RockRaines

Flaked is a pretty exceptional show. Just started Friends from College as well, pretty solid.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) For over half a season? In which year? But I don't think we can equate consistency in numbers with improvement in his changeup or fastball command. I believe his second season in Col, but Ill have to check. His walks went up and so did his ERA

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:52 AM) One other thing is the trades of yesterday felt so much more familiar to me. THe trades of well playing veterans for fringey spects reminded me of the bets that KW so easily made with a bad farm system. But nobody was a truly elite player, and we built too much of our team on these types without enough of the big impact guys to pull the weight. Like, it seems foolish now to think that Youk could have legit led us to playoffs but I totally believed it. KW would have gotten like 8 fringe prospects back in that deal, all superior athletes with no baseball skills.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) He's always been throwing hard, so if he's able to throw hard more consistently now due to improved command, then it's more likely he's able to sustain success. People act like he's having a fluke year, but there is real reason behind his success. He's had months of consistency before, only to lose command and see his ERA spike.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:33 AM) Idiocy? Whether that's by the sportswriters or by the White Sox we'll see. Sanchez and Saladino should take over 3b and Moncada should be the starting 2b when he's in the lineup. I saw he's the starting 2B immediately, from Hahn I believe

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:18 AM) So we can't comment if we don't love a trade now? f*** no, keep going.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:14 AM) Did Kahnle increase his FB velocity? I thought he always threw hard, i thought it was just swarzak with the increased velocity. Kahnle's success is completely tied to his change up. Its devastating. He also started throwing strikes.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) Yes. I think at this time next season, Tommy Kahnle will likely be valued more than he is today. Had he stayed here, and gotten the opportunity to close, I definitely would have believed that. Thats fair enough. I think the volatility of relievers, especially ones that figure it out in their late 20's warrants flipping them when you can. He could become a dominant closer and make me eat those words. I just checked out his baseball reference page, his #1 comparison by age gave me the willies. f***ing Linebrink.

I love how the President of the United States wants our healthcare system to fail so that his political party feels like they "won." Thats what this s*** has come to.

Moncada has to become a star and Kopech has to stay healthy. If that happens its a clear decision.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:59 AM) There is nothing "depreciating" about Kahnle. So you are thinking his value increases as this season ends into next season?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:53 AM) To continue to make this argument completely ignores the point that these were assets that had value on the market. I get that we want to convert them to assets that can help us in the future, but that doesn't mean you just start dumping all your present assets down the drain to get anything you can. Depreciating assets.

The mark of a good trade is when both fanbases hate it. This one is spot on.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:49 AM) This is such horses***. The odds of Kahnle keeping this up in the major leagues are slim to none, but the odds of an A-ball prospect turning into a valuable player are great? If Kahnle was a prospect we'd be all f***ing amped about him. Yes, nothing amps me up like a 28 year old reliever prospect.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) I get the idea, and it is high risk, but to get a top 30 prospect for a rental, a guy that people wanted to DFA last season, and a guy who very well may be a flash in the pan is a win. Exactly.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:42 AM) If Kahnle becomes elite and Rutherford busts, the trade blew up in their faces. 60 strike outs in 36 innings. I saw something that if he has you 0-2, you are screwed. MLB hitters are 2-39 with 32 strikeouts if they fall behind him 0-2. Ha, ok. If Kahnle somehow becomes the best reliever in baseball and a top 40 prospect completely busts out, then maybe it was bad. The odds of that are extremely slim. Relievers are simply not that consistent to make me regret ever flipping one.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) That doesn't mean you just dump everyone that doesn't fall into that window and declare it a winner if you got someone who does. Thus far, Hahn has been extremely patient, and the returns have been pretty outstanding. This one felt like it was a bit more, umm, Kenny. It means you dump players that have no value to your squad for young talent that has much more. The return on this trade was excellent for the White Sox. The fact that a reliever with a few good months could be called a cornerstone to this trade is awesome.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:35 AM) I keep reading anyone who isn't in love with this deal is overvaluing the White Sox players. I know Blake Rutherford has been highly regarded here and a lot of places, but his stock has slipped a bit this year. Sure, maybe he becomes a monster, but right now if he were a White Sox draft pick there would be a ton of moaning about his performance thus far this season which isn't terrible, but not exactly great. I personally neither love or hate the trade. It's one that can easily blow up in each team's face, also can be even overall (If these guys help the Yankees make the playoffs, I don't think they worry about Rutherford, especially considering their OF prospects). IMO, it's one of the rare trades that years from now can look ridiculously stupid or smart for either team. So I would guess that's a fair trade. Frankly, I would have preferred they held on to Kahnle for a while, made him a closer, and rolled the dice this isn't a fluke. In the winter or next summer, if he is still cruising along, he would be worth his weight in gold. I could understand the chance to get Frazier/DRob off the books, and acquire a guy they have really liked could trump that. Using Nate Jones being injured as reason to dump Kahnle doesn't make sense. It would be like hey Profar was a top prospect and he got hurt, so top prospects should be avoided. Trading players that wouldnt have been part of the rebuilt White sox means is 100% isnt going to "blow up in their faces." Its amazing we fixed a reliever and used him partly to bring back young talent. Thats how you rebuild.

QUOTE (Tmar @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 06:10 AM) Ouch that's a big time trade loser Yeah but its fun watching us fleece the yankees

I can't believe they got what they did. I like it.

Watch Hannity for 10 minutes and you'll see why those people dont believe anything.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:50 AM) Give him some tick. Joey Lane (a walk on) was due for some burn before Dakich. That shows how bad the roster situation is

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 12:57 AM) I had my first Avocado today. Heard they were good sources for potassium. Don't know if it was overripe, etc... It really didn't have much taste at all. Someone said it was like eating butter, and that's what I'd compare it to. Thats why its a good mayo sub on sandwiches. To get real flavor people mix it with stuff.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) HA HA Rock! Enjoy the Dakich family! He blocked me on twitter years ago, so thats about how much I like Dan. His son, warm practice body. We need more guys to even scrimmage

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) Can we talk openly in this thread without spoiler tags? Because I thought it was very interesting that Euron mentioned he was going to get something to prove his loyalty to Cersei. And there is a certain item from the books that might be useful when giant dragons are about to invade your kingdom. Yes, I am shocked they havent brought that up yet. Its either that or something from Dorne