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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:39 PM) Some of the same people here who laughed at the concerns over the lack of experience for Obama, are the same one hammering it home here. How can it be worse to be #2 and inexperienced, versus #1 and inexperienced??? Anyways, with the amount of advisors and cabinets and the like, experience is pretty overrated anymore. In this day and age, the President is pretty much a figurehead anyway. When the #1 is a soon-to-be-73 year old, cancer survivor with a medical history like 600 pages long for the last 10 years. Nonetheless, I find her much less experienced than Obama. She wasn't governor of Texas, she was governor for 1 and a 1/2 years of a tiny state in terms of population facing few of the problems that larger states face because of their population. Before that she was mayor of a relatively small town.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) I'm sure it took less than a month for someone to explain it to her. seriously, takes about ten minutes.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:13 PM) Quit with the damn thank yous. Obama did the same thing yesterday. Tell your supporters to shut the hell up. Haha, I felt the same way, I like the way Clinton handled it. "EVERYBODY SIT DOWN!" haha

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:10 PM) I think Gates is awesome, and reading history books lately has reinforced that belief. Infinitely better than the cranky old arrogant bastard he replaced. I don't even mind if Gates stays on for Obama, and from what I hear he'd be game for that too. Apparently back before Clinton took over he reauditioned.

QUOTE (Nokona @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) The selection of Governor Palin will likely make Hil rabid. Attack dog II will be fired up, ready to go You know once I got re-introduced to Biden I realized why he was such a great pick. I, like many others, hate hate hate that bankruptcy bill. However, as a VP, he's a great speaker, he's relateable, he has a great story, and can attack the republicans on foreign policy. Palin is from Alaska, a state even more whacked out in its politics than Texas, HUGE ties to Oil companies and she has a miny scandal going on. People are going to say "she's one McCain heart failure from president for being governor for two years of a state with like 10 people in it?" Really poor choice.

considering Bush's cabinet was one of the worst parts about him, I agree the cabinet is very important. Why I'm not worried about Obama's cabinet? He's surrounded himself with a hell of a campaign staff and picked a great VP, and frankly the Democrats have more exciting good names out there to choose from than McCain does. Who'll be in his cabinet? More Bush people? I wouldn't mind if Gates stayed but please no more of this crap. No more Mukasey.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:02 PM) Funny Digg Title: McCain's VP: Strong in the war on... polar bears Colbert will be in love with her.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) Palin Comes With Prepackaged Scandal I will say this. I read up on this a lot, and at the very least this guy deserved to get fired anyways. But if she did step in to push his firing that is not what I would want in the White house considering this U.S. attorney scandal. Too much of that B.S. the past 8 years.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 04:49 AM) I thought Obama went slightly over the top with his "doom and gloom" portrayal of the nation right now. However, it was better for him to be a bit too hardcore than a bit too soft, and that is why I expect him to get a big bounce from this speech. Do you know what attracts me to Obama and why I like him so much? It wasn't his line antagonizing McCain that he was ready to debate, it was his line about how politics don't make the man. Politics have gotten way too personal the past 8 years, with Rove marginalizing half of this country as unpatriotic. But the truth is I enjoy every poster on this board, alpha dog, mr genius, kap, so what if we disagree. There has been way too much emphasis that if you are x then you are unpatriotic or you are a fascist when that is not how we live. I'm hopeful in x years we can move to a much more central ground of understanding.

I love that poster. Aesthetically cool.

what is this poster?

That speech was everything he needed.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 02:09 AM) Written by professional speech writers. well, yeah. here we go.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 01:56 AM) Dick Durbin on to introduce Barack. Obama on soon. Should be interesting. Anyone catch Richardson? I missed it. You missed my favorite line yet. "While John McCain is spending hundreds of dollars on shoes, we can't afford to pay for his flip flops"

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 29, 2008 -> 02:43 AM) Barney Smith with a great line. it worked so well because he was so intense and nervous-looking, then he unleashes this great line and it was just super effective. Shame the networks didn't cover it.

I liked all the common people's speeches. They were funny.

he took al gore's challenge eh?

I don't believe these polls much.. BUt man, if they Repub's actually think seeing Bush and McCain on Monday will help...well, hehe.

John Kerry's speech was excellent and way better than the analysts talking about made up riffs that was covered were.

I relistened to that. I can see it in the drums.

boy I didn't realize that was it's path. Please, please weaken.

that photo is like an everlasting gobstopper for the democrats.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 27, 2008 -> 11:54 PM) They want big numbers for McCain's speech LOL, have they seen McCain speak? My friends

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 28, 2008 -> 12:34 AM) And with every attack will be followup with clips of his gushing praise and respect for McCain. Which is the real Joe Biden? Would Joe say anything to get elected? Even lie? So is he lying now, or then? He'll talk about the man's policies, not the man.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 27, 2008 -> 07:30 PM) I would agree that the stuff Ayers group did isn't nearly the same as modern terrorism, but it's still inexcuseable and awful and he still hasn't apologized for it. Alright so here's my last point. And this isn't intended as a "but your guy does it, too", but more of an explanation in why I don't think it matters. G. Gordon Liddy is friends with McCain. He took part in one of the darkest moments in White House history with ruthless abandon. To my knowledge from when I last heard him mention it, he hasn't apologized. Now he's an active participant in the political process as a radio host and commentator since he's calmed down from his craziness of the early-mid 90s. John McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy. Should I assume that John McCain then supports political corruption (aside from the Keating 5)? Does his friendship with Liddy raise questions to his judgment? Now, again, I don't think so, but I don't think so with Ayers too. John McCain was in Vietnam when this all happened, and probably gained his friendship with him after he became a million-selling author and political pundit. It certainly draws parallels between the two.