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QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) In other words, they're holding a full-scale firesale and don't expect to compete until 2020. They'll worry about the starting lineup for 2018 next winter. I'd say 2019 and 2018 if we are WAY ahead of schedule like the Cubs were. So far the first two moves are pretty incredible.

Holy s***. This is a haul for Eaton. I can't believe we got this much for him.

Up to S3E3 on TWD. Pretty good

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) Not only that, they surrender pick #11. The White Sox move up. Yes. Woo hoo!! Idiots

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:14 AM) Chapman reportedly has an offer of 92 million dollars and Melancon just got 62 million. Wade Davis is every bit as good but yeah he needs a clean bill of health. This of course hurts us for Robertson Well, those are free agent multi year contracts and this is his walk year. He is making 10 million this year. If he does come through healthy he's going to make a pretty nice contract next offseason. But still, I think Soler has much more value. I dont even think the Cubs need a closer.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:13 AM) Which sucks, I love Thad, but it's probably time for a change. Guys like Loving never developed like expected and this team is just stuck. I know its early still this year, but to regress like they have in the two games since they played their best game in two years (and lost) at UVA it just feels like last year all over again. They've missed on almost every recruiting class since 2011 except for one. It's either lack of identifying the right kids or not being able to develop them. Either way its bad

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:11 AM) 3 years, and somewhere around half a billion dollars in free agency. This is where we lack. The Cubs also hit on a ridiculous number of draft picks. Nobody could have predicted they would all produce like they have. Couple that with a couple of miracle trades and you can win a title.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:24 AM) That is f***ing insane. They are getting Wade Davis for Avi Garcia. 2014 Avi Garcia with better stats. So, not really.

I dont see how its a steal. One year of an injury plagued closer isnt worth all that much IMO. Soler has played 211 games Avi has played 409. So its like trading garcia 2 years ago, or when we thought he had tremendous value.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:20 AM) The whole time watching that game i was having flashbacks to the UT-Arlington game last year. I thought that loss was bad. This loss was 20x worse. He's trying to turn over the roster and bring in some guys that actually want to try, but I dont think he will last. This is probably his last year.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:49 AM) Another steal by Theo though. Why is it a steal? One year of a closer with arm issues? That's not tremendous value.

100% Thad is retiring after this season. He's toast anyway

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 07:35 PM) We got a few good prospects but this deal falls far short of what a good GM could get for Sale. They better be sure Moncada is a future all-star or this is one of the worst trades in franchise history.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 07:08 PM) Bad sign. But don't try to convince any of the people here who want to blow it all up just because that we got poor value. Watch us end up worse off than before in 4 years with no trade pieces. LOL, no its not. They are going to win the WS every offseason...

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) What, too much work for you?? @BNightengale The #WhiteSox getting besieged with calls now for Jose Quintana, but the Sox are expected to step back, catch breath, before dealing him Trying not to look desperate. The Stros and Nats can offer up the same package for Q.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) What else could the Sox have gotten? Dont fall into the Greg hole

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) The Sox totally f***ed the Nationals last night. KW hates Mike Rizzo. They either leaked to Rosenthal and Heyman or the Nats did after thinking they had something locked up. KW did the leaking

Love that we finally played teams off each other

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) Flip Q for the Nats package now? Toss in Eaton for more? Abreu to someplace Frazier/Melky/Robo dumped. Turn the old "core" of Sale/Q/Eaton/Abreu into 10-12 players with some stars. Turn the salary dumps into 5-6 players? IMO, Q is a HUGE prize for someone. He's worth a lot.

Finally the Sox figured out they need to rebuild and Sale was by far the most expendable high value player we have IMO. He's a pain in the ass in the clubhouse and is a possible injury waiting to happen. Perfect trade.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) I guess bows the time to make public something you've told me privately for years now LOL.

QUOTE (aboz56 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) If you want to read, link: http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads...rospects.16930/ They are kind of split, but definitely excited to have one of the best pitchers in baseball on their team.

QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:52 PM) No, I won't be. My Sox baseball consumption will be very low in 2017. I'll still peak in and take a look at what is going on, but I'm not watching much of the product in 2017. Is that unfortunate? Absolutely. BUT I also live in a realistic world and understand my two options were: - A very mediocre team that we have been watching for the last 10 years (73-82 wins a year) filled with veterans. - A true rebuilding team that will be BAD for 2-3 years, but with a purpose behind it. After what we have seen the last decade, PLEASE give me the latter. +1. I'll just play more golf, find something else to watch, I barely watched any games this season. They've tried the other way, it didnt work.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) Sale cut up jerseys because they were uncomfortable. And it was a pattern supposedly. One of those is slightly more insane, neither excusable. There is a reason they dangled Sale before Q.

I'm taking minor league K rates with a grain of salt after seeing what some of the Cubs players did. Its possible its not as important as initially thought