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QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) I am saying he was the better one on one defender out of the two. Clearly neither were a slouch but i would give the edge to rodman. He would keep everyone off balance and would even let the passer get the ball into the man he was guarding countless times a game. I have never seen anything like it. I know i am not the only one with that train of thought. Fair enough, but it's tough to judge when they both have different jobs. Personally, I see Pippen as the better defender, especially the much more versatile one. I hated rodman but appreciated his game. Pippen brought so much to the team with his versatility.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) idk, I just think he was more than a complimentary player, but not a superstar. And yes statistically when Jordan wasn't there averaging over 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists. That's very solid, but unlike some of the greats, when his career was ending, his ability statistically really took a hit. So your argument is that he isn't a great because his numbers went down when he got older? That's almost every single great player... Off the top of my head I can only think of Jordan retiring on top.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) Btw, i believe rodman> pippen defensively that is not even including their rebounding skills. I know someone will bring up pippens steals but believe it or not steals and blocks look good in the box score but they are only about a quarter of the game defensively imo. I hope you mean just guarding big men. I was agreeing with almost everything you were saying about PIP in this thread 'til now...

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:01 PM) Would have been better in my opinion and would have gotten alot more recognition. He was the best all around player in the league the when jordan went to try out baseball. Agreed. And Jordan doesn't win six championships...

Elton Brand is looking like an MVP candidate early on...wish it was for the Bulls.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) Greatest facial dunk of all time... PIP

I was actually impressed that he was hitting his free throws too.

Anybody else check out Oden?

DePaul 70 - 66 uab

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Crawford would probably cost some combination of Brian Anderson, Josh Fields, and Sean Tracey. I'd give up all 3 and cream my pants if it actually happened.

How long are players usually out with a concussion?

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:11 PM) Here is where you are just dead wrong. His defensive upside is through the roof. How many games do you watch? Honestly? I honestly watch every single Bulls game and have grown tired of 5 years of upside and am ready for results.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) Tyson's scoring: 02-03: 9.2 ppg 03-04: 6.1 ppg 04-05: 8.0 ppg 05-06: 5.8 ppg 6 points per game from a 7-1 guy, plus he is averaging less than one block per game at 7-1!! Tell me this guy is worth $10 million or even 6 million. His defesive is good, not great, his offensive is horrible. Brace yourself for the altered shot argument. Never mind how often his weak frame gets pushed around.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) That's funny, because in one thread you're talking about Vasher as if he's worth something defensively. In another thread, you're talking s*** about our primary defensive building block. Your take on all things defense is very interesting, to say the least. He said he loves Tyson but wants him to stay out of foul trouble and hasn't proved he's worth the money so far. All legitimate concerns. I'm assuming he maybe does like his defense since he criticized his scoring. Which part didn't you agree with? Edit: Ben is looking good early, which is going to be crucial with Kirk out tonight. 7 points and 3 assists.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:55 PM) Can Tyson please stay out of foul trouble and learn to score. He is proving that he isn't worth $10 million a year. I love Tyson, but he has been really dissapointing and he seems to have digressed as far as scoring ability. You and me both.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Chicago Stagg retro uni's. May this be the first and last time they ever wear those. I seriously thought the mavs forgot their road uni's and switched shorts with the Bulls while the Bulls wore their practice jerseys.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) Some of the worst jerseys evar. Just turned the TV on to catch the elbow to Kirk. Did they explain the uniforms? What is that?? Ben hits a three. BENCH HIM!

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Has Dane Cook bashed him too? I like Dane Cook's stand-up more than his.

I like The Wayans Bros. I forgot about that show 'til I caught some reruns on BET, I think.

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 01:29 AM) I liked Lost in Space. Bad movie...yet I watched it like 5 times 'cause I thought lacey chabert was cute at the time. (No blushing smiley?)

QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) Says who? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114746/ http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/12_monkeys/ http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=twelvemonkeys.htm http://www.boxofficemojo.com/bradpitt.html Oh, wow, for some reason I was thinking that it did more like Blade Runner or Brazil where the cult status came after lackluster box offices grosses. I was 12 when it was released and I just remember really liking it but hearing other people say they didn't get it. It was slightly confusing at certain points, but overall I liked it a lot.

It's been mentioned before about how bad they are, but... I really like how Nike is allowed to add grey to every university's school colors. Wow, do they make the worst uniforms in every sport...