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QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:28 PM) the sox have an uncanny ability to make bad pitchers look good Man, don't they know Hammel has an ERA of 6.5. Light him up, please!!!

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 08:46 PM) Another base hit for Rob. Well he hasn't screwed up in CF yet and is 2 for 2, so ok. To those of you who have angrily complained about Ozzie putting Rob in CF, please send your apology. I guess there's a reason why we always manage our White Sox team via virtualization.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 20, 2006 -> 04:38 PM) THE THREE REASONS WHY WE STRUGGLE THIS YEAR: 1. Buehrle 2. Javy 3. Freddy MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT! You can blame Ozzie or the bullpen all you want, but it is because of those three starting pitchers that we are in this situation. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. Put Javy aside, if Buehrle and Freddy pitch the way they did last year, we would be LEADING the division right now. I guess noone is perfect. Kenny made a mistake on Javy, but hey nothing is perfect. We still have a GREAT chance to catch the Tigers and win the division. We are only 5 1/2 games back. If we sweep them again in this coming series or even win 2 out of 3, we would be right there. In the course of the remaining games, we will surpass the Twins.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 13, 2006 -> 08:27 PM) http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines Gimme a freaking break Leyland. We've torched this guy 3 times now, the worst of which was at your place, he has tired arm, and yet we can't have hit him hard, but rather we knew what was coming?? Please, lemme guess we got lucky to sweep your great team too right? If my recollection has not failed me, I seem to remember there are two pitchers on our team that also used "tipping pitches" as excuse - Contreras last year and Beurhle this year. Verlander's tired arm still put out 97mph heat. I am not sure the reason why you are writing this!

Like I've told you. I am sensing a crack on Verlander's pitching. Yes Thome!!!

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 11, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) No bashing of Cora for sending him? I'm pleasantly surprised And yea, everyone looks slow No way. If Cora didn't send Cintron, everyone would jump on him. That's the right call to send Cintron home.

Man, that's painful! I'm detecting a little crack on Verlander's pitching. I have a hunch we will get him next inning.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 11, 2006 -> 09:01 AM) First off, that Wild Card World Series crap is annoying. And we do need to sweep Detroit to have any shot at the division, but we must take 2/3, or else we're completely screwed. If I can be assured of the possibility of getting into the playoff to obtain your so-called "Wild Card World Series Crap", I will take it in a heartbeat. Get into the playoff first, either as the divisional leader or the wild card, then we'll talk about how crappy the 2006 World Series trophy is going to be.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) wow, i thought that was gone Almost had a heart attack!

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 11:34 PM) It's amazing how BMac can do no wrong, even when he does wrong. His ERA is over 4 and pretty much everyone still acts like the sun shines out of his arse. He certainly hasn't pitched like an ace-to-be this season. There's lots of trouble in the rotation, but BMac doesn't fill me with confidence that he'd fix it. As I've previously stated, many people are still in love with the GAME BMAC won against the Boston Red Sox last year. I personally feel BMAC is a little overrated by quite a few people on this board.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Well...this just has a terrible vibe right now. Jeter murders pitchers like Thornton, as he'll just take the outside fastball to right center. Fathom, would you stop being so fishing pessimistic!

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 10, 2006 -> 10:49 PM) And right in time for a terrible situation. Cotts should be in mop-up duty only now...and that's been obvious for two weeks. If Ozzie brings in McCarthy every fishing game, BMAC will lose his arm at the end of the season. We HAVE to use other relievers as well. Why don't you tell our starting pitchers not to fish up, that way we don't need to use our relievers every fishing game!

QUOTE(Allsox @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 10:28 PM) Ozzie's failure to pull Garland cost his own team the win today. Plain and simple. Why don't you whiners blame every fishing thing on Ozzie? How old are you guys? Can't believe there are so many kids on this forum!

QUOTE(Harry&JimmyRocked @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 09:09 PM) so when they are 8 games out with 7 to play, is that the acceptable time? And since you think it is over, why don't you just quit watching! Stop posting and stop being such a whiner.

QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Aug 9, 2006 -> 08:43 PM) You make it sound like we haven't won a game in 2 weeks. It's August 9th and we are a half game up on the wildcard, half-assed effort? You're right last night was half-assed when our team battled their asses off to come back a couple of times and finally win it in the 11th. To those weak hearts, please get off the wagon. If you can't take the tension, DON'T!

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) Reaching?? IF we lose tonight, it would be our 7th or 8th loss on the year due exclusively to a bad play in CF by Mack in a close game. Shouldn't Ozzie get the message here that you can't put him out there? Plus, Brian hits righties better than lefties anyways. Stick this in your mind. Anderson CAN NOT play 162 games. There will be games when he NEEDs to be replaced, and if we end up losing those games, so be it! And stop blaming every fishing thing on Ozzie.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:56 PM) Now Ozzie brings in Jenks in a NSS in the middle of an inning. He's aware that Jenks sucked coming in this type of spot BEFORE his recent struggles right?? Why wouldn't Jenks start this inning if he's coming in?? *shakes head* It's just so childish and absurd to see that every fishing move Ozzie makes is being fishing criticized!

Get into the playoff, then we'll talk. To me, it's a three-team race now with one lost out in the end - the Red Sox, White Sox and Yankees. With the way the Tigers are coming on and playing so great under the 2006 Manager of the Year, it's hopeless for our White Sox to catch with them. However, if and when we'll get in, we will be the scariest team for opponents to face.

You want to know why? I'll tell you why! Please be honest. It's not his solid offense or average defense. It's his wife, Lisa Dergan, that all of us are jealous of him. This is the cause of him being underrated.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) Now all we need is a Sox win and losses by Boston and NY. It wouldn't hurt us terribly should the Tigers also lose tonight.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 09:38 PM) I call bullspiff. It was the right move to go to Thorton, Matt just had a bad night. I bet you if he left MacDougal in there, people would have called for Matt, saying Ozzie is mismanaging this game. I gaurentee it. When the hell are people going to realize hindsight has always been 20/20? Hell, let's blame every fishing thing on Ozzie, if it makes people feel happy!

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 10:28 AM) Broadway is not a weak arm pitcher. He throws in the low 90's with good secondary pitches. He has great control. He has a great pitcher's body as well. Broadway is a good bet to be in the majors for 10 years as a #3 type pitcher. Garza and Carillo both have 1-2 type stuff, but are more injury prone as we have seen already with Carillo. Garza may be stud and then may get injured, you never know. The Sox went the safe way. How come 30 teams missed Mike Piazza 50+ times? It just happens that way. Also, McCulloch is not a weak armed pitcher either. He throws in the low 90's and can reach as high as 94. He may be a finesse type pitcher, but he certainly does not have a weak arm like Buehrle. Think Brad Radke who can throw the ball hard, but knows when to dial it up and when to bring it down a little for better control. Thank you so much for clearing this matter out for me. I certainly feel much better now with our young pitchers in the minor league. Honestly, no green.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 09:31 AM) He's now officially calling out for KW for not taking bold steps before the trade deadline to ensure another White Sox playoff team. Now I'm more than willing to listen to critics of the Sox, but I'm curious whom he thinks we were supposed to pick up. -There were no starters available -Soriano? So we supposedly were offering Pods but not McCarthy for Soriano; how would Soriano solve our starting pitcher issue? -He mentions how the NY Yankees made some big trades but as far as I know we're not hurting anywhere else in the lineup except STARTING PITCHERS -He refers to Vazquez as five-and-dive (fair enough) but to Buehrle as basically a worn-out has been, which I think is more than a bit premature (guess we'll find out tonight) The only point he did make was that if Mac was too valuable to trade away with Pods for Soriano, then why is not Mac starting? I'll give him that. But no I will not be starting another "Move Vasquez to the bullpen!" thread. Bottom line: Mariotti is has just put a plate, utensils and a nice placemat in front of himself, for eating crow if this lineup (which he heralded as brilliant last winter) finally clicks. What else do you think he is going to say, especially he has been brewing inside all these hate and anger at the White Sox team while being on "reluctant" vacation! Negativism always reproduces negativism...

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:50 AM) Indeed. If we miss the playoffs, it will probably be in part due to several games lost (with a few more to come!) due to Ozzie putting Mack in CF even though he can't play out there. Mack should ONLY be out there once every couple weeks to give BA a break, end of story. Mack in the corners of the OF is very solid and he's given us quality at bats with a .300/.400 split or so the last couple months after that slow start. So you don't think Buerhle's atrocious five games in July do not cost us the playoff, where he was 0-5 with an ERA ABOVE 11! And I did not even mention how terribly Vazquez and Garcia have been pitching. You can micro-criticize Ozzie all you want, but our chances to get into the playoff lie with our starting pitchers. Make no mistake about it!

It seems as if year after year we've been picking weak-armed pitchers in the draft while other teams are loading up with powerful arms! Why did we skip over Matt Garza or Cesar Carrillo to select Broadway? Matt and Cesar are in AAA, while our very owned is in AA! Once again, in this past 2006 draft, again we selected one more weak-armed pitcher in Kyle McCulloch. Can someone please show me the light to the reason why our scouting team is so afraid of selecting powerful-armed pitchers?