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  1. The MLB gave some things to the players and added some things for themselves? Isn't that what negotiations are supposed to be?
  2. That's because after the owners used replacement players and essentially broke the union, they have dominated the union and there isn't labor strife. Its settled without much issue.
  3. That's the issue. The difference between believing and thinking.
  4. I may generate economic activity but not for myself. ? I of course do not disagree but that is not the way of the world.
  5. Revenue sharing negates this somewhat. As players in a smaller market are supplemented by money larger markets. However, in general you are correct as it's the more fans want to see a player or team the Revenue increases whether by ticket price or advertising revenue. The reason why professional athletes and actors make more money than us teachers. They bring in revenue and we cost tax payers money.
  6. The players as a whole yes. But they also can get cut as an individual and not make the money. Many players are cap casualties in the NFL because only the stars make the big money. The middle class players lose their money. The MLB will never have a revenue split because the players won't agree to a hard cap so the owners won't open the books. The guaranteed contract is a better deal for the players as they all get their money with no possibility of losing it for any reason including getting cut which is so common in the NFL.
  7. That's the key. There is no guaranteed 7-8% earnings. When contracts are not guaranteed, they may not get it. Remember the Manny rumors dies he go for the guaranteed 300 million from san Diego or the 285 guaranteed with incentives to go to 325. He went with the 300 guaranteed. Why? It's guaranteed, injuries don't play a factor, poor play doesn't matter.
  8. Job security is one thing many unions negotiate for. Just look at how crazy the NFL reports is about Rogers getting 153 out of 200 million actually guaranteed. Guarateed contracts are immensely important and a huge advantage for the MLB players.
  9. Its written on the wall in the locker room.
  10. Got it. I knew someone posted something about that number somewhere.
  11. I thought someone posted a source earlier stating MLB players get 47% of revenues.
  12. I'm surprised the union rejected the robo umps. Unless it is just a bargaining chip.
  13. It's easier to control a damp ball when you lick the fingers. Not a wet ball like in the rain.
  14. I would bet most owners had businesses prior to buying into the legal monopoly.
  15. I believe Carlton Fisk and Million Dollar Floyd Bannister were in this category as well.
  16. Maybe it's past the limit of his revenues?
  17. Same here. She only goes from mid-May to August. This includes Bears games.
  18. I agree. I like the outdoor environment for sports. Even the 10 degree Bears games.
  19. Some are simple. The MLB one is not. If the owners lockout the employees. Odds are it has already started with animosity and won't be simple.
  20. I don't think this is totally true. The other sports aren't partnering with the players, they dominate them. MLB is the only league without a true hard salary cap and the only one with guaranteed contracts. The other unions aren't as strong which is why there is no labor issues. If the MLBPA agreed to a hard salary cap and no guaranteed contracts, I'll bet the owners would run to sign that deal.
  21. Ok. So back to his statement. He said this would all end if the owners agreed to continue with the terms of the last CBA. You just listed even more things that the players wanted. So again, i don't think the players would have agreed to play under the previous CBA terms.
  22. An informal meeting between the 2 lead negotiators.
  23. Could be. Can't say I follow all of them. Did they have a lock out as in this situation?
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