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Randar, In your opinion, out of all of the prospects, excluding BMAC and BA, which ones are most likely to come up and contribute and possibly have a shot at making the big club.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) Good for the Card fans! Good for Rooney! but I could NOT imagine him calling a game. umm, I will give it a shot. Kind of like going to the dentist, and hearing that drill?

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) Great for Cards fans, terrible for Sox fans. f***!!!! I was holding on to the hope that he would come back.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) How in the world can we even think about Furcal? The guy's gonna get $10-13 mil per, there's no way we can afford both that and $12-16 mil per for a hitter with power. Even if you fit it in somehow, you're locking up $25 mil per (maybe more) for 4-5 years, which will annihilate your flexibility, especially when you're talking about (say) Furcal and Konerko -- good players, but not among the best in the majors. So you have to try to find a younger, cheaper hitter with power. There's no guarantee you'll find any, but if you do, it will cost you pitching (and no, I don't mean Marte). So we'd f up the part of this team that carried us to a WS win to improve our ss's obp by 50 points? Have you forgotten in one year what a real 5th starter looks like? I dont think anyone is realistically thinking about Furcal, at least im not. uribe is of greater value to this org, and I think he will be overall as well.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) That is exactly what I expected to see. Simply put, the Sox can't send Rowand to New York without their being a third party involved. Kenny was dead-on. Those moves simply don't match-up. Would this be the move bringing in the powerhitting 1B to the Sox in Konerko's absence with a third party? Never know. i cant even fathom a trade that would make it. A-row and Marte to NYY for Wang to Brew Crew for Overbay? I cant seem to think of anything that is not xbox worthy

If the angels go after Manny they wont go after Kong IMO.

I wonder if this has any effect on the demand and suitors for Kong INDIAN WELLS, Calif. -- The Boston Red Sox might not find many takers for Manny Ramirez, even though the slugger hit 45 homers and had 144 RBI last season. Manny Ramirez Left Field Boston Red Sox Profile 2005 SEASON STATISTICS GM HR RBI R OBP AVG 152 45 144 112 .388 .292 The Chicago White Sox? Not interested. "He's not that kind of guy," Ken Williams, general manager of the World Series champions, said Thursday. "We have a certain kind of chemistry." Point made. Boston will not be dealing Ramirez to Chicago. Ramirez asked Boston to explore trade options because he's uncomfortable living there. How about Philadelphia? New Phillies GM Pat Gillick said there's no room for the 33-year-old Ramirez in his outfield, which has Bobby Abreu in right and Pat Burrell in left. "Our corners are pretty good," Gillick said. "In high school he played center, but I don't think he can play center anymore." Last July, the Red Sox and New York Mets held trade talks about Ramirez, and both sides agreed they didn't get very far. The Los Angeles Angels, who want a power hitter, could be a match. Perhaps Ramirez would want to return to the Cleveland Indians, his former team. Ramirez is owed $57 million during the next three years and has the right to block trades, so the Red Sox and his agent pledged to work together. General managers completed the formal part of their meetings Thursday, delaying until their December meeting in Dallas a decision on whether to move back the amateur draft until late June. Jimmie Lee Solomon, executive vice president for baseball operations in the commissioner's office, said commissioner Bud Selig was asked during Wednesday's sessions whether he expected any change in the designated hitter rule, which is used in the American League but not in the National. "He said for the foreseeable future we'll be doing the same thing we have been doing," Solomon said. During the week, GMs bandied about big names for possible deals, including Ramirez, Florida first baseman Carlos Delgado, Texas second baseman Alfonso Soriano and Tampa Bay closer Danys Baez. Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said teams always are interested in right-hander Chien-Ming Wang and second baseman Robinson Cano, rookies who performed well last season with low salaries. "That's what November, December and January are for, exploration of the possibilities of big ideas, big trades, transformations of rosters," Red Sox president Larry Lucchino said. Starting Friday, 183 free agents will be able to negotiate contracts with all teams. The final seven eligible players filed Thursday night, including Houston's seven-time Cy Young Award winner, Roger Clemens. The market could go up significantly for relief pitchers, who appear to be coveted. While closers such as Billy Wagner and B.J. Ryan figure to get big money, there's likely to be a trickle-down to setup men such as left-hander Scott Eyre and right-hander Bobby Howry. "Everybody needs pitching. There's not a lot of pitchers out there," Gillick said. "So supply and demand." Because of the relative lack of depth in the free-agent market, many teams are exploring trades first. "People are being very aggressive and getting right to the point as to what they are willing to do and what they're not willing to do," Williams said. While the Yankees are seeking a center fielder and setup men, their immediate goal is to re-sign left fielder Hideki Matsui, whose contract says he must be put on unconditional release waivers if he doesn't agree to a new deal by Tuesday. "We've got to the 15th to try to get something done," Cashman said. "In the meantime, I'm gathering all the information about what the available players on the trade market and the free-agent market are. We'll prioritize those. In the event on Nov. 16 we don't have Hideki Matsui, it will be another avenue to pursue." Mets general manager Omar Minaya said he planned to be aggressive and probably would start making offers to free agents Friday. He said it is likely New York won't trade Mike Cameron. "If I had to guess right now, I see him as my right fielder," he said.

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QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) Something interseting my freind form NY sent me... we always talk about minor leaguers and this weekend we were talking about pitchers and I brought up Gios' name up and he was clearly upset ... and replied ... "dont go there" we talked about him for brief minute, or should I say i talked about Gio... then he sent me a email with this link... interesting stuff. http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=83761 Yeah, but they would have dealt him for someone old and washed up anyway.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) Well if it improves the team then yes you have to do it. I was just saying, I would hate for him to leave but if the right offer came up then yes. It would be VERY painful for me as well, the guy is awesome. huge Bears fan, really a reflection of chicago's character.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) I really like Rowand even though he might not be my favorite player, but to see him go would hurt. Kinda like Olivo departure was. Sure Anderson has higher upside (so I've heard) but Rowand leaving would suck. Plus it would split the three stooges up!! Yeah, and look how that trade turned out for us. Giving away a decent player who is a fan favorite really sucks, but it could turn out to be a better value for us. Who knows, but if A-row would net us someone like Delgado, I would take it.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) Uh oh. Here we go again. (takes cover, waits for Rock's volley) Furcal is a better player overall, is he a good fit, no. He is probably the best player on the FA market, and will get a Renteria contract. Which player would YOU rather have, a young developing SS who hit over 300 over the last stretch of the season, and has really turned into a field leader, or the highest priced position player on a FA market, with character problems. Honestly, I would rather have Uribe, but Furcal is undoubtedly a better player.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) :sleep Post #22.. You know I cant speak Green.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) That's the one he's marrying. Seriously? Wasnt aware, nice girl, better chicken wraps though.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/battin...&hand=a&pos=all It's not inconceivable for the White Sox to spend the $$$ in acquiring a speedy SS & moving Uribe to 3B. But it's pretty obvious that such a move would say goodbye to Kong & possibly Crede. Why move a GG SS just to get a fast guy on the field? It makes no sense, Uribe has proven that he is an elite fielder at that position, not many can touch him.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) If he hasn't gotten his hair cut yet.. tell him Alex told him to. Sorry Steff, his GF likes it.

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) Met Mark Buehrles girlfriend, she is a hottie...nice tush, then i met MArk he's a good guy old GF, or current? I met his old one a while ago when she worked at the Neutral Zone.

Drink with Neal Cotts at a bar I used to work at all the time. I just did some shots with him 2 weekends ago, and told him that Keith Foulke has nothing on him.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 08:39 AM) Paper bag anyone? shes about a six pack. Horrible dancer though, i wonder how she is going to look at the Bing.

Do you think the curtains match the drapes?

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 08:42 PM) why all this owens talk? chris young had 30 steals in AA as well and hes s much better prospect. Young isnt really a prototypical #2 hitter, he hits with lower avg and more power potential. The spot we were discussing was a replacement in the #2 hole and Owens being a possible in org replacement, does that help?

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 08:47 AM) Here's the full article: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/13139707.htm This is the most telling excerpt: "Rowand is a natural center fielder and impressed the Yankees - and most other teams - with his strong reads and gliding strides into the gaps. The White Sox have a budding prospect in 23-year-old Brian Anderson and are strongly thinking about giving him a chance in the majors this year, giving them some room to move on the trade market. Unfortunately for the Yankees, they are looking for a bat to replace departed DH Carl Everett, and the Yanks' biggest surplus is in starting pitching." If Konerko leaves, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Marlins trade Juan Pierre to the Cubs and then accept a package of Rowand, Marte, and prospects for Carlos Delgado. Brian Anderson would then take over center field. Kenny really seems to want a #3 power-hitting lefty for the lineup next year. If this happened, I think Kenny would bring back Frank at a cheap contract with Gload backing him up in case of another injury. Sign Mike Myers to replace Marte and we are set. Podsednik Iguchi Delgado Frank Dye Pierzynski Crede Uribe Anderson That's not a bad lineup, imo. I agree with almost everything you said as a distinct possibilty. Other than having Gload be the backup, thats just not goingto happen as much as we would like it to. Oh and Uribe should always hit last.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 07:52 AM) The NY Daily News article said that the Sox were looking for a bat to replace Everett. Anyone think that if Pierre is moved, Rowand could be included in a possible deal for Delgado? Yup. they mentioned that today. We have interest in Thome, Delgado, and Tod Helton they said on the radio.

nice fakies.

Carpenter is good and all, but Clemens should have gotten the award. Much better pitcher last year IMO