SleepyWhiteSox

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 06:25 PM) Well, I'm not so sure about that. The only high schoolers who have produced eye-popping numbers right off the bat in recent years have been Garnett and Howard. It takes much longer for certain guys to develop. Some guys are immensely talented, and they never work out due to a lack of heart/work ethic. As you know, Tyson has as big of a heart as any other player on the Bulls, and that's saying something with guys like Hinrich and Duhon in the picture. Like I said the other day, combine that with his rare combination of size and agility, plus his mean streak, and you should have a defensive monster similar to that of Marcus Camby, Theo Ratliff, Dikembe Mutombo, etc. He ain't never gonna be as strong as Ben Wallace or Dennis Rodman, but whatever. And Brand is a respectable shot-altering force, but make no mistake about one thing. Teams want to attack him. Guys are gonna make plenty of shots over him because he's undersized, and his leaping ability is somewhat limited. He's not, nor will he ever be an elite defensive player. Tyson will be. More often than not, I'll say could be, but in Tyson's case, there is not a doubt in my mind that he'll go down with Pippen, Rodman, Jordan, Sloan, etc as one of the finest defenders in the history of the Chicago Bulls (barring any unfortunate injuries). And as far as Camby missing a game, that's fine. He'll probably play somewhere in the neighborhood of 68-74 games, which may very well be enough for him to win the rebounding title. I used the wrong words. What I meant is that even though guys like Jermaine O'Neal who was toiling deep at the end of a bench on a veteran Blazers team, a very young T-Mac clearly in the shadow of VC in Toronto, and Kobe coming off the bench early on in LA, the potential was shining through much more than with Tyson. Their rookie numbers weren't eye-popping, but their potential seemed that way. They had a certain buzz. The word around the league was that they had the potential to blow up into superstars, and Tyson clearly does not have that type of buzz. There's a reason for that... And it's funny you should mention heart, because I firmly believe that Brand plays with much, much, much more heart, intensity, and desire than Tyson does. I've been fortunate enough to catch a couple of games of his already this season, and he definitely looks much stronger, tougher, and more talented than Tyson. He may be undersized, but he gets pushed around a lot less than Tyson. I don't think anyone associated with the Clippers will mind him being challenged as long as he keeps swatting close to 3 shots per game and the Clippers keep winning. It'll be fun to watch him make his first All-Star team. I respect your prediction, but I am going to prefer watch him make at least one All-Defensive Team before I even think of mentioning him in the same sentence as Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman defensively. I just don't see it at all, but for the sake of the Bulls, I hope you're even halfway right. Don't forget to keep in mind that this is already his FIFTH season...

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) Antawn Jamison is averaging 15 RPG over his last four games. He has had damn near 10 rebounds by halftime a number of times already. IMO, the only thing holding him back from superstar status is his inability to alter shots out of the PF slot. You can score on sweet Antawn without much of a problem. There is no denying that he has been unbelievable this year when you consider his overall impact, though. Game Log Yep. I expected his numbers to go up with Hughes leaving. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) At the moment, you couldn't find a more devastating shot-altering force in the NBA than Marcus Camby. The guy is just insane, and if Nene and Kenyon Martin were healthy, the Nuggets would still be my pick to play the Spurs in the Western Conference Finals. And he's already missed a game due to injury. He's having a great start, but damn is he way too fragile. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) If not for Camby, Dwight would have a terrific shot at leading the league in rebounding this year at the age of 19. This guy is going to be a legend. Yep. He's looking so good at such a young age. Another reason why I no longer have high hopes for a high school guy like the ones we have/had. If you're good, you'll produce early. Be prepared to be very disappointed with such high hopes that you have for Tyson. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 26, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) 1) Marcus Camby 13.9 RPG 2) Dwight Howard 12.6 RPG 3) Shawn Marion 12.5 RPG 4) Tim Duncan 11.9 RPG 5) Ben Wallace 11.9 RPG 6) Antawn Jamison 11.2 RPG 7) Chris Bosh 10.5 RPG 8) Kevin Garnett 10.5 RPG 9) Elton Brand 10.3 RPG 10) Tyson Chandler 10.2 RPG 10) Jermaine O'Neal 10.2 RPG Now here's the guy you should be talking about. Brand is looking GREAT this season. (Yeah, I'll never forgive the Bulls organization for such a horrible trade.) He's definitely a huge part of why the Clippers are off to such a good start. 23.5 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 2.75 Blocks Per Game. Now those are superstar PF numbers.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 25, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) We are the Knights of the Revolution. Can I join? I was soo happy when my friend sold me a used Dreamcast and about 15 ripped games (NBA 2K and World Series included )for 15 bucks (memory didn't work). Sadly, I left it on accident when I moved out of my apartment.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 11:08 PM) Which tells you they are artificially creating a demand to hype the buzz. If Microsoft knew how many preorders there were from June – and also authorized that number of preorders I assume – there is no excuse for not being able to ramp up production to provide that many units 5 months later. Yep. I think I heard that they were gonna have 1 million available at launch but only have 400,000.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) Chandler is 22 years old, not 32. Remember, he's still a baby in NBA terms. He's trying to adjust to a new position. He'll probably have to move back to PF, which is fine. I envisioned him as a ranger out of the C, but when he peaks, I'd much rather have him guarding the Duncans, Garnetts, and Stoudamires of the world. You've gotta admit he's looking s***ty as hell so far. Please let me know when he's ready to peak, because he's getting paid like a player that should have been getting much, much closer to the so-called peak that you envision. I've lost all hope of him ever bulking up and don't get surprised watching him get pushed around, for the most part, anymore.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 01:17 AM) But then again, it's probably one of those things where he's only impressive in the games that you tune in for, and he is a lousy team player the rest of the time. Well, I've only seen him in 2, but his numbers have been pretty good too. I usually root for the Illinois guys. And I'd have a few questions as to why you hate a few of those guys...

Link please?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 04:07 AM) What's the point of having KG and crap? It's better than crap piled up on top of crap? Minny obviously isn't doing it right, and I'm confident Pax would do a much better job surrounding a superstar like KG with the right talent. Too bad we'll never know. To be honest, no Bulls player really excites me, and I don't see this team developing into a current Pistons-caliber team that would be capable of getting far into the playoffs. Although somewhat deep (except at C), the Bulls teams of these past two seasons basically seem like perennial 6-7-8 seed contenders. I honestly see very little upside, especially with players like Chandler actually regressing. It would be nice to find a way to get a high-quality, superstar-type player on the Bulls. I do hope Peja is serious, but I would luv it even more if Pax can pull a blockbuster deal. My fingers are crossed.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 02:04 AM) Id be fine giving up Chandler and Hinrich..... but no to Deng....dont mind giving up another player but Chandler/Hinrich/Deng is too much for 1 player especially when he is already what 30? I'd give up the whole team and players from other teams if I could... There really isn't a single Bulls player that I find not expendable when it comes to getting someone like KG.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 04:47 PM) ^^^ Majerus and Steve Lavin are great analysts. I would have killed for Majerus and luved Lavin instead of what we have...

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) s***, I benched him in favor of Drew Bledsoe. Green?

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) BREAKDOWN The Bears are a good team. There are other good teams. There is a way to go before the Superbowl. SuperBowl rings have never been issued in November. Please show me where lots of Bears fans are going crazy and talking Super Bowl. Other than saying it's a possiblity, which it is, I haven't seen it.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) The rapture of victory is blinding some people. There are still a lot of good teams out there. And the Bears are proving to be a good team too. Your point?

I HATE the Blue Demons! Stupid wainwrong...

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) Here's more, from Sportsline: EDIT: Poor HTML use. Jean Lenti Ponsetto Statement - 11/18/2005 By DePaul Sports Information Statement from DePaul University Director of Athletics Jean Lenti Ponsetto Re: Allegation of NCAA secondary rules violation in the recruitment of Manuel Cass "It has come to our attention that allegations have been made regarding alleged NCAA rules violations in the recruitment of prospective men's basketball student-athlete Manual Cass of Carbondale, Ill. Manuel was recruited by DePaul University and its men's basketball staff over the entire summer recruitment period. Manuel then made his official visit to DePaul University on the weekend of November 5. A National Letter of Intent (NLI) was sent to Manuel by DePaul University on November 8. DePaul men's basketball head coach Jerry Wainwright operated under the assumption, based on conversations with those involved, that Manuel had already signed his NLI to attend DePaul University prior to Coach Wainwright's visit to Carbondale on November 13. Coach Wainwright was thus operating under the belief that the NCAA rule stating that once a prospective student-athlete has signed his/her NLI, coaches from that respective institution are allowed unlimited contacts, was applicable. We have reported these actions to the proper officials at the BIG EAST Conference and will provide information to the NCAA upon completion of our review in order to cooperate to the fullest extent."

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 06:59 AM) YAY. Australia's going to World Cup next year in 2006. We just beau Uruguay on penalties to qualify for the 1st time in 32 years. Hopefully we draw the same group as America, so we can have an easy win. I was just noticing your avatar. Congrats. I'll be rooting for Mexico's early successes and eventual loss...hopefully not another loss to USA, who undoubtedly has their number.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) This is pathetic. Chandler is looking like a major bust. He can't go hard to the basket and he doesn't make his free throws when he does get fouled. Yep. I've always wished I'd be wrong about him. On the bright side, he got his first block in the past 6 games.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) That's what I'm saying. Potbelly's is great. The Wreck is my favorite from there. Only thing is they need to make bigger subs. I also love Fontano's. They make the subs I'm too lazy to make at home and do a damn good job of it. Can't forget about Mr. Sub. Yep. Both are very good. Italian on white for me at both places. Potbelly's>Fontano's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>subway When I walk out of class at the Loop campus there's one of each on the very same block. And now I need to give a potbelly's breakfast sandwich a try.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) I've boycotted their terrible subs for almost 10 years now. Best and Subway Sub don't go together. Yes. Thank you. Completely agree. And yes, I've tried it many a time before knocking it. I don't think I've ever had a satisfying meal there...everything from hard, stail bread and having half the bottle of mustard squirted into my sandwhich to green roast beef. subway :puke

subway sucks...

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 09:49 AM) rules violation for depaul in cass signing? Yeah, I saw that. That guy might just be bitter because the idiot reported the previous day that Cass would wait 'til spring to make the decision, even though he had already decided on DePaul. http://www.pjstar.com/stories/111705/BRA_B85ASJFR.071.shtml Still, I hope Wainwright isn't already f-ing up this early in his tenure.

http://ilprepbullseye.com/page41.html

Larry Hughes went there. That's all I got.

I don't like this Bulls team very much.

Apparenty not a jay-z thread...my bad...