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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 10:31 AM) exactly. Lebron had a bunch of GOOD players in Cleveland. He never had the ALL STAR or SUPER STAR type players. Yes, he gets that now, but he's also going to get a bench full of players that probably aren't as good as what he had in Cleveland. Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, Shaq and Z have all been all-stars

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) How are Dumars and Kahn idiots? Granted Dumars hasn't had a couple of good seasons, but he built Detroit into a NBA Championship team. In a couple of seasons, Kahn's loaded up the Wolves with quite a few good young assets to say the least. What else could he have done to make Minny any better? I understand that Dumars has built championships and Kahn has done a little better lately but my point is that many people in the NBA will take on a contract like Deng's. Villanueva, Darko Milicic, just a couple of bad contracts that have been given out from these two. Another can be Jeff Bower, overpays pretty much everyone and looks to get rid of them the next year. Larry Bird has some very questionable moves. There is always a schmoe ready to take one on or give a contract to a player who ends up not contributing. Deng, whether someone hates him or not, CAN contribute with the money he is being paid.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 10:12 AM) Sorry but Isaiah Thomas isn't the GM of the Knicks anymore. you must have missed the word MANY, Joe Dumars, David Kahn, could go on for a while

QUOTE (hitlesswonder @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 09:35 AM) You are presuming they would be able to trade Deng. They couldn't get anyone to take him this year. Also, with the new CBA, Boozer's deal is also absolutely not movable. There are many idiots in the NBA, I am 100% positive. Deng is someone who can contribute although his contract is bad, where as someone like Stephon Marbury is definitely not movable (unless to someone really dumb) because his talent completely fell off

QUOTE (hitlesswonder @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 09:26 AM) That's true -- in fact, the harsh reality is that the Bulls have no chance to win a title in the next 10 years. If JR is true to his previously stated philosophy, he'll start selling off players soon. Noah will be the first to go, followed by Rose. Have fun with Boozer, because the Bulls philosophy dictates that Deng and Boozer have just cost the Bulls what young talent they have. I think we'll be seeing the NBA version of the white flag trade. I am 100% positive that if the Bulls needed extra money to give Noah and Derrick a raise, they would trade Deng

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:46 PM) If you had asked me, would I ever agree with Cleveland radio, I would have undoubtedly said, No I will never agree. But I agree entirely. Lebron could have been the chosen one. He could have won in NY, he could have won in NJ, he could have won in Cleveland. Thats how respected he was a player, that people thought he could have won everywhere. So he becomes a free agent and he has a chance to play for 1) his home town team, 2) to play for the team he loved as a kid and his idol played for, 3) to play in New York where he has an affection for and could have become the man in NY forever. Instead he chooses the Miami option, teaming up with Wade and Bosh, where Wade is the man. I expected more. Why? Because Lebron was just that good. I would watch Cavs games and root for them in playoffs because Lebron was the man. I just cant see myself rooting for Miami, Id rather root for the Lakers. Id never root for the Celtics haha Anyway, I think that Lebron is going to end up regretting this decision. He was unfortunately to young to understand the magnitude of what he was doing. well shame on you badger for not realizing the fraud that is LeFraud James That green is towards you not that actual statement, i hate him but wow he really shocked the world and showed everyone his true colors tonight.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:28 PM) I would bet you that they do in fact win 70 or more I really don't think so, it needs to be a team effort and it's only (now 4 of them), the Bulls were something special and I don't think we see that especially from the three amEGO's in Miami

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:26 PM) Man I am gettin tired of seeing people bash him for not "sticking" it out in Cleveland.. Gimme a break, he was there for seven years and they never put anything around him to get that team a ring.. I don't feel bad for them one bit.. Its absurd to sit here and say he should have stayed in Cleveland and tried to win championships there when he has no control over the roster and how their money is spent.. and secondly, if he would have signed with the Bulls no one would be saying anything about him right now.. but because he signed with Wade and Bosh hes some villain.. I don't get it.. and just to toss this out there, but the contract details aren't even done yet and LeBron himself has already said all three of them are going to be taking less money to make this thing work.. if all of them are only making 15 million next season that's still going to give them what, like 13 million to play with and fortify the roster? That team is gonna be fine, and I already expect them to win the title next year.. I don't think anyone is saying that Cleveland never gave him a chance, he just went on live TV to make an announcement that could've been made by Twitter or a phone call and was completely ridiculous, one of which was never made to the team that he called home for 7 years. It is just common courtesy but he has now proven to be a flake

let me get this right, LeDouche changed his tax address to a Chicago address, announcing his free agency plans outside of New York and has rented 6 cabanas at the W in South Beach to celebrate? Sounds like he's staying in Cleveland to me Source: my facebook status 4 hours ago

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:41 PM) It's stupid because NO big man would be as effective down low if you subtracted several inches from their height. So Bosh gets penalized because he can hit jumpers and handle the ball a bit? He's still WAY more dangerous down low than any small forward not named Lebron, and he rebounds just fine for the position. He's a power forward all the way. What is Charles Barkley was 6'1 instead of 6'4?

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) Agreed. Boozer is horrendous on defense, his help defense is as bad as it gets (watching him get constantly lost off the ball in the Lakers series down the stretch of games was infuriating) and his man to man D isn't exactly stellar either. http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/05/03/the-lake...decision-maker/ Not giving anything to Boozer because he is a pro and should know what to do when the best player on the planet has the ball, but that looks like some bad defensive coaching by the Jazz staff to me as well.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) I'll take Boozer over Amar'e, honestly. I think Amar'e has the name but Boozer has the better game

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 02:28 PM) He's going to take a 3 pointer, if he makes it he's going to the Knicks, if he misses he's going to the Bulls. How about he has to shoot the 3 after a very intense upper body workout

Can we just not use the word sources in this thread anymore? How about we just make a separate thread titled "My sources have said...." and fill in the blank

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) Deng is a 16-17 PER type player that averages somewhere around 17-6, Beasley is about a 16-17 PER player that averages around 15-6 in far fewer minutes. They're pretty damn comparable. Obviously Beasley's attitude is an issue, which I've mentioned, though Deng also gets hurt at a far higher rate. If you're using "future" and "potential" on the Bulls' side, then it doesn't really help your case a whole lot. Johnson also isn't really a "solid role player" either, he barely played. Mario Chalmers is easily a better role player than Johnson at this point, at least he can defend and hit 3's (though at a much better clip last year). The Heat and Bulls would both have basically the exact same amount of cap space if they didn't add another max player, giving them a basically equal chance to improve their roster. We're not talking about Lebron joining either team as clearly if he goes to either that gives that team an edge. Pat Riley has always said (openly) that whatever amount of points Beasley would score in a game, he ends up giving up on the defensive end

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:05 PM) And he's got great playoff numbers. I'm thinking people are just looking at this past year and the way Bosh has handled this whole thing as if he would be the centerpiece on any team, making people think he's top 5 or 10 in the league. NO DICE

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 12:03 PM) I don't, and I don't even like Boozer. Bosh has played in the East against inferior competition, sure they have different types of game, but Boozer is no slouch and has done it against the best competition in the West

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:47 AM) I don't really see how you can say that when the two best players in the equation are on the other side. Deng and Beasley are both talented forwards that most seem to want to give away for free, so they kind of cancel out. Does Noah's defense/rebounding make up ALL of the difference between the caliber of the two stars? Hard to say. I would say it depends on who else signs. If they Heat got Haywood or some other defensive center, then I'd say they're better than the Bulls since Noah is the only edge you can really argue that Chicago has right now. Why does everyone think Bosh is so much better than Boozer?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:40 AM) http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/ne...th-beach-201087 LOL, more smokescreens

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) Yes because getting Bosh would have netted them one of LeBron or Wade That really wasn't the question, and who is to say Boozer can't bring friend and former teammate LeBron?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:35 AM) As I said back on page 62, look ahead about 2 years. Chicago will be a contender due to the continued development of rose/noah/gibson. They've just added an all-star player and people don't think that's an improvement? You guys are nuts. Agreed, everyone has been b****ing that we have needed a low post player to compete and we have done that, and now it's not enough. GMAFB, we don't get LBJ and end up with a Ronnie Brewer type and/or a shooter and we will be sitting pretty

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 11:30 AM) The Bulls aren't any closer to a title than they were last season.. Boozer is a nice player and all, but they aint gettin to the finals anytime soon as teams like Orlando, Miami, and Boston are still better than them even without knowing where LeBron is going.. you might add Cleveland or New York to that list too, who knows until tonight.. Why does everyone assume its just going to be LeBron, Wade, Bosh and crap? There will be some people who will find a way to get on that team to get themselves a ring.. its not going to be the Bigger 3 and then a handful of guys from off the street.. If they got Bosh instead of Boozer would that have brought them closer?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 08:31 AM) am I the only one that thinks that Lebron/Wade/Bosh and no one else isn't automatically the team to beat? I know the differences with Boston, but to me the "big 3" didn't do it on their own, they needed an up and coming all star in Rondo to get over the top. Good? Absolutely. Unbeatable? Hardly. I agree and Mario Chalmers will not become Rajon Rondo, the Lakers say hello

Do the Bulls have to make another move to pull a LeBron signing, like a Deng trade or do they have enough for James now?

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 04:34 PM) Since Elton Brand got traded to the Clippers. Eddy Curry