bmags

yeah it's a hilarious strategy that works so well.

They might've won round one and two, but keep on fightin' the good fight! http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/us/24mia...6YSlwC+e2sIDpHw Six Suspects Will Be Tried a Third Time in Sears Plot By CARMEN GENTILE Published: April 24, 2008 MIAMI — Federal prosecutors said Wednesday that they would try for a third time to convict six men accused of conspiring to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago and join the ranks of Al Qaeda. Judge Joan A. Lenard said the next trial would proceed in “the late fall or early winter.” In the previous trials, government lawyers contended that the men — Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Burson Augustine, Rotschild Augustine, Naudimar Herrera and Stanley G. Phanor — wanted to wage a “ground war” against American citizens and had pledged their loyalty for Islamic extremism to F.B.I. informants posing as members of Al Qaeda. Defense lawyers asserted that their clients had been goaded into making radical remarks and vows of allegiance by the informants. Testimony in the trials revealed that an F.B.I. search of the group’s headquarters in the Liberty City neighborhood of Miami yielded no weapons or evidence of preparation for a large-scale attack. In his appeal for a third trial, the prosecutor Richard Gregorie recalled how Mr. Batiste had been heard in taped conversations saying he “wanted to kill all the devils,” a reference to Americans, prosecutors say. “The United States has decided it is necessary to proceed one more time,” Mr. Gregorie said. At the first trial, which ended in December 2007, a seventh defendant, Lyglenson Lemorin, was acquitted, and the jury was unable to come to a unanimous decision about the remaining six. A second trial ended last week with jurors again unable to decide. On Tuesday, Mr. Herrera was released on $50,000 bond. Rotschild Augustine, an illegal immigrant, was denied bond. The other four had not filed applications for bond. Prof. Jonathan Turley of George Washington Law School, a critic of the Bush administration’s handling of terrorism-related cases, said that by seeking a new trial the government was hoping to justify “previous headlines” about evidence — including wiretaps and informant reports — presented by Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales after the suspects’ arrest in June 2006. “These are the types of prosecutors Las Vegas is built on,” Mr. Turley said. “They keep returning to the table with the same losing hand.”

still, i think 8 points will stick. I'm so sick of this dem. race.

white sox in lead "WERE GREAT" White sox lose lead "pathetic team right now" i wonder if anyone has watched baseball before in game threads.

wish this was yesterdays game!

big piece in the nytimes...anyone care to discuss it?

I was at the bar last night, crowded, TVs not really watched, when thome's highlight came on, half the bar goes, holy ****

some interesting comments from trib's swamp blog, after more Ayer's talk: " Hey, guess what, the world is not divided into terrorists and non-terrorists. Bill Ayers is a fantastic person to know. He is first of all, not a professor of English, but of Education, and secondly, at the University of Illinois at Chicago, not U of C. I'd proudly serve on a board with him, no matter what his past. His dedication and caring to helping teachers learn how to best value and teach children who get routinely shut out and left behind should be applauded, not ignored. Posted by: Melissa W | April 17, 2008 10:00 AM If anyone is actually bothering to read the comments on this non-issue, I figure I’d offer an opposing viewpoint to the shamelessly biased comments below. For the record, I’m not an Obama supporter, and I do not consider Mr. Ayers anything more than an acquaintance. But, I am a former CPS teacher who had Mr. Ayers speak in my classroom. Twice. Not because I support his actions with the Weather Underground, but because one of my coworkers knew him, he is very accessible and approachable, and he speaks with remarkable candor in discussing that time period. At least to my students, he absolutely admitted regret at the poor judgment he and his cohorts used in the WU. "

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 15, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) Didn't someone say in one of the other threads that this election would prove once and for all which side the media is on, or something like that? oh no they didn't, Doughnuts?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 14, 2008 -> 05:19 AM) Wasn't the use of torture one of the reasons we had to stop Hussein? It's easy to make that statement, but it then places us squarely with the rogue nations. I think I would rather be among the ethical nations that do not use torture. Does that also mean you would not complain when those same techniques were used on American soldiers? Since it would mean the US is rejecting the Geneva Conventions, changing US Laws, and most International Laws. And if it meant US forces were forced to shift through hundreds or thousands of false leads, that wouldn't be an issue? I agree.

So Warren Buffet doesn't give to charity then? Should I take that notion seriously? Because Al Gore hasn't given enough, all liberals don't give to charity?

I didn't know his dad played for the cubs.

Do they honestly think this "poor Hillary, look how she's misstreated" strategy is appealing? Americans hate whiners.

for my 2 cents, this is a bit ridiculous. Athomeboy's posts are obviously one sided that clinton sucks, but at least he's posting real, legitimate articles from legitimate sources. He isn't posting "Clinton is such a b****" or ridiculous articles about how she's a lesbian cokehead. It hasn't been ahb's posts that have started negative towns in this forum, so I can't imagine why we should tell him to cool it. Every poster has their gimmick, his is posting negative Clinton articles.

still, a ticket of a first time senator and a mayor of a city just one shot away from president would have the silly people still thinking experience is an issue worried even more.

well, after reading that I change my mind. This could be the greatest comedy of the last 15 years.

I have always felt Richardson would be great for his foreign policy skills and Hispanic pull. Others have brought to my attention maybe it would be wise to inquire on Bloomberg and hammer the heck out of the economy. I still think having someone so experienced like Richardson may quell some fears of Obama inexperience, even though I question how much it matters in reality.

you should really wait before you tell everyone, it ruins the guessing part.

term limits don't work, in my opinion.

I agree.

I don't believe China should be allowed to do anything on the world stage until they treat their people like all the other countries on the world stage.

I love the site. As for the tone shift, I don't know if it's just a negative shift as much as an 'incredulous' tone, if you will, by some of the posters. This "HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW RIGHT I AM" kind of posting is getting silly. Or back to the fields/crede debate, people acting completely shocked that anyone could like Joe Crede anymore, or people being completely shocked that anyone would want to get rid of Joe Crede anymore. I think since the games have been played it's gotten better, because I think some realized, 'oh, yeah, there's a reason I watch the games instead of simming the whole thing just to see the total runs scored over runs allowed'

How good must AJ feel getting walked around TWICE tonight...and how confident must Quentin feel after delivering both times. That was so cool when the bases were loaded the second time, and they switched the camera angle to behind the plate, and he blasts that triple. That was great.

let's not lose another game.

i saw Juan uribe go with the pitch today...something weird is in the water.