SleepyWhiteSox

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) Sleeping til 11am than filling your belly with White Castles...Priceless! There was a long hair in my fries when I went last week. :puke That may have ruined my white castle experience for life. By the way, is there some kind of protocol for that? What is the proper action? All I did was tell the manager, and I got a replacement.

Rose and gordon making an unofficial recruiting visit to indiana this weekend. Might they commit? Rumors going around...bad news for DePaul, devastating for illinois...

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 10:20 PM) Ozzie has a him against the world attitude right now...and it's hurting our team. Please elaborate.

As much as everyone loves to b****, whine, and complain about it being the offense and Ozzie's fault, it was once again our s***ty pitching with no help from the defense...

Happy B-Day

QUOTE(danman31 @ Sep 1, 2006 -> 11:40 AM) Don't give me this 'the US doesn't play team ball or doesn't shoot well' bs because they have more than enough talent to win by 40 with ease. I just don't get it. I only caught the 1st quarter since the game was on so late, but those two reasons are basically it. Still too much 1-on-1 with LeBron, Wade, and especially carmelo trying to drive in against 4 guys from what little I've seen of the tournament. Also, no big man presence.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 03:20 PM) i'm not too sure about that. the article in the sun-times yesterday was definitely more favorable to depaul than it was to illinois. i'm not a big media conspiracy guy, but i think many illinois fans would find the assertion that chicago papers are more weighted to them quite humorous. if anything, illinois may get more coverage because of late they've had much more success than depaul has. that's not a slight to depaul, either, because i've always liked it's basketball program and am a wainwright fan. Well, the headline to the first article stated that illinois was no longer in the running for Rose instead of stating that DePaul, the team in Chicago, was. Just a small slight, but an understandable one since illinois has been more successful of late, as you mentioned. Without sounding like hangar with illinois being my cubs, I'll just say that the DePaul coverage of late has been subpar. Last year when we beat wake forest, for example, there were no Chicago papers there and all that the papers gave was the generic AP story. There have been minor things like that for a while now. The coverage just has been lacking. But, it's not a huge deal and I hate to sound like I'm complaining. The only way they can get better coverage is by playing better basketball and winning more games. Here's hoping they can do just that. Also, it's good to hear that you're a wainwright fan. I'm slowly warming up to him and can't wait to see more and more progress from our program...

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) Yea, because Garland has done it time and time again...Garland hasn't gotten 9 runs of support like this guy...Garland is 16-4 with a sub 4 era in his last 13 starts....Garland has won titles....Garland can make it through lineups more than twice....Garland has STARTED winning streaks....Garland has STOPPED losing streaks...Garland is getting paid LESS...Garland was acquired for LESS....Diminishing returns be damned. To compare Javier Vazquez with Jon Garland is beyond hilarious...without Garland we'd be out of this race....Vazquez has single-handedly given back momentum Garland has given us TIME AND TIME again...go look it up...go to each of Jon Garland's wins and find out HOW MANY TIMES Vazquez (who is behind him in the rotation) has FOLLOWED UP Garland with a win. And find out how many times Vazquez has blown a winning streak. The jury is out on this guy...we got done over a barrell over this over-priced stiff I was responding to the lack of credit he got for getting out of that particular instance, and also how Garland has been elevated to a god-like status on here (I wasn't pleased with his 1st half this year)...I luv Garland and hate vasquez and the trade just like everyone else, but was relieved to get out of that inning with only 1 run being scored on us after Crede couldn't make that catch and the bases loaded... Not sure what you mean when you say Garland has "won titles" since I can only recall one, last year's..and I hope you're not on the Garland-for-Cy Young bandwagon too...

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:20 PM) Ive been watching Javy ever since he came into the MLB. Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason. From what I can recall the Sox gave TB an extra out that inning with the pop up and Javy only gave up 1 run. Boo f***ing hoo Tell me how great Chris Young is again. Exactly...still would rather have kept young, but you gotta give him credit for only giving up 1 after Crede missed that one...if it were Garland, it would have been 3 more pages of praise for getting out of that with minimal damage...

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) As much as Pods likes to strikeout looking The pitching has been much, much, much more of a problem than pods...

posada is batting 4th ahead of arod??

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 01:22 PM) I was responding to the Sakamoto article. I probably could have been more clear. My mistake. The papers tend to lean towards illinois here, though. It would have been nice to have seen a bit more publicity about DePaul being in Rose's top 5 instead of having to hear so much about illinois not being in it. Can't complain since there's probably much more illini support around here anyways...

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) Not that it matters, but Koshwal never received an offer from Illinois so I'm not sure how we "lost" him. I was responding to a poster who stated that he believed they might one of him or those other 2 guys, so I'm not sure where you got the idea that anybody is saying you guys "lost" him. I'm just glad we're still in the running for Rose and are the front-runner for Mac.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) everyone is looking at this like its the end of the world. Rose is one and done and Illinois was not going to win the NCAA championship with Rose and Gordon as freshman. Its almost a blessing in disguise as now ILL will get a player who will stay at least three years. McCamey, Gordon, Tisdale, Cole and Dar Tucker/Koshwal/Stewart (i believe we get one of them) is still a hell of a recruiting class. Not Mac. And supposedly tucker will also visit Depaul and miami with illinois and indiana being his top 2. And by the way, I find the not wanting Rose because he's a one-and-done excuse kinda funny, but I'll be using it if/when he doesn't choose DePaul...

We have the worst offense in MLB...

Chicago Sun-Times Preps Don't blame shoe wars for Rose's snub of Illini August 30, 2006 BY MICHAEL O'BRIEN College basketball recruiting is a lot like real life. More often than not, getting what you want depends on whom you know. Success is about relationships. The soap-opera recruitment of Simeon star Derrick Rose is a perfect example. Rose trimmed his list of schools to five Friday: DePaul, Indiana, Kansas, Memphis and UCLA. Illinois fans immediately lit up message boards, outraged that all five schools were ''Adidas schools,'' meaning the schools' coaches have contracts with Adidas. Illinois' relationship is with Nike, leading Illini fans to believe it was a shoe-company conspiracy that kept their team from landing on Rose's list. This might come as a surprise to Illini fans, but shoe companies don't mean anything. It's much more significant that all five coaches -- Jerry Wainwright, Kelvin Sampson, Bill Self, John Calipari and Ben Howland -- have close relationships with Reebok's Sonny Vaccaro. ''That's no secret,'' Vaccaro said. ''Those are all quality coaches at quality programs that I've known for many years.'' In the last year, Derrick's brother Reggie, who is handling his brother's recruitment, has developed a relationship with Vaccaro. It led to Derrick attending Vaccaro's ABCD Camp, sponsored by Reebok, instead of Nike's camp, where he was expected to play because his club basketball team is sponsored by Nike. Rose has been startlingly independent when it comes to shoe companies. Simeon, his high school team, is sponsored by Nike. Meanstreets Express, his club team, is sponsored by Nike. The majority of club tournaments the team played in were Nike-sponsored. Rose attended the Reebok shoe camp and the Reebok Big Time Tournament in Las Vegas. All five of his final schools are Adidas schools. Adidas owns Reebok. That illustrates how Rose plays where and when he wants; he doesn't bow to shoe-company pressure. He's good enough to get away with it. Rose a true independent ''Rose has been more independent than any superstar player I've known,'' Vaccaro said. ''There is no AAU guy involved with his recruitment. That should be praised. I admire the Rose family as much as I've ever admired anyone.'' In the recent past, high-level Public League recruitments generally have been run by the high school coach or the club-team coach. Rose's is being run by his family, and the family doesn't have any shoe-company ties, which has led to that show of independence. Rose didn't join up with an established club team; he started his own. Rose didn't go to the shoe-company camp he was expected to go to; he went to the one his friends were invited to attend. It's obvious Vaccaro has become a significant influence on Rose's recruitment, which is only natural. No one in the Rose family has been through a game with stakes this high before. ''Illinois did not lose Derrick Rose because of any shoe-company politics or direct shoe-company war,'' said recruiting analyst Roy Schmidt, who runs Illinois Prep Bulls-Eye Report, a scouting service. ''The key is who is running the show and who is in charge of the recruiting process.'' Most local players with Division I hopes rely on a club coach with experience in recruiting. Larry Butler, Mac Irvin, Mike Weinstein, Mike Mullins, Tai Streets and Troy Johnson are the most prominent. All those men have shoe-company ties. A number of them have flipped around among shoe companies. ''What you try to do for the families is be more of a listening board for them,'' Butler said. ''I try to explain to them what the real deal is and what's not real, the things to expect in certain situations.'' Butler is a club basketball coach sponsored by Nike, but he has relationships with plenty of non-Nike coaches, including Wainwright, Self and Sampson. Butler's marquee player with the Illinois Warriors this summer, Crane forward Brandon McGee, committed to Sampson and Indiana, an Adidas school. Stories like that are the norm, not the exception. ''Antoine Walker grew up with Mac [irvin] and Adidas,'' Butler said. ''But he ended up going to Kentucky, a Nike school. When kids from my program start looking at schools, they don't say, 'Man, I'm going to a Nike school.''' Illini not playing 'the game' Rose, already with an eye on the NBA, immediately has jumped to the big time and is getting advice from Vaccaro. But it's not the shoe company the mentor works for; it's the relationships he has made through the years. ''The bottom line is, it is all about people and the relationships,'' Wainwright said. ''There's a trust factor, and people get to know you. Everything that is responsible about recruiting is because of the people involved.'' Just making Rose's list is a major victory for DePaul. ''DePaul should be commended for the fact that they have utilized the relationships that they have with the key players involved,'' Schmidt said. ''Even if they don't get Rose, it is going to help them down the road.'' The list of five-star in-state recruits Illinois has missed out on is growing: Shaun Livingston (2004, Duke); Julian Wright (2005, Kansas); Jon Scheyer (2006, Duke); Sherron Collins (2006, Kansas); and now Rose. Weber and Illinois simply aren't playing ''the game'' the way their rivals are. They aren't building relationships with the club coaches the way Calipari and Self have. That's why Illinois isn't on Rose's list. It has nothing to do with shoe companies.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 08:23 AM) Up until i moved last year, my boys had to wear 'uniforms' at the grade schools. Black or dark blue pants/shorts for boys, along with light blue polos, dress shirts or plain t-shirts. Pretty cheap to buy, even if they are wearing them 'only' 6 or 7 hours a day. You buy 5 or 6 polos for about $15 each, a few pairs of the pants, and actually do a load of laundry during the week, you are set for about $100. if you took your kid out shopping for the school clothes they wanted to wear, you would be lucky if the price tag was still 3 figures. My point exactly.

That's nice of illini fans to cry and complain now that they have no chance with him. Solid response, Coach Wainwright.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Aug 29, 2006 -> 01:18 AM) Either your reading is deplorable, or you just misunderstood my quote. I'll elaborate. Give him two more years. He'll be the best catcher in the league, maybe even the best hitter. He's a dime a dosen. He is just like Pujols. These guys come around at their respected positions once-twice every decade. The phrase "dime a dozen" is used to describe something that is common and does not have a lot of value.

QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 09:37 PM) i've definitely fallen into category number 2. My first year I went to almost every class. Last year, not so much. It's all about going to almost every one the first week or so, figuring out which ones you need to go to everytime and which ones you don't. Like this semester, my nutrition class, the lectures are straight out of the book. If i just keep up with the readings, lecture is pointless. While my econ class, I will have to go to everyday just because of the crazy material and the way the class is structured. I've always been the kind that will learn more reading and doing problems than taking notes on a lecture, where all the same info is in the book. I tried to go to all of my classes just because of how expensive school is. Feels like a waste of a lot of money to not go to class.

QUOTE(stretchstretch @ Aug 27, 2006 -> 09:55 PM) With the sickening feeling I took to bed last night after that heartbreaking loss, I spent some time today reflecting upon how many things fell into place last year and how spending nearly a month's pay to fly in from the west coast and take my father to games 1&2 of the WS brought memories I'll take to my grave. I then stepped back and realized how unrealistic it is of me to expect a repeat of next year, with record setting 1-run wins, a pitching staff all having simultaneous career years, and almost perfect chemistry in the clubhouse, when considering how difficult it is simply to make the playoffs two years in a row, for anybody except the one team spending $250M per year. Ozzie makes a lot of mistakes, players go through highs and lows throughout the season, and the GMs moves don't always pan out (the gamble on Thome that no one else would take paid in spades, Vasquez did not). All in all we're still right in it, MN still has to play a month of baseball better than us, and there are about 4 very real possible outcomes (though all not equally probably), including MN taking the division, us taking the division, or Detroit not even making the playoffs. There's going to be moments of confidence and despair in the coming month, but I have to be patient and not over react because we might just win the WC by a 1/2 game and then win three straight series. No one on this site believed last Sept 25th that we were going to make the playoffs (and the Sox gave them every reason to feel that way), let alone go 11-1 through Bos, LAA, and Hous.......... Detroit's 10 game lead shrank to 5.5 in a few days, our lead over MN evaporated in days, we both face Bos, NY, Det, Oak, and LAA, no one has a clue how this crazy thing might go???

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) Haha, I'm in Deviney so it's one of the s***iest ones on campus, but to tell you the truth...I love it. Everyone here gets along a lot more because they don't really care that they're in a crappy dorm. Oh yeah, a girl I dated was an RA there my sophmore year...I think it was smith and salley that were worse, not sure...and you're close to the nicer ones around landis green like gilchrist and murphee...My memory is probably failing me... I was in osceola hall, an off-campus dorm, my first year and frog pond apts. my 2nd year...ah, so many blurry FSU memories... Those walks to Doak will be fun. Enjoy it!

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Aug 28, 2006 -> 04:26 PM) I love the life so far. I moved in last Saturday and my first classes were today. Needless to say, that was a very fun week of partying. Everything is awesome about FSU: the girls (60-40 ratio), the campus, the weather. I went to a soccer game yesterday (I hate soccer) and our girls beat the number one team in the country 2-1. It was awesome and I couldn't believe the crowd there for the game. Tallahassee is an awesome college town and I can't wait for the football season to start. The hype is huge down here. It also doesn't hurt that I don't have classes until 11:15 on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday . What dorm are you in? And how horrible is it?

So we hate Ozzie now?

So people complain when pods is in the lineup along with complaining when the everyday lineup, including him, isn't used all the time...