ptatc

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Re-reading the title of this thread... I have to laugh at how many completely odd turns this thread has taken. The posters way of making a catch-all since the mods don't want them.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 05:06 PM) Muscular things don't send pain down the arm. Could this be another reason why they traded for Shields so soon?

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) Connor McKnight ‏@C1McKnight 24s24 seconds ago Chicago, IL Rodon will skip his Thursday start. Discomfort in neck. Went down to arm. MRI was clean. Muscular thing. Gonzalez will slide in. Muscular things don't send pain down the arm.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Buddy Bell was mentioning the Latin players who are signed after these showcases, and how they really don't play games. They just train to get signed. After they are signed, many don't know which base to throw or how to run the bases, situational hitting.. any of the nuances of the game most take for granted, because their actual game experience is so limited.. Never heard that one. Aren't usually 16 though? They should have a good 4-5 years in the minors to learn.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) Actress Theresa Saldana, 61. RIP. I remember that horrible attack on her in the early 80's. It was a miracle she survived that.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) This is great information. I don't think many people believe there are ANY negative side effects to weed. There are side effects they just aren't the ones that are immediate like the "take one hit and it will kill you." This is my problem with making it legal. I really don't care what people want to do to themselves but if it increases the use, it will put a bigger drain on the healthcare system which is already messed up.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 02:39 PM) Yep. Rooting for one's favorite sports team should be a hobby, and nothing more. Especially if you work, have a spouse, and have kids. I think it does change though. Prior to having a family, the sports world was important, as kids came along it fell back. As the kids got older and move out, there is less going on around the house and the sports world has begun to climb the daily ladder.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) It almost sounds like you were a team doctor or a team physical therapist. Mark I'm a physical therapist and athletic trainer. I've worked for many different organizations, professional and amateur.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) Unfortunately in baseball as in many other sports, fundamental skills have gone by the wayside in favor of an attitude of "what will get me on ESPN highlights?" Mark not only that but players are coming to the MLB with less games in the MILB in many cases. The learning in the MILB hasn't occurred.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) Wanna go watch them get swept by a divisional opponent because they dont really care again? You really need more proof this team is mentally weak? Do you honestly think the players aren't trying?

QUOTE (MEANS @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) What? Consistent marijuana use is pretty much a guaranteed ticket to a heart attack. THC does a number of these to the body. The primary effect is being powerful anti-inflammatory drug. This is why it's prescribed for things like glaucoma. However, it also slows the healing process because of this and makes injuries take much longer to heal. It also has about a 5x the effect of tobacco in causing cardiac issues.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) Understood and I respect that view. Sometimes I wish I could be more like that but I'm not. As I explained to South I happened to grow up perhaps in the only time in franchise history where if they lost (i.e. at the end of the season they actually had a losing record) it was inconceivable. That tends to color how you view things. And given the success the Sox had in that time period that view wasn't necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. I go back to late May 1961 when the Sox lost a DH to Baltimore and for a day or so dropped into last place for the first time since 1950. They'd finish the year in fourth place with another winning record. This actually happened. Some aldermen in a Chicago city council meeting brought up the fact the Sox were losing, in last place and thought the city should allocate some "disaster funds" for them. (Now I'm sure they were joking) That really reflected the overall attitude of the city though about what was expected from the Sox. The 'motion' by the way was defeated with the alderman from the Cubs ward saying it wasn't fair, that the Cubs were a disaster for decades. LOL (Wonder what would happen if they said something like that today? LOL) Mark I can see that. I think working for so many different pro and amateur sports teams has taken some of the intensity out of my "must win" attitude. For years it was just keep them on the field or get them back ASAP. After awhile it becomes, is the one more win really worth all of this? I understand it it from the athletes and management point of view but from a long term health position it can be very different.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) I think the best way to sum up my feelings PTATC is to say I like baseball but I love the White Sox. And when the Sox are doing poorly baseball has very little appeal for me. I don't care to watch other successful teams and wonder why it is the Sox can't do the same thing. Just the way I'm wired. Winning means more to me personally that the sport itself. Not saying you are right or wrong just that we take different approaches to this. Mark That's fine. Everyone has their own point of view. I was just joking about the response to your post. I love the game of baseball. i don't like to see the Sox lose but I can still enjoy a game if they lose unless the play is really awful.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) The negative impact of racism in one direction is much more severe than it is the other way. That's the missing part of this conversation, and I don't think there's any evidence out there that can refute that fact. Yes, but for that to come out in the election or debates, there would need to be an admission of racism the other way and the media would go crazy with it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 09:12 AM) What stage of grief are we on? Are we only on denial still? I am. i may vote for the guy with the boot on his head. But honestly, I'm really going to have to dig into both of the candidates to decide which is the lesser of two evils. This could be the election that I've researched the most ever.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) I'm totally the opposite. I put it on in the background and wind up doing something else when I don't care. I want someone to root for. I'm about to move and I'm going to one last Pirates game before I leave...and yes I'm going when the Cubs are in town because I want someone to root for in that game. (in case it's not clear, I will be rooting strongly for the Pirates that day). Yes, but is no fun in watching the game unless the team you are rooting for wins? Again, it's obviously more fun when the team wins but no fun in a game even if they lose? That's sounds more like a fan of winning not a team or the game.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:45 PM) I enjoy baseball when I have no emotional interest. you don't enjoy baseball in general?

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:44 PM) Maybe a lobotomy would help. or a bottle in front of me. Sometimes it's the only thing that helps watching these games.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) Done and done. I'll let the on field and front office actions speak for themselves. I'm serious about this. You get your wish. Mark Wow, it was a joke. People are far too serious. I fully support everyone to express their own opinions, even if they are wrong.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) I might be hitting my limit at about the 10 year point, and just flat out watching less baseball as a consequence. Then again, if I could stop having to move across the country I'd probably be right back where I was last year, watching every game. I guess this is the difference. I still love the game of baseball. Win or lose I still enjoy watching and going to games. The games are more enjoyable when they win but really just love to watch baseball.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:39 PM) I wish you wouldn't let the Pollyannas determine what you say. Ouch....Argghhh....OOFFF

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) The last 10 years have fully convinced me that saying "I'll trade 1 WS for 10 years of garbage teams" remains completely the right move. This is where I'm still stuck.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:52 AM) Be more than happy to, in fact I'd LOVE TO. Let me know when the Sox provide me a real reason to do so OK? Mark I will if you stop posting every single negative thought you can come up with about the team.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) "I told the Marlins he's going to be in the best shape you've ever seen him in," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said, according to the Times. "Whoever gets this guy is going to have a heck of a ballplayer with a different mentality. He's a big man and he has to take care of himself. ... He has the power and talent to be one of the best players ever." espn.com Maybe Ozzie is a better judge of players than we thought.... And De La Cruz was the only player there of the other 4 who was close to top rated, because of his 100+ MPH. Dallas Trahen was 8th in their system at the time of the deal, but that's like calling Courtney Hawkins a top prospect if we acquired Mike Trout and he was the 4th highest ranked prospect in the deal, with two others behind him. De La Cruz, maybe, being the equivalent of Frankie Montas. So if we traded Fulmer, Anderson (and they're both ranked behind where Miller/Maybin were by quite a bit), Montas/Spencer Adams, Hawkins and let's say Jacob May OR Trey M. and Tyler Danish OR Guerrero, I don't think anyone would be too upset about that trade at all, if Reinsdorf was actually willing to raise the payroll up into the $150 million range to accommodate Trout's contract escalating. http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/2006/11...pects-for-2007/ Willing or able? What's makes you think the team has that kind of money when only 4 or 5 teams in the entire league are spending that?

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 7, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) I actually meant to say Lester. Ok. the point remains the same.