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  1. I cant even count how many times I have had this discussion with my gf. "I understand the sox come before me (bait)" "Thats how its always going to be, sorry." "why are they so important." "sorry, what did you say, that was a big DP"
  2. QUOTE(Kenkait Sox Fan @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) The Sox players should all take examples from Ozuna & Blum and continue to play hard on all plays. A lesson that Uribe and Dye could learn from. welcome to soxtalk
  3. QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 07:52 PM) has he replied?? no reply.
  4. QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Hermanson healthy and this bullpen is sick next season. Vizcaino, Cliff and Marte are your 6th inning guys. I beleive they are all signed. $24M can be spent elsewhere. We have 5 guys that can close right now (Cliff, Marte, Neil, Jenks and Hermanson) if they are throwing strikes and Viz if he is on is no fool out there. This is why I like Cooper and Oz b****ing about the walks if these guys throw strikes they are good, all of them, we have seen this. dont forget that Viz is an every other year guy, this was somewhat of a down year for him. I fully expect dominance next year.
  5. QUOTE(Y2HH @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) Are you Bat Girl? hahahah, nice
  6. http://www.bat-girl.com/ check out the entry about MB selling his soul to the devil.
  7. what is he doing, write your own caption on this strange pic from yesterday.
  8. the more I hate Timo, the better he does. I will continue to hate him as long as he wins games for us.
  9. QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) What conversation? dont start. IM not jinxing us again.
  10. QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) I wouldn't discount Cotts from that role at all. I do, however, think Jenks has the potential to be great where Cotts I'd say somewhat short of that. cotts is going to be a sweet 8th inning guy IMO. Cotts, then jenks is the combo that we should look for. 2 different looks, 2 differnt arm angle and 2 different sets of stuff.
  11. QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) my favorite line of the article... Wow a family of 4 and soon to be 5 has no choice but to own a SUV? Funny, I don't remember seeing any SUV's in the 50's, 60's, 70's or 80's. there must not have been 4-5 members of a family back then. How was the gas consumption of those boats back then?
  12. QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 06:42 PM) i've got season tickets and we sell the green bay game on ebay cuz it racks in the cash. ditto go bucks
  13. QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) All I know is that the last time the playoff rotation was discussed, we lost about 7 games from our lead in two weeks. good point, im done with this conversation.
  14. QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 09:48 AM) i wouldnt mind seeing freddy in game 2, simply because hes been there before and he will probably be pitching in the day. even with garlands exceptional year this year, i still am a little more leary when he is on the mound, at least more so than freddy Nope, not if we are at home. Garland is good at home, and freddy isnt.
  15. Friday, August 26, 2005 White Sox rookie with 100 mph arm trying to put away troubled past By JON PAUL MOROSI SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER Bobby Jenks stands 6 feet 3, weighs 270 pounds, and has a right arm that triggers the third digit on radar guns. He spends his winters with in-laws near the Bothell-Kenmore line. He trains at the Northwest Baseball Academy in Lynnwood. He consults with Mark Potoshnik, the coach who recruited him from an Idaho cabin at age 18 to play summer baseball for the Seattle Bombers. By now, Jenks is somewhat of a local. You might have seen him around or heard the stories about him -- good or bad. Either way, he makes an impression. His baseball career is young, but old enough to have oscillated between potential greatness and potential disaster. His Stuff and That Other Stuff. One is brilliant beyond debate. The other is a constant source of questions, speculation and rehashed history. For the time being, at least, he cannot simply be a power pitcher with a 100-plus fastball and scary curve. He is a power pitcher with a 100-plus fastball and scary curve who once drank in the general direction of hardball oblivion. Jenks will be at Safeco Field tonight. His new team, the Chicago White Sox, looks like the 2001 Mariners, clubhouse karma included. Jenks, who earned his first career save Thursday night and has a 2.79 ERA in 14 appearances, declined an interview request for this story. He knows that mention of his success is often couched in the context of previous shortcomings. His reputation is largely unfavorable -- and perhaps unduly earned. His behavior has not injured others, near as anyone can tell. He is only 24, placing most of his transgressions in an age range common to college students, a demographic often cited for its alcoholic buffoonery. Yet, while those who frequent fraternity parties might not have a public profile, Jenks is a known commodity. So is his story, for better or worse. Worse, mostly. "That's very frustrating to me," Potoshnik said. "The minor leagues are littered with 19-year-olds making stupid mistakes. He never really did anything wrong. "A couple times, he had a couple too many drinks. That's all. But people hold you to a higher standard when you're blessed with talent." Low risk, high reward Why is he here now? He should be the opening act for Scot Shields and Francisco Rodriguez in the Los Angeles Angels bullpen. The Angels, after all, drafted him in the fifth round of the 2000 draft. They loved His Stuff, but after five years were not as fond of That Other Stuff. So, as a busy offseason necessitated room on the 40-man roster, they waived Jenks in mid-December. At that point, the White Sox, along with every other team in baseball, had 48 hours to decide whether to claim him. Chicago scouts had turned in positive reports on Jenks for three years. His Stuff was not the issue. It never had been. Still, crucial questions persisted. One had a straightforward answer. The other did not. First, they inquired about the health of his arm. He pitched only five times last season because of an elbow injury. It required massive surgery. By last offseason, though, it checked out. He was OK. After that, they examined his personal past, a sticky-thick history of potential deal-breakers and non-starters. Most revolved around empty bottles. The White Sox had heard the stories of his alcohol-related misdeeds. A 2003 ESPN The Magazine story recounted instances of drunken belligerence and recklessness. Once, he burned his pitching hand with a lighter, suggesting a stunning disregard for the gift that might make him a rich man. Clearly, he had a history. Twenty-nine teams wondered if he would keep it as such. Ultimately, Chicago concluded Jenks was worth the $20,000 waiver claim and league-minimum salary. Rick Hahn, the assistant general manager, described it as a "low-risk, high-reward proposition." So far, returns are positive. Jenks recently told the Chicago Tribune that he no longer binge drinks. On the field, he has been versatile, reliable and cheap -- three beautiful words in middle relief. Best of all, he is still a rookie. He could pitch in Chicago for years. "We hope so," Hahn said. "That's the high-reward side of the low risk." Continued support Still, you wonder how they feel about him -- people like Matt Sosnick, the agent Jenks fired after he was demoted to rookie ball; Mike Butcher, his rookie-level pitching coach; and Doug Sisson, the Double-A Arkansas manager who suspended him in 2002. In the ESPN story, Jenks said he nearly came to blows with Sisson over his desire to bring alcohol onto the team bus. This week, however, Sisson downplayed the incident. He said it "wasn't close" to a physical confrontation. And, over and over, Sisson said how happy he was to see Jenks in the majors. "He is where he wants to be. He should be credited for that," said Sisson, now an assistant coach at the University of Alabama. "That's what should be written about. The other stuff is old news. "If he was flipping burgers now, if he had never figured it out, then you could condemn him. But it's obvious. He stepped back. He turned it around. He did it." Jenks and Butcher, the former pitching coach, remain close. After Jenks was selected to the All-Star Futures Game, he called Butcher. After he made his big-league debut, he called Butcher. "He's a very good kid," said Butcher, now the Angels' roving pitching instructor. "I have nothing bad to say about him, nothing at all. "Bobby has matured. That's the biggest thing. He's married, two kids. It was time for him to grow up, make better choices. He's doing that now." Jenks fired Sosnick as his agent three years ago, and has had four others represent him since. Sosnick said he "doesn't really know" Jenks anymore. Enough time has passed, though, that Sosnick bears no grudge over the split. "I'm pretty neutral," Sosnick said. "I don't root for him. I don't root against him. But in life, I do root for him. "Bobby went through a lot. He didn't have it easy coming up. I had it easier. I don't think I'm one to throw stones at his house." Sox a good fit Jenks fits, somehow, with the character of this White Sox team. GM Kenny Williams has fashioned a winning roster out of purported malcontents (Carl Everett, A.J. Pierzynski) and supposed never-will-bes (Jose Contreras, Scott Podsednik). Jenks, as perception had it, was a little of Column A, a little of Column B. If anything, the negative perception might enable Jenks to fit in more easily among teammates. "They know that, here's a guy who is being given a second chance, like many of the guys in our clubhouse," Hahn said. "I don't know if anyone knows, or quite candidly cares, about specific instances. "They've welcomed this guy. He has an opportunity. He's trying. Guys relate to him." It helps, of course, that he can throw a ball 101 mph. Many agree with an account that he hit 103 in Puerto Rico. Butcher was not there, but does not doubt that it happened. Butcher has never questioned Jenks' stuff. It is grade A, big-league closer cut -- along with the edge to record the final out in a one-run game. Now, the harsh words Jenks once heard are fading with each appearance. Success, after all, has a way of writing a favorable sort of revisionist history. "Obviously, things happened in his past," Butcher said. "You move on. You grow up. You mature. You try to get better. He's moved on. "Whether the public view is different," he added, "I have no idea." P-I reporter Jon Paul Morosi can be reached at 206-448-8189 or [email protected].
  16. QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 12:07 AM) Thanks to those of you that have already donated! Keep in mind, as of now all money will go back into the Soxtalk/FS duo unless you specify you want it to go to Jason's date fund. If you've ever seen his face, you know why he needs money. A lot of it. banned, not in green.
  17. QUOTE(GoSoxGo @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) What's the difference between Bellhorn striking out and Crede popping it up to the infield? An out is an out. At least Bellhorn will draw a lot of walks and hit a few doubles and homers. GoSoxGo=125 posts about Bellhorn Agenda...No!!
  18. I dont understand how this is a debate, even about who is the best pitcher etc. Its a simple numbers game. MB-2.99 1.16 JG- 3.28 1.16 FG- 3.54 1.23 Thats the order of the first three starters, and it should not be altered. Those are your three best pitchers in order. AS far as the 4th game, that is the only debate. I would go for the count because his stats are better, but El Duque may step it up in the playoffs, but for now, the top three are set.
  19. QUOTE(GoSoxGo @ Aug 26, 2005 -> 03:40 AM) Bellhorn got injured with a sprained thumb and struggled to hit so he was placed on the DL. The Red Sox traded for Tony Graffanino as a replacement and he is currently playing way above his head so they have no need for Bellhorn now. Look at Bellhorn's stats last season for Boston. They also speak for itself. Bellhorn does not possess the glove that Crede has but he is damn sure better at the plate. Crede couldn't sniff the OBP that Bellhorn can put up. There you go, you already proved why we arent going to get bellhorn. His defense at 3rd base sucks. Ozzie will not have it, and if he doesnt want him, we wont get him. Its not even worth discussing.
  20. QUOTE(redandwhite @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 05:55 PM) Whats so comical about this entire thing with Crede is that alot of times people will discard how bad a players been by simply looking at a certain month that he excellend in; there is no such month for Joe Crede. The guy is hornary, won't shortern his swing, and is an automatic out. But he does play some solid defense :headshake Im not sure you would know what solid defense is at this point. Crede has been playing gold glove caliber defense for the sox for years now. Where have you been? Watching Manny cut off the cut off?
  21. QUOTE(GoSoxGo @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 06:15 PM) Budget? Bellhorn was designated for assignment and the season is almost over. It would only cost us $725,000 to claim him. That doesn't seem like a lot of money to me if Crede has a broken finger or wrist that will make him miss the rest of the season. http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...557&format=text By the way, Bellhorn isn't exactly a "masher." He draws walks and hits doubles and a few homeruns. Crede is more of a "masher" than Bellhorn is. I would rather see Bellhorn's bat and OBP at the bottom of our lineup than either Crede's or Blum's. If Crede's hand is truly injured and he is going to miss an extended period of time, I would be claiming Bellhorn off waivers right about now. With Matt Smith being outrighted to Charlotte, we do have the extra space on the 40-man roster to claim him. You are an idiot. Read my post. Mashers, Meaning A-rod, Sheffield, Manny, Ortiz, etc. These are mashers we cant afford. I never ever would lump Bellhorn in with that group. He is a castoff player who is not wanted by anyone at this point. His plan to Japan is boarding soon.
  22. 5k?? I can get SQL for cheaper than that, legit.
  23. QUOTE(ISF @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Blum should be starting at 3B. I don't care how good Crede's defense is at 3B, you need to be able to get a hit once in a while to be a regular in this league. he is in a slump, thats for sure. But you have to admit. He is due, and I want him to be out there when he breaks out of it. Heres to hoping sept is one of Joe's "on" months.
  24. QUOTE(kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) When you people hit refresh 15 bazillion times to find out what happens in a game thread, you get too many connections. Trust me, the server's fine. Waaaay fine. It's the database and the response time from it. I do content mgmt for some of the largest companies in the world, if you would like some help.........
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