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This is the unknown. What they did with him last year was a massive deviation from the typical way we have approached pitchers. Going from so few innings to his workload last season. I wouldn't have given it any chance of coming out ofnthe season without an injury. However, it worked. After talking with people involved I can see how they approached it in a very different manner that could only have been done post ucl reconstruction. He came out of the season injury free. That was a huge success a very different program. I would have said his chances of injury or at least poor performance in 2025 was near 100%. But they convinced me that they have a good philosophy and plan for this year. So I would say I'm cautiously optimistic that he can have an injury free season based on the workload last year. Injuries can always happen to pitchers so it is a significant unknown on his chances of injury as what he did last year was unprecedented.

I was way off on crochet. Still didn't like what they did during the season. However, I've had a chance to talk to some people about what they did last off season with him. They convinced me that what they did was right. They had the advantage of having a full off season to get him ready for being a starter. They didn't need to worry about recovery from the previous season as he was out rehabbing from surgery. They new plan they came up with was unique to these circumstances. I really think they came up with a great plan for it. Now we just need to see how it works going into this next season. I'm far more optimistic now then during the season based on talking with the people involved.

It is sarcasm because it's only one point of view as to if there was actually any misdiagnosed or poor medical. Anytime only one point of view is given it should be taken for what it's worth, hence the "well if the player said it it must be true." Many players claim these types of things when their career is over and most of the time, it's not reality. Now again not being involved in them, I can't specifically comment. However, it would be interesting to see all of malpractice lawsuits that were involved in it if it was that bad. Players do win them if it was truly bad medical care as it does happen and is justified at times.

Sarcasm flies right by.

Well if a player says it then it must be true. I have no knowledge of the individual incidences and wouldn't comment on it unless I knew more about them. Anytime meningitisis even suspected when someone is in a large group scenario, they will default to getting tested.

I agree it's not worth rehashing a decade old issue from people who weren't involved in it but enjoy placing blame. Regardless of what you may think Rush medical system is a good organization.

I agree. Everyone's Fandom is their own. I've have a partial season ticket package for over 20 years and family bears tickets since they were at Wrigley. I've sent a lot of losing. But neither has kept me from enjoy the sports and enjoying going to games, even though going to many at all levels has been part of the job as well.

Agreed. Went to an independentleague game over the weekend as well. Baseball games are just fun and enjoyable.

I know he had microfracture surgery on his knee in Europe before it was approved by the FDA in the US.

It's good to know you are up on tour medical protocols. You know what symptoms he had, when he had them and why not just the Bulls medical staff, but the emergency room staff, infection disease staff and OR staff all agreed it was the right call. What you don't seem to understand is that even though he didn't have meningitis, making sure he didn't have it was the correct protocol. Just because the anesthesiologist made a mistake doesn't make the decision. I do not always defend the medical staff. I've pointed out many times where I don't think they did what they should have. However I look at each one objectively and make a decision. I don't have a blanket "of course they are wrong" view of everthing. edit: forgot to address the where luol Deng is from comment. It os possible to have meningitis, be asymptomatic for awhile then have symptoms especially under physical stress, like a long playoff run where he played an abnormally large number of minutes.

Where is luol Deng from? Meningitis spreads quickly. When someone from my daughters collegiate team was sent the the hospital because they thought she had meningitis, she didn't but had a spinal tap, they quarantined her and separated the entire team from everyone until they got tested. You don't think they are going to be overly cautious during the NBA playoffs? If others around would get it, it would endanger everyonein the locker room and stadium. You stick with your informed, objective opinion. I'll stick with my 35 years of working in sports medicine and we'll disagree.

His symptoms were severe enough that they thought is could be meningitis. This was why he was sent to the ER and admitted to the hospital. They also thought it was severe enough to do the spinal tap. There wouldn't have been those kind of testing facilities at the stadium. While he was misdiagnosed it wasn't by one person in the Bulls organization and he did the diagnosis and the spinal tap. Once he was admitted to the ER it wasn't in their hands.

They did think he may have it. Sent him to the hospital where they have the capabilities to do the tests. They agreed based on the symptoms. The anesthesiologist did the spinal tap and didn't calculate the fluid properly. Back then no one had the ability to do the testing for flu or anything else except the medical facilities.

You do understand that the spinal tap was ordered and done at a hospital after he was admitted to the ER and had nothing to do with the Bulls medical staff.

Depends on how closely you work with the docs and if you have worked for the professional sports teams. If you work with the professional sports team you work closely with the docs. Your PT at the corner clinic may not. As for the answer to your first question, I am a doctor of education.

I just discovered the emparogi. 5 pierogi covered with bacon and braised short ribs. I agree with keep9ng the food menu people.

I would bet 50% of all MLB pitchers have a bone spur to some extent in their elbow. The size and placement makes a big difference in the symptoms.

It wasn't missed. Just because something shows on Imaging doesn't mean it is the cause of an issue. Studies have been done on people with no history of back pain and up to 30% are diagnosed with herniated discs. I say MRI stands for More Radiographic Income. They can help prove the clinical diagnoses but should not be used on their own. They need to be interpreted based on the clinical findings.

There can be inflammationin the elbow around the bone spur, not knowing if the bone spir is the cause of the inflammation. They let the inflammationgo down and work them back up to pitching. If the inflammation returns, then they determined that the bone spur is the issue and not something else. This is when surgery is indicated. Similar to bone spurs in the heel for many people. Many people have them but only some are actually symptomatic. Too many people get surgery to remove the bone spur only to find out that it wasn't the cause of the issue. Just because something shows up on Imaging doesn'tmean it it causing the issue.

Yeah, last couple of outings he's looked tired. Good results but not his best stuff.

while i disagree analytics shouldn’t be involved in the game, it has its uses, his point is valid. This rule is only needed due to the way analytics has changed the game.

But does that mean people who don't agree with everything that is being said need to be told that they should read the room when they respond? Why can't some disagree with some aspects without being told their responses are wrong? Not the items they are discussing are wrong that is debate. It's the fact that people are telling others they should think like everyone else.

Now you are reading the room and responding appropriately.

Shhh. You must read the room and go with the narrative.

Worked with Listach in the minors good guy, smart.