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QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) Out of curiosity, where did you hear Uribe was a team leader? From everything I've heard, Timo's basically his spokesperson. Watching him on the field, in the celebrations, and by speaking with members of the team. If thats the best thing that you want to debate then we have no debate. Uribe is a better value to me. Tejada makes ALOT more money, we have to worrry about budget and what we give up for Tejada. Uribe makes more sense for this midmarket team.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:17 AM) Okay, I can understand people not wanting to trade away McCarthy but worrying about losing Uribe when you are getting Tejada? No offence but that's ridiculous. How is that ridiculous? We are not the yankess, we have to worry about payroll. Uribe is a better value, he is young, he is cheap, he is a leader, he is the field general. I would rather have the team we have now, and Uribe than the team we would have with Tejada, bar none.

QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:01 AM) Jim, This is why I don't post anymore. Why in the world would we want the best shortstop in baseball and a top ten player in the game. We couldn't lose our precious Brandon Mcarthy. Why would we want to add payroll to get better players. Silly just silly I bet people were saying those sort of things when ranking the sox last year. And watching our hot streaks. "BUt they dont have any top ten players, where are the superstars". I think we have proven that names and status means NOTHING when putting together a team. Frankly I think that the balance of attitude, leadership, and building for the future was what helped us succeed. Now we are mortgaging our minor league system, trading away our bullpen strength, and now EVERYONE, including you, want to bring back overpriced mashers. NO THANKS!!! I would rather have my selfless, defensive team who won me a championship, thanks.

QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:40 AM) The O's have always known to covet big name players and overpay for them so maybe they would be interested in Garland instead of BMac. Garland is still very young (27?) so its not like they can't rebuild with him. Which prospects???? Having Tejada hitting out of the 3, 4 or 5 hole with Thome or Konerko would be unbelievable. But again we are becoming the recent Sox teams with station to station baserunners and power in the middle. Juan Uribe was great for us and it would suck to lose him but you're talking about Tejada here...this guys a stud. I would rather have Uribe. Uribe is a better value as a player, and as a clubhouse leader on this team. No way in hell would I pull off this terrible trade. If he pulls two horrible trades in two days, I will lose alot of confidence in his dealings.

QUOTE(kevin57 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:11 AM) I suspect it's not B-Mac that needs to be worrying. It's Garland. I should hope not. Garland was our best pitcher this year. He had numbers similar to the AL Cy Young winner.

I will say terrible, we didnt need the 6th starter, didnt need to get rid of another bullpen arm, and our best Minor Peague player.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:33 AM) Bruuuuuuce Levine (take it for what its worth) just said B-Mac, Juan Uribe, and prospects for Miguel Tejada... that'd be nuts. Uggggggh, if we trade Uribe for Tejada, and add a pitcher in the deal, we are getting hosed. Uribe is so much more valuable to this team, and we cannot trade away our pitching like that. We are already depleating our farm system this offseason, please lets not turn back into the 2004 whitesox!!!!!!

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) So can Brian Anderson. They also can move Jose or Jon. Talk about a six man rotation, wow. No, Chris Young would have been the CF'er and Anderson would have moved to a corner spot. Young was as cant miss as it gets in our system. He projects highly, and is loved by scouts and GMs alike. He is the next Mike Cameron with maybe a little more power. The guy had a chance to lead AAA in HR's next year, and maybe SB's. Do you still not care about him? Secondly, Viz was due for one of his good seasons next year. How many more times are we going to weaken our pen. BMAC isnt going to the pen, we are obviously trading one of our starters.

wow, i cant believe how much everyone is undervaluing Garland. He is a young innings eater. He was basically was untouchable for our hot streak last year and was lights out in the playoffs. He went to Anaheim and shut down the Angels on longer than usual rest. He is worth more to me than any other pitcher out there. He fits our mold great, and he is just now turning the corner on a young career. He is a great fit in our clubhouse, is close friends with our ACE, and seriously is more valuable to the team than Vazquez would ever be. The trade rumor is attrotious, and if it went down my opinion of KW's moves would take ahuge nosedive.

Seriously though, I need to rip DVDs not legal copies. I bought that program, and it should work right?

Fireplaces rule.

50 pics of majewski on that site http://itsasecretsohush.blogspot.com/2005/...ems-part-v.html

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QUOTE(SoCalSouthSider59 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) Glad to see im not alone on this. America will be less one scumbag after this guy is put out of his misery.

One of the funniest men who ever lived.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 02:14 PM) does he serve society more alive or dead? no doubt this guy did some horrific things in his past, but if he can help keep these things from happening to others in the future, then I say we leave him in a cell for life. So his years of "serving society" in prison make up for taking out SEVERAL lives that could've served society in many positive ways. Maybe he should have thought about the consequences of his actions before he murdered several people. Apparently he places no value on life, so it wouldnt be much of a problem when the gov't takes his life. Good riddance to an evil person.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) Speaking of which, the Carl Crawford thread is now at 15 pages. WHY NOT DAVID ORTIZ??????

QUOTE(Tmar28 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:27 PM) Smart world we live in. The way to stop violence and killing is... more violence and killing. hmmmm. Why do we kill people who have killed others? Guy got what is coming to him? It will make the victim's family happier? It will not, their loved one is still gone. Nothing can change that, and not more killing for sure. Quick, what is the best way to respond to violence? I guess we should believe it is violence. That is an awful precedent to set, that violence solves problems. Revenge is the only reason people want the killer dead. Oh man, if people as a whole start giving into their revengeful feelings, watch out. Everyone has wanted to get revenge, but to say in death row cases that revenge is all right is quite mindless. Do we really want the eye for an eye rule? You steal a loaf of bread from me, I steal bread or perhaps even something else from you. Pretty soon it would become you hurt me, I kill you. It goes downhill from there. You put a man behind bars for the rest of his life, he will regret what he did. He sees the same bars day in and day out and you are damn right he will realize that what he chose to do earlier took away his freedom. Now, isn't that what life is about? Learning. You kill that man, he will have learned nothing. Only possible thing he could have learned was that killing others makes others kill you. That is not right. He should instead be learning that life and freedom is precious, priceless. When he is in jail, he has nothing to do but think about what he has done. He will undoubtedly learn he has done wrong. What is on his mind when he is dead? The answer is nothing. What is on his mind when he is in jail every single day for the rest of his life? What he has done. That is a far worse punishment than anything else is. What gives the right to the government or anybody that they decide who should live and die? Nobody has the right to force his or her way on another person. The killer forced himself on the victims. Nevertheless, the government ends up doing the same and forces itself on the killer. Way to stoop down to his level. I commend you. What is the purpose of "making him learn his lesson"? He will be in jail for the rest of his life, learning not to kill. Well thank god we have inprisoned a killer so he can sit in jail and learn his lesson so that when he dies in jail eventually, he can know that at least what he has done was wrong. So we give him a longer time until we kill him, but at least, maybe, he gets to think about it? Please. Do you think Dahmer would have really thought about it, Gacy, etc. Come on. Have you even been to prison? Have you seen where lifers live? Some prisons even let the inmate have a nice TV in their cell to catch up on current events. How nice. When someone takes another innocent person's life, do you really think they deserve to sit around for the next 60 years, and think about it? Some of these guys have been in prision multiple times, and have more friends inside than out, so they have a chance to kill someone, whats the worst thing that can happen? They get to go back to a place they have been before, and stay there longer? Wow, what a deterrent. I for one am glad that we can use our tax money to make these killers "think about it" for the next 60 years, because they deserve that much, I mean how bad is killing a person anyway?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) Eh, I don't know anything about game systems. But I think all PS2's should be able to handle a burn. Check into it. It may also be as simple as the brand of media you are using. I dunno, I wouldnt think it was my burning software as it was highly regarded in serveral reviews. I will try in on my other DVD players and find out if that is the issue.

Gio is a serious talent who looks like he is the next coming of a stud pitcher. he was easily the best arm we had in our system last year. But you have to think there was a reason that we gave him up instead of others in that deal. Haig has control issues, and Gio has durability issues and his motion could make him injury prone. Im sure that these issues were more serious than we think, and I would trust Dave W to make the correct read on these players. Also A-row going into his prime?? Looks to me like he already had his prime, and no is regressing, remember he was no more than a reserve corner OF'er 3 years ago in our system.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) Probably a player that can read DVD-R or DVD+R. If you have an older player, it won't read the discs. Any new player will be able to read it. Ah, I think it just didnt work in my PS2, could that be the issue?

Can someone please explain to me how celebs can justify keeping this guy from the death penalty? The guys has contributed and personally killed several people in his life, did those celebs ask the parents and relatives of the victims if it was ok with them if he lived? I dont understand getting behind a killer just because he may have reformed himself a bit. Great, hes better now, I guess we can go ahead and forget about the lives that he took... WTF is wrong with people?

Dont worry about the rules, I have no idea what im doing and it seem to be working ok

Seriously, why is this still going on? Its not happening, its been run out of arguments in trade winds. Seriously, WHY NOT PUJOLS????

If only you could spend more time on the board............