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Disappointed they didn't include Benintendi though, the sox saving money was a big issue for me.

yeah. One - it's position player heavy. To do that, we didn't get the top 30 guys we'd hoped (though probably could have in more of a one-for-one way). I'd say this is the 'fan' market, but doesn't mean they scouted well here. I hope so. I was talking myself 100% into brewers deal, but this is a good amount of quality here. Not the biggest Braden montgomery guy, but do like that he has the same last name as Colson. Wouldn't mind exploring getting all montgomerys.

I love how DiPoto has kept alive the "major leaguer for major leaguer" deal type. Anyway "But some mlb execs think they aren't motivated to move because their asks are so high" are so boiler plate. I'd imagine always prompted with a "do you think they are even gonna move him?". God I can't wait until we are trying to acquire mlb talent again

I love how DiPoto has kept alive the "major leaguer for major leaguer" deal type. Anyway "But some mlb execs think they aren't motivated to move because their asks are so high" are so boiler plate. I'd imagine always prompted with a "do you think they are even gonna move him?". God I can't wait until we are trying to acquire mlb talent again

jesus if you are on a baseball message board enough that first word you'll assume is a typo for padres and then think there is a prospect named Parades (pronounced in a spanish-esque puh-rah-des") that you don't know. Took me a longtime to realize this is the red sox and that is about world series parades

I would be ok with this as well. It's buying very early but what is available for more mature talent is a lot of guys that are facing injury or rough years. Made, Pratt, Yophery/i Rodriguez are all pretty interesting, and a guy like Misiorowski is someone the sox should look at as "we can make this work" more than most orgs.

Jesus Made was 80 in BA's end of year update, not sure if that was mentioned.

yeah that's the dream right there. We trade for him and first write-up will be "he's slowing down a lot and probably moving toward a corner, but his power is no longer suggesting that's going to be easy "

The Sox should not be targeting any pitching. Even lower value hitting prospects are worth more to us that pitching. We will not be able to add enough through organic means, meanwhile pitching is apparently a free buffet to get.

You know we can call it prospect clutching but look how quickly they need to get a next wave. It depletes quick, padres are one of the few who have shown fast waves coming behind.

This market is wild. Well see what actually materializes. But whatever signs we have access to indicate a market sentiment where a) mid level pitchers are very expensive and no great top tier pitchers to sign b) there aren’t a lot of great pitchers on the trade market and yet Top position prospects are clearly valued way higher than whatever problems arise this year from having sub par pitching - even for contending teams. Teams would offer two top 15 pitching prospects before a single top 50 hitting prospect. Oh but how about these underperforming former top prospects? Would that interest you? Whatever happens next, the white Sox have to start developing and drafting and signing hitting because there is no trade market for it and no $$ avenue for this team to sign any.

I think your one example actually has a much better hit rate than most football guys. The browns have been in the playoffs in 2 of the last 4 seasons after an 18 year drought. He has been a part of a pretty respected front office that included kwesi adofo mensah who they recruited. "Who seems good" would be an underrated improvement for the bears. Who seems good applied to Lovie. Would have applied to Arians (would have actually gotten us Reid, he seemed pretty good). It probably did apply to Wanny, Fox, and Nagy. But it would have avoided Flus, would have avoided Jauron. That's about as good a hit rate as any football guy. Bears should try it imo.

If I have a guess with Poles somber attitude, he may have been trying to hit the right tone of respecting that a bunch of the coaches in there are likely gone after this year rather than showing confidence but it contrasted poorly. He should be licking his paws, his choice of coach absolutely wasted this year and quite frankly wasted a playoff year last year. It wasn't a good playoff year, but it would have easily been one without terrible collapses against browns/broncos/lions.

I unno, keep hearing we need a football guy to make decisions, etc. Poles had a lot more info than us on Shane Waldron. It was acceptable for us to be like "wow he made geno smith work". But then 10 minutes of our beat writers asking other beat writers and players about shane waldron set off major red flags. We didn't get to interview him, a football guy did. Bears fans saw flus and thought immediately "HITS is stupid and he's a longtime defensive coordinator who has held good not great defenses, pass. We'll take harbaugh or mcdaniel or flores or daboll (bad one)". They had more football insight than us. Maybe just a guy who is extremely vain and wants to tack to public opinion will in fact get it right because the public has so often been more right than the bears. I am really struggling to think of a time the bears zigged when fans wanted them to zag and they were found to be more savvy and insightful. Well, ok. Kyle Long. That's really it.

sounds like they nixed brown today and will just be poles/warren.

I know it didn't matter last year, but really hope some of these chiefs issues cause some losses and buffalo can get home field advantage. Incredibly impressed by Sean McDermott's work this year (and once again great job by beane in drafting and keeping that defense at a high level). It appears Beane did what Cincy could not, partly by putting it all on allen (who delivered) while delivering on defense for them.

I feel like the rapaport report is in a little bit of aggregation telephone. I feel like his point was to affirm that poles was not getting fired. Yes it is technically warrens search since he’d be signing off and part of the process, not sure he meant to imply Kevin is leading it

Just a disgusting hit on Trevor Lawrence in Jax.

I joke about it with my buddy, and dream about it, but man it seems hard to believe. Mainly just isn’t the front office mostly built by him? If he’s available it’d be the “Reid leaves Philly” moment part 2. And when that happened the bears were looking for a new coach and didn’t even call him.

Amazing our new insider has inside info on every nfl team

Johnson just honestly feels like when Shanahan was entering the HC search. Is he an obvious “leader of men” with his Hurley hats and mumbling? Was Belichek? Easier to lead when people know you are putting them in best position. That said - I think it’s incredibly impressive when coaches can win with subpar qb talent. Vrabel and now Bowles (and Johnson) didn’t make excuses, worked with who they had and built the whole team. Robert Schmitz tried to talk s%*# about vrabel without Arthur Smith, only to find his numbers were completely off. Titans talent never felt overwhelming aside from two to three blue chip talents (brown, Henry, Simmons) but won. If flus had last years titans he’d have been 1-15. I don’t really know that anyone has a great feel for hiring coaches except the packers. But if we can’t import their brains for this decision…I’m ok with either Johnson or Vrabel. Anyone else is a huge wild card. And neither is a guarantee. But I don’t mind bears missing on Nagy, and I won’t mind if it turns out Johnson is just Daboll 2.0. Still is the right decision or “roll of the dice” imo. Definitely possible I fall in love with brown but I hope not. Id love to get the first of the lions coaches and the raid of coaching talent from it.

It’s funny comparing Kwesi operate in MN compared to poles. He inherited an underperforming roster with star power, has honestly drafted pretty terribly, but nailed coaching and has been amazing in FA. Kwesi interviewed Harbaugh and KOC and chose KOC. Poles chooses to stick with the worst hiring org in sports top 3 and hires flus over Dan Quinn. They were both top finalists for bears GM position and feels like they are inverse of each other. Damn if this doesn’t show how important coaching is to success in nfl tho.

I’m gonna guess it includes the lions or some teams not associated as losers anymore.

Yeah I’d just keep pointing to the lions regime inherited Ragnow and Decker, then drafted Sewell year 1. That year they had st brown, much of that offensive line, Goff, swift, and tj hockenson. Anthony Lynn was the OC and their offense was terrible. Johnson takes over and their PPG goes from 19.1 under Lynn to 26.6 under Johnson and hasn’t looked back.

I never said draft BPA. Some years there are certain positions stacked with top talent, and others that are weak. 2023 TE class, for example. I think the teams that make sure to dive into those pools end up with better classes. I didn’t say it had to be with with any one pick. Your “no RBs until the fourth” was much more rigid.