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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) We'll see. I happen to think all three players we gave up are certain big leaguers. Trayce is a STAR defensive player. He's AMAZING with the glove. Micah still could be special. He could be. Montas could be special. He could be. Trayce cant hit, Michah cant field or stay healthy. Montas could be a pen arm. Thats why your responses are off. Overvaluing these players is pretty strange.

I am pretty certain we are going to add another OF bat.

Shocker, Greg thinks trading fringe big league players is overpaying.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Except we didn't really trade "the future". We traded flawed players that needed a lot to go right to be "the future". The Future is still here in Anderson, Fulmer, and Adams. If anyone is upset about trading Thompson and Johnson then you need to use google a bit more. Thompson is less promising than Brian Anderson was.

Offensively we've fixed quite a bit, and I also believe an improvement defensively in the infield. We still need to get one more OF to be competitive.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) It needs to be repeated every four posts or so, because it's that important: If this is not followed by the acquisition of a good outfielder, it is a horrible trade. LOL, why? We gave up next to nothing for an excellent middle of the order 3B with plus D.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) Farm systems are for trades for the most part. You keep your special guys. which is exactly what they did here.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:23 PM) 3. We gave up 3 dynamic players. Thompson is a great defender, Micah has that speed, Montas has the big fastball. These guys were all set to the contribute in different, meaningful ways and instead the Sox dealt them for the same exact kind of player we've seen every offseason since 2005. You could copy this post from a few years ago and interject Brian Anderson, Jerry Owens and pick a pen arm. Thats about what I think of the prospects we traded. Of course Brian Anderson's numbers were WAY better than Trayce Thompsons in the minors.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:25 PM) Man the people at 670 The Score really REALLY disrespect the White Sox. And Boers and Bernstein aren't even on yet. 670 tries their hardest to be extreme in their opinions, its trash radio, stay away.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Agreed. It's refreshing for Hahn to sell high on a guy like Thompson instead of sitting on him until he's no longer a viable bargaining piece. He's already 24 and sitting on him another year or two and he has little to no value as a 4th OF, they sold super high.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) who would you rather have?? Saladino and Sanchez or Frazier and Lawrie in your lineup???? Its going to be Saladino/Frazier and Lawrie so I dont understand the question.

QUOTE (Getupstretch39 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) What does Montas project to be? Top of rotation guy? IMO middle to bottom or back of the pen.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:53 AM) All three guys are easily replaceable with major flaws. A defensive shortstop is key. Reds seemed to get hosed in this deal. Cespades does not cost a pick. Personally Cargo would be the guy. Send Garcia to AAA to try and build value. If Laroche can produce, bonus, if not, release him move cabrerra to DH and Avi to left after playing there in spring and at AAA. in their minds the Reds got a top 100 prospect controlled for forever.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) @courtney883 I have also heard from many credible sources that the #WhiteSox are still not done. A move in the outfield could be next. Yep. I dont see them augmenting SS as much as the OF.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) That is a good way to put it. All have potential, but need a lot to go right to hit that level. We held on to our guys that have the highest odds to be starters (IMO) and we have a bunch of picks in the draft that should be upper level talents. I still think the Sox are bringing in ONE more OF

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:49 AM) Im gonna disagree with that, September hot bats have stuck the Sox with some s***ty players the following season. Josh Fields and Jerry Owens i am looking at you At least Owens hit decent in the minors, Thompson out performed his minor league numbers by quite a bit.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) Montas is the only thing of real value. Sucks for him too because he's probably most valuable on the White Sox. True, and its not that much value anyway. We held on to our top prospects and pulled in a middle of the order bat. Micah and Trayce were bench players/ultility guys at best. Whats not to like?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) You end up with supplemental property taxes in those areas (like the mella roos I was referring to in California). The areas with newer property and better schools / infastructure have them and it stays specifically in that area so those who pay the tax, get the benefit for the tax. Yeah I'd assume that would be the case everywhere here if something more extreme ever passed. People are willing to pay a premium to live in nice areas with nice schools.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 08:14 AM) The difference being that the players would get vilified for quitting on the program. f*** Bo Ryan anyway.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) I've noticed at night my internet speeds, specifically Youtube seems to suffer long load times and constant buffering. Right now, my download speed is registering at 21D/4U Is it Youtube, or my ISP? What causes these issues? What browser are you using? On my imac my chrome browser sucks at watching streaming videos as it has constant judder while firefox is smooth as ice.

The large benefit to having one state budget for all schools is that (like Indiana) your property taxes go way down and sometimes are even capped. This is what gets a lot of these bills passed. However, i think what cannot be ignored is that many people are ok with having to pay outrageous property tax for the benefit of having great schools. Illinois is trying to find that balance between the amount that should go in the bucket while allowing local districts to tax their residents more for better quality education. Most likely thats why the formula they use for disbursement is so difficult to understand.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 07:53 AM) This is what Indiana does. I believe Indiana also supplements costs for local schools with local taxes like sales tax etc. I'm not sure Indiana's spending model is anything that should be used as a model though.. Edit, I take that back. It appears that local governments have approved extra taxes for their schools so areas like Carmel are back to their old tax levels to assure better education. Exactly what I would expect to happen.

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QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 16, 2015 -> 06:22 AM) No clue about Spurrier but Bo is stepping aside now to assure his long time assistant gets a crack at the job. Also because his team sucks this year.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 15, 2015 -> 10:06 PM) Isn't this the bill that the Supreme court found unconstitutional for the pension reforms? Will that effect this part. Also, you will find a big difference in funding for the schools with few special needs students. This state government has proven to me that they give two s***s about kids with special needs. It's gotten progressively worse and when they hit 18 there is nothing available.