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QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 10, 2007 -> 05:01 PM) http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/12/09/the-dugout-f-ks-k/ What the hell was that?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 9, 2007 -> 10:50 PM) How about signing the devil that doesnt give up more draft picks. And signing the devil that we can be 100% certain is not going to show up on the Mitchell report.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 9, 2007 -> 08:55 PM) Hee Sop Choi Korean.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 9, 2007 -> 04:55 PM) And I keep seeing that posted, but not really referred to in other places. If that is the case, then I guess 3/$40m would be as high as I would go. KW should offer 3/$48M. If anyone beats that, fine.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Matsui and Fukudome are friends?

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 9, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) If Ozzie really said something about inflated stats for these players, then I think it's pretty obvious the Sox won't get him. At this point, I just hope we drive up his price to 15 mil or so. I really wanted the Sox to sign Torii Hunter. I was disappointed when he signed with the Angels, but not uspet with KW/Sox because there was no way they should have offered him $90M for 5 years. I really wanted the Sox to trade for Miguel Cabrera. I was disappointed when Detroit got him but not upset with KW/Sox because there was no way they could have matched the 6 prospects Detroit traded away. I really want the Sox to sign Fukudome. If he signs elsewhere for a ridiculously high offer, say over $15M per year for over 4 years, I'll be disappointed. However, if the Cubs are able to sign him for a reasonable deal, I will be upset that the Sox did not outbid them.

According to MLBTraderumors, Miggy is about to be released soon. Would the Sox have any interest in him as a backup to AJ? Would Olivo be interested in being a backup at this point in his career?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2007 -> 05:43 PM) Ill tell you what. We sign Fuk U Dome to that contract and trade for Brian Roberts and this team automatically looks pretty tough. I wouldnt even know where to bat Fuk. 1. Roberts 2B 2. Cab SS 3. Thome DH 4. Kong 1B 5. Dye RF 6. Fuk CF 7. Fields 3B 8 AJP C 9 Quentin LF I've been thinking along the same lines. If Roberts can be had for Gio, Richar and say Sweeney, I'd do it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2007 -> 04:03 PM) Offer him 4/52 and see if the Cubs beat it. Offer him 3/48 and see if anybody beats it.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 6, 2007 -> 12:06 AM) My offseason hopes now rely on us getting Fukodome. Plus with Fukodome we get to hear what nickname Hawk might come up with that will infuriate the FCC... "The Fuker"???

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 11:13 PM) Rowand isn't worth it and Jones probably turned it down (well, Boras did). How's about that for a theory? Spend it on Fukudome.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 4, 2007 -> 11:26 PM) Carlos Silva, 5/$60, here we go, that's a title contender right there!

I would hope he outbids the Cubs for Fukudome and then uses the rest of the offseason adding pitching. A lineup of: Fukudome CF Cabrera SS Thome DH Konerko 1B Dye RF Quentin LF Pierzynski C Fields 3B Richar 2B Coupled with an improved pitching staff has a chance to compete and even be a legit contender with the Tribe and Tigers if the pitching comes through.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 11:35 PM) He is. I called around to find out. By all reports he is doing very well. So will he be able to play in ST?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 08:29 PM) He goes by the name Bourgeois. Or something like that. I heard he is terrible at SS.

QUOTE(rockren @ Dec 3, 2007 -> 02:55 PM) I'm happy to see all of the positive feedback on this deal. I couldn't believe the amount of bad mouthing KW got on the OC deal. I'm surprised those same people aren't upset we didn't pull down Upton for Carter. Me too. When I heard about this trade on my way home from work I figured when I logged on to Soxtalk all I'd see is wailing on how KW was a fool for trading away the great Chris Carter. I'm happy to see people here understand this move. Any word on when Quentin will be ready to play? I've read that after his shoulder surgery in October the expected rehab time was around six months. If true, he may not be on the opening day roster.

This part is of particular interest: Leaving behind Greg Walker, a man Rowand refers to as "not only the best hitting coach in baseball, hands down, but also one of my best friends," Rowand was forced to rely more on his own knowledge to make corrections with his swing. This bit of personal growth should help answer critics who point to 2007 as a spectacular anomaly compared to his past solid seasons. "During the last couple of years, I learned a lot about myself and my swing," said Rowand, who hit .309 in 2007, with 27 home runs, 45 doubles, 89 RBIs and 105 runs scored. "[in Chicago] I depended on [Walker] to watch and break down every one of my swings, and I leaned on him and depended on him too much, instead of learning a feel. "Milt Thompson is Philadelphia's hitting coach, and I have nothing bad to say about Milt whatsoever. But he doesn't break down your swing mechanically the way that Walker does. He's more of a feel guy than about mechanics with the swing. "So it's almost like I became my own hitting coach and had to make adjustments myself," Rowand added. "I'm already out swinging right now. Two months have gone by, and normally when I start hitting, I feel like I don't know what I'm doing. This year, I feel like I'm right there still."

ESPN reports the deal is done. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?i...e=ESPNHeadlines

QUOTE(BaseballNick @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 10:18 PM) Why is everyone having a hissy fit? It's November; not April. The second round of GM meetings hasn't even started yet! If you really think we should have outbid LAA and given Hunter somewhere around $100million then there's exhibit A as to why you're not the GM of this team. KW already added two pretty good players at the expense of a pitcher who was unspectacular (10-13) last year, in the walk year of his contract, and who publicly admitted that he has a knot in his shoulder which bothers him when he throws. Pitchers who have shoulder issues and who have logged 850IPs over the last four seasons are an extended DL stint waiting to happen. ^^^^^

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 08:01 AM) Its not out of the realm of possibility that Rowand's price will come down from what he wanted earlier, but I'd prefer Crisp myself. Besides being a lot cheaper, if he regains his Cleveland offensive form, the guy is only 1 year older than Owens, he could be a .300 hitter with a .340 OBP with 15 homers and 25 steals while playing solid defense. Is Torii Hunter a real good bet to put up similar numbers the next 5 years ? The White Sox apparently were willing to pay him $15 million a year. Crisp has been banged up in Boston, and some people aren't comfortable there either. See Edgar Renteria. For the money they were going to give Hunter, they can pay Crisp and Fukodome should he decide to come over. Seems to me it would be a much better plan. Crisp is only "cheaper" money-wise. He's more costly than Rowand in that the Sox would have to trade away talent to get him. The Sox are short on talent as it is.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Nov 27, 2007 -> 11:27 AM) Frankly I don't much care about 2011, the whole baseball world could be different by then and likely will be. If they say they want to win in 2008, then go with that mindset and further, act like it. Go get some players and fill your holes with guys that are available and are proven. Amen!

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) That doesn't really paint much of a positive light for the Sox clubhouse does it. And really, losing 1 guy in Rowand shouldn't make THAT much of an impact IMHO. They lost two on-field leaders--Rowand and Carl. That's why Hunter would have been nice, he's kind of like a combination of Rowand and Everett.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 02:25 PM) And like I said I have zero problem with an outfield of Fields/Crawford/Dye A third baseman in LF, a left fielder in CF and an aging slow Dye in RF.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2007 -> 02:45 PM) If we go with a 12 man pitching staff, which I think is likely at this point, here's how the bench seems to shape up. We basically have 4 bench slots to give out with a 12 man staff. Things I wouldn't mind seeing: Pablo, who can back up a couple of positions (None terribly well defensively) who's main job will probably be a platoon in LF with Owens. Bourgeois - right hand hitting, IF utility guy Backup Catcher - Hall Those are the 3 guys we currently have. That leaves me seeing 2 potential needs; a guy who can play CF, and/or a lefty. Can Bourgeois play CF? Anyone know? We already know Mack can't. He's not a terrible option, but even if we sign him, it still leaves a bench that doesn't look complete to my eyes. They need a backup RFer. Someone with a good arm.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 08:42 PM) Sooooo...who plays 3B if Crede's back gets all sketchy or he can't come back at all? No Fields. I don't think the Sox have the horses to get Crawford, unless the Rays REALLY want to deal him. His proposal was for M Cabrera not Crawford. If Crede got injured again, either Cabrera plays 3B or Uribe.