SleepyWhiteSox

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 05:14 PM) Comments like this really piss me off. It's easy for somebody with fewer financial responsibilities to have a liberal attitude towards tax-dollar subsidization of illegals. But I'll be damned if I'm going to funnell away money that could go towards my family (or LEGAL American citizens via taxes) so that it can support illegal immigrants. Then I hope you feel the same way about all situations in which the government needlessly spends tax dollars with the same fervor.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) The kid needs to be punished, no doubt. Where does this fall in the school rules and by-laws? Good point, but I thought we're now talking about what the authorities will do since a complaint was filed.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 05:01 PM) I heard music when he pitched alright. A requiem, I believe. lol...

QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 04:21 PM) Boers and Bernstein are interviewing Greg Gumbel right now and he said he grew up a Sox fan. I always thought he was a Cubs fan like his brother. At least the Sox got the rational Gumbel. They went to high school about a block away...

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Mar 10, 2006 -> 06:36 PM) I dont believe I am right and you are wrong, or vice versa. I just believe we see it different. I know Viagra was initially developed as a blood thinner/heart attack prevention drug, and I know the differences vs ex-lax, but I think the intent is the same in both instances, to humiliate the victim, not really to harm them even though it is possible. What is different is the level of harm that it can cause, as has been pointed out by the side effects of viagra, a prescription drug. Because it has the potential to be much more harmful, the punishment must fit the "crime."

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 03:22 PM) Honestly, it's really hard to not get about 58 of the 65 right. I don't bother looking at all the numbers and don't have any inside information and only like 3 teams surprised me. Plus he's typically pretty bad at getting the seeding right. Very true. It always just comes down to getting the final 2-3 bubble teams down. fsu didn't deserve it...

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) Can you give me an example of how someone here used this "racism and stereotyping" in a post that lead you to make this comment. I read through the whole thread and I can't find one besides your post that states it. Please show me an example of this and why you had to bring this into the argument at all. Thank you. What part of "But I do think stereotyping and racism plays a part in their poor treatment" did you not understand? No examples needed. I stated my opinion. I felt like bringing it up. Thanks.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 10:02 AM) It is always funny to me to read different opinions on different sites. Wow, that's harsh. I didn't see the whole show, but it was interesting.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 13, 2006 -> 02:19 PM) Funny, that same person implied that people who oppose illegal immigration do so out of racism. Nope, that was never the implication. That was the assumption when I brought up latent racism (Know what that is?). I think latent racism plays a role in people wanting to just kick out every single illegal immigrant as the answer. Then words were put in my mouth, as you continue to do, that I say everyone who opposes illegal immigration is racist. I never said that nor believe it, but I do think stereotyping and racism does play a role in the negative and demeaning way that illegal immigrants are portrayed. You'd be a fool to contend that racism doesn't exist. It is in no way the sole reason why their is opposition towards immigrants (financial and human rights reasons have been given in the thread, and I agree with those too), but it's there.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 10:47 PM) Asshole The thread title said crazy upset...

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:50 PM) lol Ohhh, of course... It's america's fault. I should have known. You should really look into the immigration process that many "progressive" European countries have, our laws are not unfair. oh, and you took sociology classes, don't lie (it makes noam chomsky cry). Ok, I probably did take some... And I'm not blaming the U.S. I'm just saying it can do a better job if it's truly a problem. Since the government hasn't, maybe it isn't as bad as those who b**** and moan say it is? I really don't know... And to bring it all together...I don't mean silly laws that will arrest and jail doctors, social workers, school teachers and who knows who else if they assist illegal immigrants. I mean laws and programs that will deal with it properly, whether it be an efficient guest worker program or whatever. Just kicking them all out wouldn't be the answer either, both because it is somewhat inhumane and crippling to the economy...

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:35 PM) All I said was that the vast majority of people are against illegal immigration because of financial concerns, not racism. You responded saying that I was "putting words in your mouth". I don't think racism it plays a major role at all, maybe your sociology teacher told you it does and likes to stress that the white male oppressor needs to be stopped bla bla bla... I've heard this argument before. Oh, btw, do you think you can just go move to ANY industrialized first world country without documentation? If you do I suggest looking what other countries expect from their new citizens. Even the best country in the world, france, is against illegal immigration. I'm not for illegal immigration. I'm for the United States setting up the proper laws, programs, etc. to regulate it efficiently. Since it doesn't, I can see why people come here illegally. And the assumptions keep coming...I never took a sociology course nor do I think racism is the main reason people oppose illegal immigration...But I do think stereotyping and racism plays a part in their poor treatment.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) Get married, have children, buy a house, pay back your student loans, and tell me what you think of economic re-distribution for "humanitarian" reasons 10 years from now. I'm paying them back. Now do I do them in that order? How many children do you think I should have? Again, I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion...

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:22 PM) ok I never said it's the sole reason. And yes, stereotyping and racism is unecessary. Don't bulls*** yourself, it plays a role.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) You still haven't told me what you do for a living. How about just giving me your age? 22. Out of college. Full-time job. Yep, I pay rent, utilities, taxes, living expenses, etc. I like watching baseball, long walks on the beach, and cuddling. Anything else?

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:14 PM) Sure, if they have legal visas, they're more than welcome to work here in America. Yet they're given priority when defecting from Cuba so they can come help some baseball teams.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 11:05 PM) You are claiming people that oppose illegal immigration are probably racist, this is not accurate. Sure, some people are racist... but the vast majority of people against illegal immigration are against it because of the huge financial strain it puts on the current citizens of the country and security issues. Show me where I said that please. Enough words have been put in my mouth and assumptions have been made as it is.

Kinda hoping to have seen DePaul in it...Sad, I know... There were wins over 'Cuse, Wake, UAB, Creighton...and Dayton, Notre Dame, St. John's, Seton Hall...but too many stupid losses...

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 10:47 PM) :headshake you are so ignorant on this topic. How so? Please enlighten me. I luv it how everyone is a self-professed expert when all we're doing is sharing opinions. Just because my opinion is different, you have to call me ignorant about a topic to make yourself feel better?

QUOTE(WCSox @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) Isn't the race card getting kind of old? :rolly Let me ask you something: What do you do for a living? Let me ask you something: Why do you want to know? That has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand, but I appreciate the curiosity about me. Personally, I dislike it when people feel the need to bring up specifics about a person to either validate or disprove their opinions. I prefer not knowing or caring who you are and what you do in this particular setting and just taking your opinion for what it's worth. And at no point have I played the race card...just that their were shades of latent racism in the tones of some of the posts...Not surprised to see it misintrepreted and twisted. :rolly

air force over their first round opponent.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 08:48 PM) And finally, keep the race card in your pocket. Its one thing if you want to argue the subject, but it is weak and narrowminded to throw that out everytime you can't refute an arguement. What argument have I not refuted? Racism and steryotyping will always be a part of the issue, whether you choose to admit it or not. No need to get on your high horse as if you think you're above it...

havant counted yet, 6 b10 teams right?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 08:17 PM) I was thinking the same thing. All we had to do was basically show up until we played Arizona. In a home game.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2006 -> 08:07 PM) That is 12 million people who are burdening all of our vital welfare systems in place for our own poor people. Because all 12 million are on welfare? What I meant was that there currently is no "illegal asylum." That's bulls***. Again, blame the American government for not taking the proper actions if they really want to fix the problem, not the good, hard-working people who just want to provide for themselves and their family. Such obvious, negative attitudes, the stereotyping, racism, etc., is unneccesary.