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Whats wrong with bringing up a double A pitcher... He couldnt do any worse than Walker.. When the Sox brought up Radinsky in the 90's from single A he was a great pitcher
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how about we bring up the Bull
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If Mercker helps us win the pennant..I dont give a dam what he does with stoney
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Would love to see Mercker and Randa on the Sox.
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How about making a trade for Kent Mercker
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Yes I want Scott Eyre bring him back to the southside
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After the 1st inning SF 2 AZ 0 Schmidt 1IP 1 Hit 0 R's
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yes he is looks pretty sharp so far
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yes he is looks pretty sharp so far
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SF is leading2-0 in the top of first I believe Schmidt will be on the Whitesox in a few weeks..
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The Gigantic all encompassing TRADE THREAD
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Is their any reports back in Chicago about Schmidt coming to the Sox -
The Gigantic all encompassing TRADE THREAD
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A report here in SF on the flagship station is that Ned Colletti will be in Detroit the next few days to watch the Whitesox play.. Dont know if that means Schmidt is coming to the Sox -
The Gigantic all encompassing TRADE THREAD
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It looks like Burnett will be going to Baltimore -
The Gigantic all encompassing TRADE THREAD
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Phoenix -- On July 31, 1997, White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf declared, "Anyone who thinks we can catch Cleveland is crazy." It was a remarkable statement, because the White Sox were 3 1/2 games behind the first-place Indians in the American League Central. He was explaining why he traded a top starter, Wilson Alvarez, closer Roberto Hernandez and Danny Darwin to the Giants for six prospects whose names meant nothing to Chicago fans. The so-called white-flag trade infuriated those fans and the players left in the Chicago clubhouse, although in hindsight, Reinsdorf's radical rebuilding move was credited with helping the White Sox win their division three years later. A month from now, as the trade deadline nears, Giants general manager Brian Sabean could face a decision similar to Reinsdorf's. What if the Giants go on a little run and trim their deficit in the National League West to, say, six games, yet at the same time, the prognosis on Barry Bonds remains nebulous? Does Sabean deal for the short term to bolster a team that mathematically has a chance to contend? Or does he take a hard look at the 2005 Giants, decide they are dead money and sell off parts that might attract help for 2006 and beyond? "I certainly wouldn't compare us to '97 as far as the White Sox are concerned. I wasn't inside their organization or inside their heads," Sabean said last week, before the Giants were denuded by Oakland in a three-game series. "One way or the other, and it could be before the All-Star break, our situation will become further defined. Either we'll make strides and look forward to getting some people back and be in a possible acquisition mode, or if we go in a downward spiral, we're going to have to be prepared to be realistic and turn the page." As usual, Sabean will wait until the last possible moment to make that determination, but everyone knows the day of decision is close. "We are looking face to face with the present," manager Felipe Alou said. "Very soon we will be looking back. Most of the season will be over. The clock is ticking and we'll be looking at the winter." At some point, Alou said, Armando Benitez and Bonds will play again. Then, "we're looking at a pretty good ballclub. Looking at the present, we're a team (14) games under .500, and Barry still has not set a date for his return." There are differences between the 1997 White Sox and the 2005 Giants, who open a three-game series against the Diamondbacks tonight. The Sox were one game below .500 (52-53) when they made the white-flag trade. The Giants are buried deep below .500 (30-44) and 11 games out of first place, and if that doesn't change by this time next month, the comparison is not valid. On the other hand, the Giants play in a very weak division with a vulnerable front-runner, as did those White Sox. The San Diego Padres have many key players injured (Adam Eaton, Ramon Hernandez, Phil Nevin), and their closest pursuers, Arizona and Los Angeles, are flawed as well. Moreover, a team like last year's Astros feeds an anything-can-happen attitude. Houston was 56-60 on Aug. 14, won 36 of its last 46 games, then came within one win of the World Series. Sabean has to balance those issues against a multitude of flaws the Giants have exposed over their first 74 games. They seem more than a player or two away, even if Bonds suddenly gets healthy and contributes. Over the years, the Giants have maintained an anti-Reinsdorf stance, striving to reach the postseason if they believe it is reachable under the theory that there, any team can get hot and win it all. The Giants also need to present a competitive front to sell tickets. Moreover, they have a lot of older players with multiyear contracts who came here to win. What would their clubhouse be like in August and September if Sabean dealt away key components and started thinking about 2006, especially if the Giants won some games and narrowed their deficit? Ray Durham understands the question. He was one of those left behind in Chicago after the white-flag trade. "It's a bad feeling when you're that close and management gives up on you, " Durham said. "We were playing good when we made that trade. We were six or seven out and we got it down to three, and there were still two months left in the season. Anything could have happened. "It brought us closer together because we didn't want management to think that we couldn't do it. We actually had a meeting the next day after those guys left and said let's show these guys we can play. We came up short, but we played as a team and we overcame it. We didn't have the arms that we had, but we wound up playing pretty decent baseball there at the end." The White Sox finished 80-81, six games behind division-winning Cleveland. They had losing seasons in 1998 and 1999, but two of the pitching prospects they acquired from the Giants, Keith Foulke and Bobby Howry, played big roles for a division-winning 2000 team. If Sabean becomes a seller, he more likely would try to acquire young players with big-league experience and a high upside, not minor-league maybes like those he has dealt away over the years. He has no desire to turn the 2005 Giants into a proving ground. "No matter whether you're winning or losing, you've still got to have a presentable product," he said, "so it's not realistic to think you're going to gut the whole thing and have a tryout camp with young players and think that's going to be tolerated." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR SALE? The Chronicle asked a scout for a National League team in contention to rank the five Giants who might be most desirable to other teams for the stretch drive, regardless of their contracts. Here is the scout's list, plus some comments: 1. Jason Schmidt "I know for sure one team is actively pursuing Schmidt. No doubt he is No. 1." 2. Omar Vizquel "Vizquel, he came here to win. Now that Barry (Bonds) is out, you're taking a big player out of the equation." 3. Mike Matheny 4. J.T. Snow 5. Ray Durham "Durham, you could rate him anywhere from one to five because I know clubs have interest in him. I've heard his name a lot. But being that he's had injury problems and declined defensively, he's definitely more attractive to an AL team." (The scout also mentioned Scott Eyre and Jason Christiansen as possible trade targets.) -
The Gigantic all encompassing TRADE THREAD
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I live in SF and Schmidt to the Whitesox is a very strong possibility the rumor is that they have put the best deal on the table but Sabean wants to wait to see what other offers are out there... -
Players who have worn #1 & 5 On the Sox
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Maybe some people like to know who worn what jersey numbers... Bring back some of the Sox past -
Players who have worn #1 & 5 On the Sox
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Don Buford - IN Alan Bannister - IN Bob Farley IN / OF Scott Fletcher - IN Marc Hill - C Gene Lamont - MGN Jerry Manuel - MGN Noberto Martin - IN Syd O’Brien - IN Russ Snyder - OF Chuck Tanner - MGN "Jungle" Jim Rivera - OF Steve Sax - IN Ken Williams - OF #8 Kevin Bell - IN Albert Belle - OF Ray Boone - IN Daryl Boston - OF Mike Devereaux - OF Tom Egan - C Ferris Fain - IN Brooke Fordyce - C "Bo" Jackson - OF Mark Johnson - C Ted Kluszewski - IN Ron LeFlore - OF John "Pineapple" Matias - OF Tony Phillips - OF Harry "Suitcase" Simpson - IN / OF Pete Ward - IN / OF #9 Johnny Callison - OF Danny Cater - OF Wayne Causey - IN Ron Hansen - IN Woodie Held - IN "Minnie" Minoso - OF (Retired 1983) Lee "Bee Bee" Richard - IN Charlie Smith - IN -
Players who have worn #1 & 5 On the Sox
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your right forgot about Uribe -
Players who have worn #1 & 5 On the Sox
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Bobby Coluccio - OF Joe Cunningham - IN Ray Durham - IN Duane Josephson - C Vance Law - IN Matt Merullo - C Bobby Molinaro - OF "Bubba" Phillips - IN John "Honey" Romano - C Jerry Royster - IN / OF Luis Salazar - IN / OF Bill "Moose" Skowron Bill Sharp - OF Roy Sievers - IN Ed Spezio - IN -
Players who have worn #1 & 5 On the Sox
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My choice is Jim Landis -
Tommy Agee - OF Sandy Alomar Sr. - IN Luis Alvarado - IN Scott Fletcher - IN Lance Johnson - OF Jim Landis - OF Kenny Lofton - OF Tony Phillips - OF Bill Stein - IN Wayne Tolleson - IN
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Joe Randa - Whitesox a possibility
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I would rather have Mike Lowell -
Here in San Fran the rumor is that the Giants wants to trade several older players and get alot younger... Players that are rumor to be traded is Alou Schmidt Durham Rueter Alfonzo Feliz Snow
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Stark also said in his interview that 3 teams that really want Schmidt is the Whitesox Orioles Philadelphia
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Im listening to the radio here in SF and on XM radio Jayson Stark said that Larry Monroe was scouting Jason Schmidt performance last night
