SleepyWhiteSox

jealous vendetta?

"the wet sox" :headshake

I'm still seeing weather warnings. Maybe I'm not that big of an idiot...

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Roc has started to wear them and now all of a sudden, Crede has too. So what's up with that? I just noticed crede today. Looks great, in my opinion.

QUOTE(56789 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:57 PM) Bump My manager had a Nintendo Power magazine on her today and I was lookin through it and they had a thing on The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess and it looks badass. I checked out more stuff on it when i got home and i seriously might get a used gamecube just for this game....Or i guess i could wait till the Rev and play it on that. It is still a while away though. Yeah. Still a ways away and they're already selling pre-orders. I'm definitely getting it on the first day.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Akon sings it. Yeah, my brother said it plays in the background of his song. I have no idea.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) Great song. Sounds like little chipmunks singing. Sounds like something from Kanye?

I'm an idiot. I was on my way to the game but turned back when it started pouring. :headshake How the hell did it end so fast???

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) Boone singles? Come on he is hitting in the 150's. Weren't you supposed to go to the game with c.c. sabathia's uncle or somethin'?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) JimH and Juggernaut, I applaud you because you kept the thread about what it's supposed to be about. Why and what can be done about it? A+ Posts. Now jugger, what about the UIC campus and the high schools closer to the Cell. I went to St. Ignatius and 1/2th the people were Sox fans, but only about 1/4 of that actually go(the people who actually live in Bridgeport. I mean, Wrigley certainly has alot of colleges around it, but the Cell has UIC and the University of Chicago closer to it and IIT. I went to school at De. IIT seems like the most boring college campus ever.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) i think the other guy is more like "what everyone else thinks of us" and DJ is informing him of what he sees/what we think everyday. I'm enjoying it. The annoying part is that what "everyone else thinks" is mostly negative.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) Frank probally pulled his hamstring.

I f***in' HATE this announcer!!!

Looks like Jim saved the thread.

QUOTE(56789 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:14 PM) EA did the same thing for Madden so it was kinda like. OK you buy the rights to football and we will by the rights to baseball. At least thats what i think. I think that's exactly what happened. EA ruined it to begin with by monopolizing football. 2K just countered. The blame goes to EA, in my opinion.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:34 AM) Which is the mission sox-r-us is on to find out. Lemme know what you guys come up with. I think attendance is a major problem too and would really like to have it fixed.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:31 AM) Sleepy While it may help keep people feel less insecure about themselves, it does not really help solve the problem you are b****ing about. DO you agree? There is no way Ozzie is dropping Timo based off our venting? (It may still happen but not because of our posts). Neither is Cruddy going to improve based of our analysis of why he sucks. It may help with self-rationalization and hence is more therapeutic in nature, I disagree that it really helps solve the problem we are b****ing about to begin with. NOne the less, thanks for your opinions. You have some sound points. So how does talking about attendance solve anything? All I see it do is cause more arguments than usual, if that's possible.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) Yeah, no one came out and just said the attendance sucks. sox-r-us was trying to have a discussion about why it sucks and what will improve it because so far, everybody who said, "wait til june" was wrong. And I've yet to hear a good way of improving it from ANYBODY. Personally, I don't even have any clue why attendance is the problem that it is to begin with. I have no idea why fans aren't coming.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:21 AM) How does it help? Does any of our ideas of changing Crede's swing or trade suggestions get to the front office or coach's office? It helps because it's more logical than just saying our attendance sucks. It helps because sound arguments are presented as opposed to complaining about attendance. There is less tension on the board. Complaining about attendance when you live far away almost sounds like a personal attack on Sox fans who live here. It sometimes (not always) comes off as saying "Why aren't you doing your part?" Most of us on here do do our part. We had the same discussion on a DePaul message board. We came up with ideas and sent it to the school. There was far less bickering.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:14 AM) Sleepy White Sox The fact of the matter is that there is no single solution to why Crede bats the way he does either? Or the way Ozzie behaves either? Or the way Timo plays baseball either? None of us know the true reason there either? Should we stop speculating that too? This is a message board where opinions are solicited on everything White Sox. If there is one important factor that is responsible for whether this team can compete year after year, it will be $ and that will be based on attendance to a large degree. But the implication is that attendance CAN be changed, which it should, as opposed to Crede or Timo who are lost causes. We can't change how the players play, but critiquing is fair game. The original post essentially calls out White Sox fans. Most of us are doing our part. I ask again. Does anybody have a solution? At least b****ing about Crede and Timo usually brings about solutions such as trade scenarios, changing their swing, demoting, any way to get rid of them, etc... I'd like to see some examples of ways to fix the attendance problem instead of what sometimes just comes off as complaining.

To all those wanting to discuss attendance: What's your solution?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:03 AM) As are the other threads. Hell, why not just shutdown soxtalk.com since all the discussions are pointless? This is just as pointless as a Chavez thread or Timo Sucks, etc. thread. Maybe not pointless, but frustrating. The fact of the matter is that there is no single solution. Hell, none of us know the true reason either. It's all speculation as to why attendance is low. The frustrating part is that you're coming onto a forum where, like I said before, almost everybody goes to plenty of games. You're preaching to the choir.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:58 AM) I haven't attended 1 Sox game in my life. Does that make me a bad person? I hope you burn in hell. Edit: I read that wrong. "n't" I'm an idiot.

1. Attendance is as valid a discussion as b****ing about Oz, Crede, etc. 2. It's almost pointless because I would venture to guess that most who post here attend as many games as possible and are doing their part.

Great thread.