But Jordan had Pippen. The bulls had perfect role players around those guys, granted I'm not arguing kobe is close to jordan because he isn't but if you give kobe a scottie pippen like partner then put solid role players around them then he'll win some titles. I agree with aboz, right now Tmac is the only guard that can be mentioned in the same breathe as kobe. Iverson is right below those two, Pierce isn't even close, and vince carter is a showboat who fills seats but is as overrated as they come.