SleepyWhiteSox

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jan 10, 2006 -> 03:33 PM) There is so much more to basketball that just scoring, but I agree that it's making baskets that puts asses in seats. I understand how the business works. While defense rules all without exception, I agree that guys like Samuel Dalembert and Tyson Chandler are making a little bit too much, as casual fans don't come out to see them. They want scoring, scoring, and more scoring. While I pity the fool that thinks along those lines, it's just reality. I disagree with your statement and agree that tyson is way overpaid. You're making an unfair comparison since Dalembert is actually earning his pay. He's top ten in rebounding and top three in blocks while tyson is...umm...well, he's not doing much of anything lately...

QUOTE(q\/\/3r+y @ Jan 10, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) Horror movies are his sharks... Has a strange infatuation with a former poster.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 10, 2006 -> 08:04 AM) But Qwerty said Curry was a bust and that Chandler is much more important to our team that cant be true! But seriously.... Gordon has improved on all aspects of his game since enterting the starting lineup. His shot selection is much better, he is passing the ball getting around 5 assists a game, and his defense is much improved. Also I think Kirk plays much better with Gordon in the game than he does with Duhon. I love Duhon but I always felt he was better suited off as a PG coming off the bench when either Gordon/Hinrich were having a bad shooting night he would get more time. Also Deng is still the man ... and Nocioni has been much better on offense this season its kind of remarkable. But...but...but..but...but...Stamina!...Shot-Alterer! I agree on pretty much all of your points. Good call on duhon.

It got unimpressive scores and reviews in the magazine I was reading...I think EGM...

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) NO you are correct, its just we as a nation have become so PC we can't spreak the truth anymore. I have no problem with any ethnic background, I would make the same fuss if there was a Polish speaking show on the Score. Also I am planning to move to Germany.. so I am learning German, not expecting them to cater to me.. That is what Eupopeans hate about us.. Yet Latinos are expecting this now because they came here in droves. This is a touchy subject because most can't face the reality of the situation, it easy to throw around the racist label when they fail to understand the problem.

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 7, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) I'm just speaking from personal experience here, that's all. I only know one Mexican imigrant that speaks english well and he's married to my mom's cousin. Othr than that, NONE spoke more than a few words. Several were here for more than 5+ years. Come one, learn a few sentances. Uh...you do know that you sound ignorant when you make a judgement on a huge population based on such a tiny sample size, right?

DePaul 73 - notre dame 67

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 04:23 PM) Horriable Idea..When is there going to be a Polish, German, French show? Why are they catering to just people who speak spanish? lol...

QUOTE(G&T @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) uh oh Things looked bad in this one.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) Nobody's "failed" to see anything. And nobody's acting as an "apologist" for the Catholic Church. EVERYBODY knows about these horrific acts. You'd think it's a fairly easy concept to comprehend...

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) I bash people who proclaim to be the moral font for the world (i.e. the Catholic Church) when they've got some of the bloodiest hands on the planet. And I bash close-minded idiots who spin the truth so they can spew their idiotic messages and cause needless controversy. Good luck with your bashing.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:33 PM) He's right. We should give up on being Americans as well, given the level of corruption in our government. I was gonna give it up because of slavery!

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:20 PM) It boggles my mind that seeing the massive moral corruption and amoral nature of so much of the Catholic church apparatus history that anybody would want to be a part of that organized religious apparatus. Might as well bash what you can't understand, right?

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:09 PM) And if that is a laughing matter to you, then by all means laugh yourself silly. You know I wouldn't be laughing at that. And since you were nice enough to call me out about finding a specific quote, here is the one that I was thinking of when I made my statement: "I just find it hilarious that Sleepy et al. seem to be defenders of an organization that coddled rapists and those complicit in mass exterminations."

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 01:39 PM) I take it you are still combing the thread for the post arguing that Catholics who hold respect for the Church are in favor of molestation and rape? No need. It's been alluded to throughout. I'm still laughing at the idea that those is need "sure haven't gotten much help from their fellow Catholics."

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 01:20 PM) It's a good thing the meek are inheriting the Earth, because they sure haven't gotten much help from their fellow Catholics. Yeah, I've never heard of the Catholic Church ever helping those in need either... :headshake Quite a warped sense of truth around here...

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) Now, point out to me how I was a pretentious moron or showed a lack of decency or common courtesy. Not you in particular. I meant more in general. Besides, you weren't the pretentious moron with the "f***ing hypocritical bastards" and "fascist whiners" comments. Edit: The first of my post was what was more directed to your post that I quoted.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 11:04 AM) Wow. I hate to offend anybody, but this a subject that is a powder keg. The way I'm seeing this discussion is that LCR, Mr. Kickass and FlaSoxxJim are condemning some of the policies of the institution of the Catholic Church, and not the faith or the religion as a whole. The Church, throughout history, has done an uncalculable amount good and compassionate deeds. Conversely, the Church has history of spilling a lot of blood, corruption, using the name of Christ to serve it's own policies and politics. The institution of the Catholic Church symbolizes faith to many people. Are you really not seeing the connection? The institution is the concrete form...Catholics obviously are going to hold deep feelings for the Church. Millions mourned the death of the Pope, for example... So when someone refers to leaders of a faith as "f***ing hypocritical bastards," isn't it logical that people are going to find that offensive? I really don't give a s*** if you're a pretentious moron who thinks that way...I was just expecting a little bit more decency and common courtesy. And the counterargument that Catholics who hold respect for the Church are in favor of molestation and rape is f***in' ridiculous...

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:33 AM) Glad i will not have to spend 9206583069$ to play twilight princess when it comes out... Better come out soon... Don't you dare make it a Revolution title, Nintendo...You promised.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 01:24 AM) give me a break... I'm no Catholic Church apologist, but this is ridiculous. Hope has been given to millions of people. Food, shelter and help has been given to even more. I know many good people who happen to be Catholics. This whole thread is a shame. From the Catholics caring about what South Park has to say about them to LCR and Rex's assinine posts. (go figure) The one good thing about this thread is that I've seen some reletively unknown to me posters say some great things. Great post.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 01:16 AM) Good to see some Catholics still can think for themselves and not rush to defend the atrocities of the Roman Catholic Church merely because it is the Roman Catholic Church, their Roman Catholic Church. Please show me where this was done on this board.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 11:03 PM) I find it ironic that you can argue for drugs, socialism, anti-americanism, all things left because you feel that you are so open and understanding....but the minute a catholic crosses your path thats when you just have to draw the line, all catholics except for a few are evil people that are responsible for the worlds evils. Its the socialist doubletalk twostep. I am sure that we can find evil actions by all societies throughout history. But please cherry pick the evil catholics and their plight to destroy the earth. No catholic unless they are delusional supports priests raping children. I think those priests should be excommunicated and tried for their crimes. However who the hell are you to judge all catholics and lump them in because of your biggoted anti-religion view. The church isnt preaching for the spread of aids. What a myopic view you have of this issue. GMAFB, If these poor african people are truly such good little catholics that they have to sit by doctrine law and dont use birth control, then what the hell are they doing having sex outside of the confines of marriage. So there goes the misconception that aids in africa is the problem of the church and their stance on birth control, because if they decide to go poking around outside of marriage then they can put on a rubber. Maybe you can build a time machine and enjoy the roman empire and how they treated the catholics. Excellent post. Too bad it won't get through...

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) As I said before there are some Catholics that I respect. I just find it hilarious that Sleepy et al. seem to be defenders of an organization that coddled rapists and those complicit in mass exterminations. You just don't get it...How sad...

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 06:53 PM) So let me get this straight -- you linked an article to support your statements that doesn't support your statements at all, and now you're telling me that it doesn't matter because you've heard that some Catholics think that way, even if they aren't in any sense the voice of the Church? Are you f***ing kidding me? What a great well reasoned, detailed response refuting my points. You sure showed me. QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 06:05 PM) I believe that's what the kids call getting 'pwn3d'.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 06:18 PM) What a great well reasoned, detailed response refuting my points. You sure showed me. You just don't merit a response if that's what you truly believe... The good of the Church far outweighs the examples you're going to keep throwing out. Galileo??? Wow, what an argument...Just imagine all of the past mistakes that have been made throughout history because of what was unknown...Horrible argument...Doesn't even apply to today... An organization with such a massive size covering such a huge amount of time thoughout history is not going to come without its problems, mistakes, etc. When such a large volume of people is involved, problems are inevitable..obviously. It's human nature to f*** up. But the overall message of the Church is good. You and I both know that. Don't confuse human error for what the Church stands for. I will stand by this statement: The good of the Church FAR outweighs the problems and mistakes that have come along throughout history...its not even close. So when you make ignorant statements about the Catholicism, you're gonna offend some people, whether you care or not. What you can do is seperate the instances that you don't agree with from the overall umbrella of "Catholicism" because that word stands for much more than you realize. I guess respecting others' beliefs, what some people base their lives on and believe in very strongly, is foreign to you. That's fine. Good for you. I just pride myself in knowing that you'll never hear me making such statements about what others believe in, like calling them "f***ing hypocritical bastards."