power numbers have dipped though he's still getting on base. Konerko is comming up with some hits but still has a knack for the clutch double play as seen last night. Pierzynki is in all out homerun mode but at times has found himself cutting down on his swing with 2 strikes and going for a basehit instead, as for his defense, well he's been pretty disappointing this year with both pitch calling, transfering the from glove hand to throwing hand, blocking balls in the dirt and throwing out baserunners. Crede is still awesome offensively and defense but has some major back concerns after another small flareup last night. Rob Mackowiak, a top 3 worst defensively centerfielder continues to get starts out there despite being a lesser offensive and defensive option than his platoon mate since the break. Juan Uribe has been just lazy in the field this year, is a pathetic baserunner and with his 0-3 night yesterday his OBP is now .259 only Angel Berroa is worse than Juan Uribe at getting on base amongst starting shortstops in all of baseball. I'm not so sure where a lot of the optimism regarding this team is even comming from. The starting pitching comes around FINALLY so the bats and bullpen decide to suck, that does not instill much confidence. All of us know the team is going through such a TOUGH time right now. I don't believe the constant whining, complaining and crying will do any good for the team. What good is it to be constantly negative of the team? If we win the next two games, things will look much better, and I FEEL the wins in my bones. I tell you one thing. It was one hell of a ride FOR ME last year, and it has been a good ride for me this year. The majority of the teams in the league do not have what we have right now - the race to the finish line! Enjoy your baseball folks!

QUOTE(letsgoarow @ Sep 13, 2006 -> 10:50 AM) screw all you guys............we are not done yet b****es we will clinch in minn after the second game The hell with pessimism. I SECOND you on this. We WILL get ìnto the playoff. PERIOD.

QUOTE(beautox @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) MB definatly doesn't have "it" What the hell happened to Mark Buerhle? His pitching is so mediocre, and without power, he will get killed! It's kind of sad to see Buerhle in this current stage!

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Sep 12, 2006 -> 11:06 AM) Let's get a win. The White Sox will win every game the rest of the season, let's go. Change that for you.

Don't you feel it guys? If our offense clicked in Boston, we would have led the WC right now. I believe that our team is REALLY heating up. Our starting pitchers have been pitching pretty well outside of Buerhle. The Tigers and the Twins are feeling our heavy breathing on the back of their necks. If we and the Twins win tomorrow game, I believe the Tigers will have the best chance to collapse among the three teams.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) Damn, why do they have to make me work for this s***? You're telling me. I thought I was going to go to sleep real early tonight!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:30 PM) Thorty picks up the save. On a sidenote, was Jenks actually up? I wasn't paying attention when they were panning to the pen but the only times I looked I swear I only saw Thorty up. Both of them were throwing in the bullpen.

MacDougal THE MPV TONIGHT GAME. No question about it!

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:20 PM) Ok, Reverend S720. Man, this Reverend is scared STIFF, but we WILL win.

Okay, gentlemen. Let's get ready for some heart-wrenching, nail-biting, a-lot-of-rolaids ride. We WILL overcome this turbulence and WIN.

QUOTE(SoxnGiants @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) I stay with McDougal is the 9th - assuming Jenks is not 100%, which I assume he is not. If Jenks is healthy, he's in. The thing is we don't know how Jenks really feels. He mentioned after yesterday game, he was feeling healthy. I don't think even Ozzie know for certain. I'll leave MacDougal in. If someone gets a hit, bring in Thornton.

Way to go MacDougal. Should we stay with MacDougal in the 9th? Answer right now please!

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:07 PM) I'm not going to lie...it's been enjoyable being on the same wave length with you tonight. It won't last long...so I thought I'd salute you before we disagree again. Fathom, I enjoy your posts as much as you have enjoyed mine! One thing we will always have in common - We are the World Champions fans.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) And the middle of our order go 1-2-3. I Seriously hope we hang onto this game, if only for my mental health Don't say things like that man. We WILL win this game.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 09:02 PM) I sincerely hope Guillen isn't considering bringing Jenks out tonight. Give him rest. It's obvious something is wrong. I noticed MacDougal is warming as well. He should be closing the game, not pitching in the 8th. Have Thornton pitch then. MacDougal the 8th, then Thornton the 9th. Here we go guys. Strap it up and get ready for a turbulent ride! Damn, I hate this!

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Yep...it's amazing that you think we've had two games in the last two weeks where we were up by like 7 or 8, and the opposition ended up getting the tying run to the plate. That also means like you've said our non-relievers STINK big time. Which also means if and when we get in the postseason, we will never see them again until next year.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Yep...it's amazing that you think we've had two games in the last two weeks where we were up by like 7 or 8, and the opposition ended up getting the tying run to the plate. Fathom, my stomach is not feeling well at all. It was doing perfectly fine about 15 minutes ago. Man, gotta gut another one out!

QUOTE(S720 @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 08:56 PM) Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up and get ready for another roller-coaster ride. Why can't we win any game the easy way??? We just have to make every game exciting and tight! Now I am so happy that Ozzie didn't replace Dye.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 9, 2006 -> 08:54 PM) It wasn't a mop-up situation. Ladies and gentlemen, buckle up and get ready for another roller-coaster ride. Why can't we win any game the easy way??? We just have to make every game exciting and tight!