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NCAA basketball thread 2016-17
RockRaines replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 23, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) These guys both likely play this year, which is why I am sick about it. I just think about all the good guys who would love to play Illinois basketball and these lowlifes are taking roster spots. Almost every Illinois fan I talk to wants Nunn off the team. -
I got my guys all Adidas track suits since our wedding was on new years and everyone was lounging the next day.
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QUOTE (Brian @ May 23, 2016 -> 10:41 AM) I think it was intentional but I don't think there is definite proof to suspend him for a big playoff game. Green has turned into a big crybaby this season. Or maybe I'm just noticing. He did go to East Lansing. It was so obvious it was intentional.
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If your guys have been in weddings before dont get them that stupid flask thing from the groomsman store. I threw away my last two. Tux rental place has that catalog with everything you can get and everyone gets the same stuff.
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QUOTE (shipps @ May 20, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) Maybe if airlines starting charging for carry-on's INSTEAD of charging for check-in bags we can alleviate people having all these damn bags for carry-on and lines will go a hell of a lot faster. Spirit already does this, so you can fly that airline if you want.
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QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ May 20, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) I love how he's mixing speeds. Even though he's got the heat, he doesn't rely on it. I swear one of his curves/changes last night clocked at 77. Can't say for sure, but I thought I saw that. He's "pitching" and not "throwing." With his arm, no wonder he's 9-0. hes throwing more to contact. Changing speeds on all of his pitches and not worrying about perfect location all the time. Its a great recipe.
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Hell of a pitching duel. Both guys were on last night.
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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 19, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) What did you study? For me I just need to take a break, work for like a year, pay some bills, and get back into the fray. I can't really make ends meet with the salary they pay. Child Psychology. I couldnt take the clinical grind, part of it was I started right after I graduated and I was burned out.
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NCAA basketball thread 2016-17
RockRaines replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Might as well crown Duke national champs now. -
Good for you dude, I didnt even last a year in a PHD program.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) 3. There are WAY more examples of bad ethics being protected by fan bases, while the legal system does their jobs to the best of their ability. I dont understand that statement. What do you mean by protecting "bad ethics"? If they get charged and prosecuted per your second sentence thats a good thing and the fans cannot do anything about it.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:32 AM) I know you keep harping on those three schools, but the problems are WAY bigger than that, which is primarily my point. It is all about protecting your team at all costs. Sure, but those are three good examples of the legal system taking part in active coverups, at least that we know of.
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) It's all about money and success. If Penn State was Illinois on the football field back then, all of it would have been exposed. Maybe true. Joe Paterno running an entire town was most of the issue. PSU is also located in a backwards hick town that is pretty isolated from the rest of the world. QUOTE (Tex @ May 19, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) Colleges have been under reporting crimes for centuries. Athletes are just one group that has benefited. It took the Clery Act in 1990 to force universities to start reporting. Eastern Michigan has received the highest fine to date for an act that no one talks about. Why is Penn State talked about more? Because athletics are involved. So perhaps claiming that athletes are being covered up for may not be accurate. It is far easier for universities to cover up crimes not involving athletics because people do not care enough about low profile students. Universities want parents and prospective students to believe their campus is safe. Marketing puts the best face on that as they can. High profile cases are hardest to cover up. Athletics may actually do more to uncover these acts than to cover them. Could be a great point. We know things like sexual assault on college campuses is a HUGE problem but it goes largely unreported in major media outlets unless an athlete is involved. However, the chance of it never actually being reported or investigated goes up if it is a high profile athlete. Double edged sword there.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) The money to sustain things comes from the fan bases. Without that, the local support system doesn't matter. For example, if alumni and fan pressure had actually come on the Paterno's, this would have been done a long time ago. Instead they are protected, so the community at large protects them. It all traces back to the fan bases desire to win, and the money that flows from that. The community stuff is secondary out of a desire to protect their cash cow. Sure, but the legal system and law enforcement in theory should be above all of that noise, especially when it comes to the crimes that have been committed at PSU, FSU and Baylor. I understand community folks and schools protecting student athletes as their cash cow but somewhere there has to be a line drawn between that an the law. In larger cities I expect it to be less of a problem than some of the smaller college towns but even that hasnt been 100% true. Its awful, especially when alot of these issues are related to sexual assault.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2016 -> 07:25 AM) The problem starts with the fan bases. If they didn't completely care only about winning, some of the other stuff might matter. Too many college teams are win blind to everything else... Cheating, recruiting problems, etc, don't matter as long as a team wins. They will defend or explain away their programs activities, and go pitbull after another. If people held their own schools to the highest standards, things would change, as schools would be forced into it. Instead money only follows winning, so guess where the incentive is? In those cases its not the "fan base" in the traditional sense, its the community and mostly law enforcement. At FSU, PSU and Baylor, the legal system and law enforcement have been active participants in either ignoring crimes or covering them up entirely. The community as a whole knows that they live and die by the football team's success and therefor its a culture issue, PSU especially. At FSU, law enforcement literally has been a major factor in players not being charged or investigated for crimes they commit. Baylor has shown us that in Waco they have a cover up culture regarding anything around the football team. Thats a much larger issue than fan bases defending programs or even NCAA violations.
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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 19, 2016 -> 07:29 AM) Why wouldn't he be an everyday player? Too good maybe?
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 19, 2016 -> 06:31 AM) Yea, "college sports presidents" arent puppets. They are businessmen. They make terrible decisions to keep money rolling in Also taking away scholarships for all athletes is laughable.
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QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ May 19, 2016 -> 05:08 AM) I wish Jay Bruce would cool off a bit and his price tag may come down. I know Eaton has been stellar in RF but I think the team would be much better with Bruce in RF, Eaton in CF, and Jackson to the 4th OF role to which he is better suited. No. Eaton is much better in RF and Jackson is a stellar CF. the defense needs to stay at that high level period.
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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 19, 2016 -> 06:14 AM) Think he means athletic directors. I guess. Well luckily his next sentence is even more ridiculous.
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QUOTE (Deadpool @ May 19, 2016 -> 12:12 AM) I honestly wish it weren't true. I wish colleges could get past the athletics money and deal with the behavioral issues. Baylors case is a lot like FSU where the problem is actually more in local law enforcement and the legal system. Waco had a culture of covering up and has for a long time. The police have taken it in their own hands to make sure nothing happens to the players. This is not the case in every city where a prominent football team is.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2016 -> 11:29 PM) I wish college sports presidents weren't puppets and would clean up college sports. A good start would be to take away all athletic scholarships for four years and just see what athletes want to play for what schools. I know ... too late to do something like that. ESPN and the other networks would cry bloody murder; fatcat alums who build the practice gyms and renovate the football stadiums and build the luxury dorms would cry bloody murder. I'd do it like the Ivy League ... no athletic scholarships, none. Let the pros be the pros. As far as scandals go, I would say the Penn State situation was the worst one of all time by far. Those poor victims of the defensive coordinator. Sick and sad. I'm sure he's paying the price in prison. What is a college sports president?
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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:51 PM) What's mark buehrle up to? Not pitching nor caring about pitching
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QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2016 -> 08:48 PM) Why is he still in. Coaching staff just hasn't recovered either from last Tuesday Coop is asleep. He's been awful with these guys lately including calling pitches and scouting.
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Coop has really been terrible lately. Do your job
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Good at bat. Hit it hard.