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White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert
bmags replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
“Baty's minor-league results have begun to wane somewhat, meaning that he may very well need a change of scenery away from the Big Apple.” Oh is that what that means -
When people said “GRF” they knew what they meant but now that’d be RF which …is confusing
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I haven’t watched a game…but what a wonderful thing that Lonzo is playing basketball
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Roki Sasaki Free Agency - White Sox have a presentation
bmags replied to Timmy U's topic in Pale Hose Talk
"I'm coming to the US now because I can't wait to compete against the best players in the world. But also I've decided to join the white sox because I want to do it in a place no one is watching" Makes perfect sense to me let's gooooooo -
great deal. So much of the mlb is more fun, hope sox join the party.
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I'm not being a hater on it, I think there is genuinely some more optimism on what he provides rather than being scared about his k-rate/hit tool because another 'better' org already validated his tools by selecting him. Had WE selected him instead of Smith, I think there would have been a lot more "this is a terrible fit for our org"
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The good news is the red sox can survive getting fleeced. The white sox, well, you can't kill us we're already dead.
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The weiderer piece was good this morning. There was a line on the Eberflus hire about like, "who else was going to hire Eberflus if you didn't?" and alluded to the idea that colts were gonna fire him. I kept thinking how if I was George McCaskey, sincere in wanting to do the right thing but a complete moron, what a great way to operate to try to break out of the skid. Rather than just trying to be woo'd by consultants and your own interviews (remember, you are a moron), consistently hold the fire to these guys with a "why aren't we doing the thing that everyone else seems to want?". It ain't foolproof, in many ways that was just the uber dan snyder in the 2000s. And with Eberflus year, you'd argue that you'd end up with Daboll. But - you wouldn't end up with eberflus! For the sox, I'd say getz is at least, in hiring his manager, entertaining "I should try to get the guys that it seems other people like, because we are incapable of knowing who is good ourselves". It just might work.
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well, we got an insane Sale year so it wouldn't really bump too much in any direction. I don't know that an all white sox team makes more playoffs than the one we had. That said, if you do the fantasy version of 2021 you'd have Tatis - 6.8 fWAR Semien - 6 fWAR Anderson - 4.3 fWAR Robert - 3.5 fWAR Abreu - 2.8 fWAR Narvaez - 2.8 fWAR Eduardo Escobar - 2.5 fWAR 28.9 with some negatives contrasting it. But pitchers would be led by Rodon (5fWAR). No dunning to support it.
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I wonder how we'd feel about Braden Montgomery right now had we drafted him.
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"You used to tell me 2GB ram was what was needed, now you are saying 8GB? sounds like scam. Never satisfied!"
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That was so infuriating because I think few of us even expected the sox to get up to 190M in 2021 and the % of payroll going to those guys was still fine. INstead they spent more on players who on the aggregate did less. Oh well.
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That was so infuriating because I think few of us even expected the sox to get up to 190M in 2021 and the % of payroll going to those guys was still fine. INstead they spent more on players who on the aggregate did less. Oh well.
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This is probably a thread for caulfield. I couldn't sleep (because I'm old now) and started thinking about how I liked the trade and some of our prospects but how little of it matters if we can't find and develop position players through our organic channels (draft, intl budget, waivers, rule 5, stuff you get regardless of anything). Then I started thinking about to prove that point, had we just kept all our star players whom we acquired that way, it would be an incredible rotation. Then I started to think twice, and came up with this scenario to even SEE if that was true and realized there was a fun alt-world. Our Alt-world: We have a still annoying owner who puts strong guard rails on how we can operate. He loves the yankees from when he grew up in the bronx as a kid, but not the winning as much as just having the same players every year. He runs the white sox with the following rules: he spends, but ONLY on retaining talent. And he'll spend big. BUT - he does not believe in trades. He got swindled on a baseball card trade at 11 and thinks its hogwash. Do we sign FA? I don't know i just want to see this team in this scenario. Starting Rotation: - Chris Sale (6.4 fWAR) - Garrett Crochet (4.7 fWAR) - Chris Bassitt (2.2 fWAR) - Carlos Rodon (1.7 fWAR) - Jose Quintana (I consider waiver acquisitions still organic) (1.0 fWAR) - Jonathan Cannon technically had more fWAR, but QUintana pitched 175 innings so I'm gonna keep that young whipper snapper on the backburner. If you are thinking What about Cease? Lopez? Montas? you need to re-read my long-ass paragraph about our fake owner that I came up with. So that is 16 fWAR. That'd be tied with Philadelphia for 3rd most WAR in the league in 2024 and second behind the Royals. Alright, now let's see what I got for lineups C - Carlos Perez (I'm gonna give him -1.0 fWAR for season?) 1B - Andrew Vaughn (-0.2 fWAR) 2B - I don't know what to do here, I feel like it's fair to say we'd have had a terrible Madrigal year but am going to give us 0.2 fWAR for Romy SS - Marcus Semien (4.2 fWAR) 3B - Jake Burger (I'm gonna remove -.4 fWAR for having to play him at 3rd, but he'll be a 1.0 fWAR guy) LF - Fernando Tatis Jr. (3.2 fWAR) CF - Luis Robert (0.5 fWAR) RF - Alex Call (1.2 fWAR) - gd did not realize Alex Call had a better year than Robert omfg DH - Ok we all know this would be a terrible Jose Abreu year, but I"m just gonna say we'd get 0 war here i'm assuming it'd be Sheets? Ok Total Position Player fWAR is a GENEROUS 9.1. That would have put us...25th. (LMAO we had -6.1 fwar on position players this year jesus christ) So 25.1 fWAR between pitching and hitting, not yet bullpen because that seems super hard. I'm just gonna give us 3.1 since that's middle of the pack. We did not have a dominant closer drafted I think? WHo knows. Anyway we'd still be the 10th worst team. I don't really remember anymore why I did this but the alex call thing alone was worth it. But...yeah you gotta...you gotta get more hitting. This whole "Develop pitchers to trade for hitters" thing isn't enough.
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hmm. I like aidan miller. Hope they were right. I like Braden Montgomery.
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White Sox asking for "top prospects" for Robert
bmags replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
my guy Gavin Sheets is in the middle of a 4 year career as a starting outfielder in this org. Jacob Gonzalez is gonna be a big leaguer* *white sox definition. -
I didn’t even know mlb network still existed
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Tight walk though, need strong defense to make it play too, and can’t have terrible splits. Jose just changed his approach and unlocked it, this guy not sure how much more strength he can pack on before he loses speed and becomes unplayable at 2B. Interesting player tho
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Coulda had two George’s. Damn
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We also just have no player that isn’t swinging three straight pitches.
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I remember 4-5 years ago I looked and 18-19% k rate in college that I could still find productive to good major leaguers. Hes really testing it at 20%, but I would say the game in college has changed a lot. Pitchers have been striking way more guys out, and I’d imagine the new technology plus pitching in college may have advanced it past the hitters. We’ll see if there is just a new top for acceptable k rates. I could see it being an obvious flaw we should have seen…or an obvious caveat that the NIL SEC + pitching development is just a new baseline
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Will be a case of an immovable object (Meidroths plate discipline) against an unstoppable force (white Sox orgs ability to diminish it)
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Well he rates all four as major leaguers of some sort. More about limiting the impact.
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Peak mlb pipeline 💩