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QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 05:38 PM) I don't know, I'm not there. You're the one who said LaRoche thought it was. KW was the one who put a stop on LaRoche bringing his kid around everyday and having him on the field during drills though. Sorry, I was commenting on the post that this club has too much of a country club atmosphere. Not sure what your post was about then.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 05:25 PM) Until KW finally stepped in. So he made it a non-country club atmosphere then but has since decided to allow it to be a country club again?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) It really is. I wanted them to get one of the top ones. Hell the As are cheap but seemingly find a way to get a top one all the time. I'm sure you would like them to spend 1 billion on the MLB roster too. The last couple of years the have spent more than many teams and some of them are seeming to be progressing well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) It's funny the "low budget" A's are the ones who shelled out money (originally) for Cespedes, Michael Ynoa and now Lazarito. Because it's cheaper to bet on these prospects than sign real players. Hence, the restrictions of the low budgets.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) No accountability so it's a country club feel. That is what LaRoche though too.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) He was so awful last night. Made Davidson sound like an incredible player. He is hitting .500.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 2, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) GnR was a blast. They played for 2 and a half hours. Slash is still unreal. I was there too. Best guitar concert since SRV and Clapton for me.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 05:44 PM) Does this mean his foot would have soon been injured with use? Had he stayed in the minors was the injury imminent? No. It's just a different type of fracture. It's really difficult to sustain a Lisfranc fracture, they usually occur with more trauma and energy than what he did today. These are just less common. Again, possible but not as likely.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 04:32 PM) Hopefully it's not the worst fracture and can heal without surgery. What's the bad one lis franc? A lisfranc fracture is a really bad one. It's in the metatarsals near the ankle. I would doubt it's that from the description but it's possible.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) Siera Santos ‏@SieraSantos 1m1 minute ago Matt Davidson has a fracture in his right foot. He'll be evaluated by team doctors tomorrow. #WhiteSoxTalk Ouch, talk about bad luck. Probably a jones fracture of the 5th metatarsal. That is an extra long healing time usually probably 8 weeks.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) You're one of my favorite posters on this site, but the bolded just isn't true. Find me a guy who consistently struck out 30% of the time in AAA (for more than a very brief stint) that had ANY real success in the majors hitting-wise. There might be an outlier here or there, but few or none. I agree that K-rate is silly to get too hung up on if we're talking 18 vs 20%, or the like. But at 30% that's a big red flag. Sorry, I meant to say that the high K rate is indicative of the LACK of success in the MLB, not success. Bad typing on a tablet, not that I type well on a PC.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) First quick twitch AA Sox have had forever that can actually play a little baseball as well. So was it worth the Mitchell and Walker athletic player type picks to get one Anderson

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) There are countries aside from US. Where? I don't believe it.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) Yeah, the issue is that you still need to eat and put a roof over your head. So people who come from less have a hard time getting that unpaid real world experience than those who come from a more comfortable economic background. But no disagreement with the point that real world experience holds so very much value. This is where giving them college credits for the internship helps, it allows them to continue the student loans while gaining the experience.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) That's the ideal scenario. I want Davidson to hit so once people get healthy and somebody has to go to Charlotte, it can finally be Avi. They currently have 4 available outfielders Eaton Shuck coats Garcia They can't send him down until they are sure Cabrera is healthy, even then having only 4 outfielders is tricky. i don't think they can send him down until Jackson is ready. At that time it will be who is more effective, coats or Garcia. The bigger question is who they send down when Morneau is ready. The infielders are: Abreu Lawrie Anderson Frazier Saladino Davidson With the way the bullpen is being worked due to the starters pitching short games, I'm not sure they can send a bullpen arm down.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) Many on this site and over at Future Sox care way too much about strikeout rate. It's like people constantly focus on it and ignore the positives with guys. It's always, "Yeah but that K rate". Kris Bryant had a 30% K rate last year in the majors and was consistently in the mid 20's in the minors. Matt Davidson obviously isn't Kris Bryant. To me, the K rate isn't important in itself. High K rate in the minors can be indicative of success with contact in the MLB.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 07:12 PM) Dfa him before the second inning please I love reading the game threads after the fact. Its amazing how short they are when the sox are actually winning.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:59 PM) Oh, by the way, PTAC, there's an article for you to diagnose. It's buried in the MLB Catch-All one page back from the end. It's about the stem cell treatment program the Angels are using as an alternative to TJ surgery. Think they're doing it with Andrew Heaney now, not sure about other pitchers because I haven't had the time to read the whole thing. Just thought you might be interested and probably didn't see it or you would have commented. I haven't seen it specifically for the ulnar ligament but I know they are trying it with others. It should be interesting to see how strong the ligaments bounce back.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:48 PM) Benetti? Too soon for that, lol. Actually, Hahn's not the "quiet nerd" type at all, at least he wasn't at Harvard Law from all the stories I've heard. I know. It was just a slight dig at the people who blame KW and not Hahn who they don't think he really does much.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) That sounds nearly identical to anti-Mexican feelings in this country, which definitely carry a racial component. True I'm sure there is some racism in any bias however over there its not just a group, its anyone who isn't German. Didn't matter the color of the German's skin, it was the fact that another national was taking their opportunities. It just had a very different feel from the racism here which is directed as much inward as it is outward. Do you consider the hate against Muslims racism?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 04:59 PM) Personally I think Kenny just talked off the cuff in an effort to deflect the criticism the organization was taking after "winning" the off season then falling flat on their faces to start 2015. I honestly don't know if there really is such a thing since the organization has been very quiet about this. Mark Yeah, he and Ozzie are alike in that way. They are smart enough to spout out about stuff to deflect the topic. He doesnt mind being the mouth piece and lightening rod. I think that is part of the reason people focus their wrath on him instead of the quiet nerd in the corner.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Oh I agree it is a systemic organizational problem. Not just one individual, however I'm convinced Kenny still has a large say in things and we've seen what his M.O. has been for 15 years (i.e. "go for it" every year, trade minor leaguers, bring in vets generally on the downside of their careers, continually trying to make the "big splash" for some reason) Mark I agree. Of course he has a large part, he is the highest ranking person outside of the ownership. However, to continually blame him and him alone is wrong. Even prior to becoming the official GM, Hahn and KW worked together.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) You are quite correct, and it should be pretty obvious to everyone that it all starts at the top of the house with Jerry Reinsdorf. By Williams' and Hahn's own acknowledgement, they get their marching orders from him. But the major decisions affecting the baseball side of the house aren't made by Reinsdorf in a vacuum. Those decisions are all co-developed among not only the three headed monster that is Jerry/Kenny/Rick, but also with inputs from Bell, Ventura, and Cooper as well. They collectively are and have been the White Sox braintrust for a long time now, and therein lies the problem: they have proven to be really lousy at what they do! For a very long time now this Sox management group has proven to be an ineffective unit at running a successful organization on the field. Unlike off the field and on the balance sheet and income statement, where the organization's finance guys seem to have things in fine working order, profit margins where they need to be and what not, the baseball minds, such as they are, have been subpar, no matter how you slice and dice it. For whatever reason, they simply cannot produce a sustainable, winnning product on the field. And how many years have they been at this as a tandem? 13, 14? It's kind of ridiculous at this point, if you think about it. So yes, Ptac, the blame and/or angst should not be laid at the feet of any one individual in the Sox front office. It's been a team effort, from the top on down. That's why the calls for a total house cleaning become louder and more convincing with each passing day. I agree. I've said all along that if the sox decide to change the front office it needs to be the whole group. They make the decisions together. There isn't a person to blame its the group.

QUOTE (GhostofDickeyKerr @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) Yes. I was a much bigger fan of PTATC's back in the day when he would only comment on medical issues. Wow, I had a fan? I'm just trying to get people to realize it is not KW. No matter how much people want to lame one person on whom they can focus all of their ager and frustration, it just isn't true. Keep your head in the sand if you want but you are focusing on much on one person.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 01:34 PM) PTATC: Don't know if you know this but in fact it was Kenny who talked to the mainstream media last June about the "three year window / plan." Until then nobody had heard much if anything along those lines. Green is not making something up here, Kenny did say this. Mark Yes he did. However, do you really think he came up with the plan for the team on his own? Do you really think he told Hahn "this is what your plan is for the next three years?" I have no doubt he had a hand in it, however to continually blame him only for all of this is absurd.