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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 07:44 AM) If you want to prove cheating actually happened, you need to follow good procedures. Cheating exists because people want to win and want more money or prestige or whatever. Happens outside of sports too. Edit another way of saying that is that without good procedure, you can't establish the facts conclusively. You can establish facts. Fact 1: empoyees admitted to purposely underinflating the balls. Fact 2: All of the Patriot footballs were underinflated, the Colts were not. These are not disputed facts. The procedure is how to interpret the facts. This is where it fails. In the case of the Braun drug test, there was no disputing that he failed a drug test. It was a fact. He didn't get suspended because proper procedure to send the sample to the lab immediately wasn't followed. i agree that there needs to be good procedures and rules to follow. However, sometimes there are unforseen circumstances that the procedure didn't take into account and common sense needs to over rule it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 07:15 AM) Wouldn't we all flip off Detroit fans if we could. I know I would. I have. There is one in our neighborhood. When the sox get big wins he returns the salute.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2016 -> 07:04 AM) The NFLs crack team appeared unaware that pressure changes with temperature and had no standardized procedure for performing and recording the tests they did. So procedural rules are always more important than the facts. They have employees admitting they underinflated the balls. All of the Patriot footballs were underinflated yet all of the others were not. Someone on the Patiots didn't follow the rules. This is just like the Ryan Braun not getting suspended for PEDs because the technician didn't follow the "procedure" yet followed common practice even though it was a valid positive test. This reasoning is why there is still rampant cheating in sports.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Apr 25, 2016 -> 04:34 PM) Severely underperforming. The fact is, they're one of the blueprints people are following. The problem is the blueprint isn't new. Teams have always tried it. It's just that it's usually small market teams that can't afford to pay to fill in the holes where the draft failed. Theo and the boys are successful because they did it with Boston and the cubs where they could have one of the highest payrolls in the league to compensate for the holes in teams which is pitching because pitching is more difficult to predict by their metrics.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 25, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) Just to clarify, I don't think Brady should have been suspended but I also didn't buy the first judges reasoning. Correct. Godell followed the procedure the NFLPA agreed to. If they don't like it, change it in the next CBA, but be ready to give up something substantial.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 10:16 PM) Nope, serious. All his peripherals have been great in his minor league career except hits allowed. His command might be too good and throws too many strikes. If that's truly the case, with his command he'll learn and adjust as he matures as a pitcher.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 22, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) If Abreu continues the way he has been, this team has no chance to compete. Robin would have no prayer of keeping this team in games. Yes. Players have to play (well).

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) I wasnt aware that I had to randomly espouse praise for every musician i am a fan of in order to make my appreciation of these musicians "more real" when they pass away If I listen to a musician, am i not celebrating this person? If I watch an actor on TV/in movies, am I not appreciating this person? Does a RIP tweet have to be validated by constant previous praise? I have both Bowie and Prince on my ipod rotation for running. However, I guess I'm not truly a fan unless I sing their praise while running or typing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) Bowie was way more of a performer. Prince was a musician who was a hell of a performer. Agreed. I liked Bowie and listened to his music. He was very creative and a good performer. However, he wasn't the all around musician Price was.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) Yeah, no. Terrible offense did Ding, Ding, Ding!

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) Great pitching, sans Danks. 2 runs in 6 innings is awful, how could a team live with that?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) So true. "That guy whose music I never ever listened to, he was so good at music!! RIP " In this case they happen to be correct.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) I always respected Prince as an entertainer. He pushed the boundaries of showmanship like guys like Freddy Mercury and David Bowie did. What I didn't realize for a long time was how much talent he had as a guitarist too until I saw him play during this Beatles tribute. Prince really takes over and puts some historically great guitarists to shame at about the 3:30 mark of this video. I mean that is Petty, Winwood, and Lynne on stage with him, and they all took a side to Prince. #RIPPrince He is the most talented overall musician I've seen live in the last 40 years. At one of the shows he played every instrument during different songs and had majors solos on each one. He was incredible. That video is one of my favorites and the one that most "non-Prince" fans find. RIP.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) Johnson is a young righty and I'm all about 3 lefty, two righty starters. Also Danks might have some value in the pen. As much as I love him, he is not a very good starter. Who hasn't shown he can get MLB hitters out. Let him earn his way into the rotation by showing he has learned to get MLB hitters out.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) Why is Johnson warming up? If we need a reliever it should be Danks relieving and Johnson starting IMO. Because of johnson's success in the MLB?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 02:17 PM) And to whoever brought up Tyler Flowers, there you go. It was me but it was just a question to those who wanted to run Flowers out of town, not that I preferred one or the other

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) Better off if Avila just doesn't swing. I truly can't believe how bad he is now. Do people ( not necessarily you) still think Flowers had to go and anybody would better better than him?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) White Sox don't hit but win, dark clouds. Cubs don't hit but win. They are going to be unstoppable. Welcome to Soxtalk!

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) All year we have talked about how the team is completely dependent on the 2nd line scoring and Crawford standing on his head. Well, Crawford has been outplayed, and Tarasenko is outscoring the 2nd line 3-1. Case closed. I'm blaming the Cubs. They are using all of Chicago's luck for beating St. Louis teams the last few days.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Apr 20, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) It's just because Abreu needs a break from fielding for a day and Sands can play first. There's no accountability here so it's not disciplinary reasons What did he do that would get him benched for disciplinary reason? I must have missed it.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 19, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) That could change if Danks clanks another outing. I think it will take more than that. Danks has a record in the MLB of being servicable. Johnson hasn't shown he's even capable of pitching in the MLB. I would guess they will give Danks at least 6-8 starts.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) More likely Belt Strain. Strained his shoulder by having to hold up his pants after the belt broke.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) KW admitted he told him zero access, then backed off. Right, he backed off. Adam either forgot that KW backed off or intentionally omits it.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) To be honest the 1,000 people who are following his meat company on Twitter are searching out that negative news. Also who really knows who's running that Twitter handle. It's probably a family member or friend. Him trashing the organization? Where? This franchise threatening to move, getting a stadium that is funded thru tax payers, etc. is a whole lot worse than Adam LaRoche saying anything. It's really a stretch to throw him under the bus and to me, is bad taste. There are a whole lot of MLB players with less integrity. I'd rather have had a guy who want his son around than a guy cheating on his wife. He trashed the organization by saying the organization made me choose, and I pick my son over all of my teammates." The big point in the story is the he says KW asked him to dial back the kid's presence and he said no. He then states that KW told him that his son wasn't allowed at all. KW insisted that there was no comment that he wasn't allowed. You can believe who you want but considering others children have been allowed into the clubhouse since the incident, I'll go with KW's side. If that is the case Adam lied about the situation to make the organization look bad.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 13, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) Yeah this seems to be the first year where I have zero clue what they're going to do in the first round. All the experts are saying OLB, but it's possible with Houston and Young being productive they just stick with that. Safety appears to be a need, but Rolle was pretty solid when healthy and after giving him a 3 year deal I wouldn't be shocked to see him start with a mid rounder behind him. Outside of Ramsey there are no 1st round safety prospects anyway. I kinda thought Porter played well, but advanced stats disagree with that. A corner appears to be high priority. Hargreaves might be there in the first but is this whole "Fangio only wants big corners" thing true or is it moreso he wants aggressive press corners which is what Hargreaves is. Do they consider "Reaching" for Jackson or Apple who fit more of the narrative? Leno is another guy I thought played well but advanced stats hated. Could they look to see if he can improve? If Stanley and Tunsil are gone, do they view Conklin or Decker as LT's?? What do they think of Ego Ferguson? Did Unrein play well enough to consider him for a bigger role? What is Cornellous Washington? Sutton looked good in preseason but barely noticeable in season. With this drafts depth at high end DL talent I would prefer they erase all those questions and draft a go like Vernon Butler or Chris Jones in the 2nd. With them looking to sign CJ Anderson, do they take Zeke if he's there at 11? Is this the year they take a QB in the 1st to groom for the future?( kind of hope not) Can they find a trade down partner?( I prefer this route) Gonna be interesting. Can't wait. I don't think trading down should really be an option. They need impact players. They can find good players in FA as they have done. Impact players are too expensive for FA and hurt the team in the long term. But to be a championship caliber team, they need to draft the impact players.