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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) He was fine with the Cubs. The only reason they got rid of him is Joe Maddon. So his qualifications of being a real MLB manager is 1 season of being fine with the Cubs. They may want to aim for higher than that.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) Ventura isn't a major league manager. At least with Renteria, we know that he is one. Won't always agree with any manager but knowing we have an actual manager will be great. A lot of its on the players and I understand that. How do you know this? He was a manager for 1 year.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) JR brings everyone in, at the end of the day, not a single exec is going to get hired without his approval. One of the larger issues I have with JR is that he just shuffles the chairs on the ship rather than bringing in guys from the outside with fresh perspectives and approaches. Yes, Hahn and Hostetler are relatively new at their jobs, but their bosses in their former positions are still the same people they are reporting to today and still have as much input to the conversations as they had with their old positions. To me what is not working is having too many opinions at the top which creates a Frankenstein approach to running an organization. JR approves everyone. He doesn't go out, recruit and decide who to bring in. Everything else is true. There are people there from before. however, as I said it's not like Hahn is brand new, he has a working relationship with KW and if he didn't think it would work he would have left. I like the new direction they seem to be heading. I think they all had a hand in it and it could work. There a few questions if they decide to change the front office. 1. if you like the draft, what will happen to Hostetler? Can he work with the new GM?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) I'm not really comfortable with an extra-judicial and unchallengable "watch list" that prohibits you from exercising your constitutional rights, and there's lots of documented problems with the No-Fly list. Guys like Adam Lanza and Jared Loughner were never on the FBI radar. Omar had an active license to carry a gun as part of his job (though his current position was unarmed). A "no-guns" list would not prevent these sorts of tragedies. Hey, we agree on something somewhat political!

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) I remember reading/seeing this town hall a few weeks ago. The timing is unreal. “I just came from a meeting today in the situation room, in which I’ve got people who we know have been on ISIL websites, living here in the United States, U.S. citizens,” Obama said at the town hall, using another name for the Islamic State group. “And we’re allowed to put them on the no-fly list when it comes to airlines, but because of the National Rifle Association, I cannot prohibit those people from buying a gun.” “This is somebody who is a known ISIL sympathizer, and if he wants to walk into a gun store or a gun show right now and buy as many weapons and ammunition as he can, nothing’s prohibiting him from doing that even though the FBI knows who he is,” the president said. The scenario Obama described as a possibility has now come true. Omar Mateen, 29, bought a semi-automatic rifle and a handgun less than a week before he killed around 50 people at a gay nightclub in Florida. Mateen had been investigated by the FBI twice — once in 2013 and again in 2014 — but was still legally allowed to obtain the weapons. So what you're saying is that anyone who is investigated should be banned from flying and buying weapons. I'm going to have to disagree. convicted of a felony, yes. Investigated with no charges, arrest or convictions, no.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 10:57 AM) I really don't feel like the problem is Hahn. I think the problem is that JR has brought in a new group of decision makers like Hahn and Hostetler and kept the old guard around Williams, Lauman, and Bell, which just leads to having too many cooks in the kitchen and and a hybrid philosophy to running an organization that doesn't really excel at anything. The problem probably isn't RV, but there are not a lot of other moves to be made to get the ship righted at this point. I am so ready for JR to move on from this team. He has mentioned that he wants his family to get out of baseball so I wish he would just hurry up and do it. could be partially true. although, KW and Hahn worked together for years before so you would think they worked well together as they both had chances to leave the situation but didn't. Also, JR didn't bring Hostetler, KW and Han did, so again you would think that they would work together. I think this past draft has signified a new direction for the group. The recent past way wasn't working so they decided to change it. thisd is some of what I don't get about the KW issues people have he has shown the ability to change his thought process when something isn't working. He tried the safe college picks, didn't get results. Changed to high upside picks to find a superstar, didn't work. Brought in Hahn to lead more, didn't work. So now they've brought in Hostetler to change it up. He needed to let each step take a few years to see if it would work or not. He really has shown the ability of a good executive. now the point can be made that they want to go in a new direction and change leadership because all all of them are hired to be fired.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 09:20 AM) The Tribune has a headline today- "Could AJ Pierzynski return to the White Sox as manager?" I don't think that would ever happen. It also would never work. There wouldn't ever be a person on his side. He doesn't have the personality to be a manager.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 13, 2016 -> 09:02 AM) And then 25% blame their fellow White Sox fans. It's a neat trick. Maybe the most successful thing KW has done in the last ten years, getting the fans to take responsibility for the product on the field rather than poor judgement/inefficient allocation of resources. You are one of the reasons KW stopped talking to the media. He never said anything to that effect. He describes the structure for revenue. Prior to the season they know much is available through advertising, season ticket holders and so on. The only variable is the number of walk up fans. If more show up they have more money to spend. If fewer show up they have less to spend. He did not say "it's the fans fault, we are where we are." He answered a simple questions about revenue and possible moves. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said but because he was never really friendly to the media, they all ran with the "KW blames the fans." And the fans bought into it.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 10:22 PM) Loyalty without accountability be it to a sports team, a religion, a politician a government whatever you want to name is usually not a good thing. Mark I think most people would would disagree. Loyalty implies trust. Now I understand that people have no reason to trust someone they don't know and have never met, such as your examples of sports teams and politicians. You shouldn't have loyalty to people you don't know. I understand the concept here as people are frustrated. However, loyalty is usually a good thing when it comes to any type of personal relationship. I've just never heard the word in such a strong negative connotation. I know it helps me at work with my supervisors. I know if patient's have complaints or file lawsuits, they'll be on my side.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 09:57 PM) JR is loyal is his friends. Even if they suck at their job. This is Hahn's 4th or 5th year as GM. Is that enough time to determine this?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 12, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) They won't make a change because they're gutless loyal cowards. This is the only place where the word loyal is a four letter word. In most places it's a good thing.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) Q's last 6 six starts Sox have scored zero or 1 run and people on here say it is only 1 game LMAO. That's new?

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) The deliberate decrease in velocity has not yielded much improvement to Sale's performance. He had a great 9 start run to start the season assisted by some luck, the last few starts have not been so great for him and that might be due to the regression that the peripheral numbers indicated. The idea was to go deeper in the game with fewer pitches. Has that occurred?

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) It's still wrong. If you work you should get reimbursed. Unpaid internships are garbage. I think it's perfectly fine for something like this where you cut the production of the employees by 1/3.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) I didn't see anyone talking about it on here... was watching the KC broadcast when it happened. Sale was barking at Ventura pretty hard when he took him out of the game. I had never seen him do that before. I'm sure with only 108 pitches he wasn't happy coming out. I like that in a pitcher.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) I have a game worn Paulino I bought for $20. It is pretty large, but I had to get it since I was one of his biggest detractors. I wore it a couple of weeks ago, and a guy in a Dunn jersey told me he loved it. Everyone has replicas of the big names. I pay a fraction for an authentic and am the only guy in the park with a Paulino on. When I wear the autographed Snopek jersey people ask me why I signed my own jersey. The one people love is the signed Warren Newsome jersey.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 11, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) I'm waiting longer than that. Don't want to get burned again (looks at #15 jersey hanging in closet). I've got a game worn, green jersey from a St. Patrick's Day spring training game from.... Chris Snopek! The SS of the future!

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:04 PM) It was 1-1. OOPS yahoo had it wrong. Changed after.

QUOTE (CB2.0 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) Why is Avi stealing??????? LOL. anderson was down 0-2. He was trying to save the kid an out.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Anyone else agree that we should try a lineup like this? Eaton Abreu (DH) Frazier (1B) Cabrera Lawrie Garcia Catcher Anderson (SS) Saldino (3B) Maybe even consider Anderson 2nd if he hits well, and shift anyone else down. I think Saladino back at 3B like in 2015 could work out, and that way you let Abreu DH. You also give Frazier a break from 3B, as he is also a decent 1B Others were saying to fire RV if he even considered that.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:50 PM) We really need another late inning reliever badly. What little we have is going to break down by August because we rely on them so heavily. Poor bullpen depth + a bad offense is a bad mixture. Or have your #1 starter go 7 innings. More starters to reach that numbers as well.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) It'd still be one out and runners at the corners. Shuck would have a DP then.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) KW ruined him and Hahn resurrected him That's it. My fault for not seeing it.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:41 PM) So glad to have New Abreu RV turned him around!!!! or did he just ruin him earlier?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 10, 2016 -> 09:37 PM) Can we just f***ing charge those last two runs to Robin? God I f***ing despise that idiot He put Putman in to save the inning. 1. 2. 3. Lift off!