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QUOTE (scs787 @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:53 AM) What if they had him pitch side sessions on his day off? While it would decrease the intensity and decrease some stress on his body, the amount of work will just be too much. Side sessions are still wear and tear.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:52 AM) Spread out over the next 5.5 months, you don't know what he can or cannot handle. His performance will answer that. Right now, the Sox need wins. If the Sox are out of it on September 15, by all means, shut him down. But if his stuff is good and he's feeling ok in a pennant race, he needs to pitch. 190 through a World Series isn't that high. Ok. they can do this. Just don't scream and yell about how stupid they are when it happens. that innings total is very high for someone who hasn't pitched more than about 130 innings in college when he can take breaks with below average hitters and teams. He must now up the intensity for MLB hitters and throw significantly more innings? This is not the correct way to handle pitchers and the sox will not do it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) And they won't. That is why they are working his innings the way that they are. I agree. They are one of the better organizations for handling pitchers. I'm just trying to get others to see this. If they want Rodon pitching for the sox in the future, it must be handled this way.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:39 AM) All I know is that there is no excuse for him not being in the rotation from here on out. Whether it is Noesi or Danks, neither is a better option. If you are trying to win, he should be starting. Here is the dilemma. Do you prefer the sox have their best pitchers in the regular season or in the latter part of the season and post season? It's as simple as that. He cannot pitch both.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) 26 starts at 5.33 innings per start is 138. I'd protect him by pulling him early in games where he stinks...and that'll happen once in a while. He's a big kid. He should be able to handle 190 innings if the Sox somehow make it deep into October. No he cannot handle 190 innings. Physically it will not be good on his body plus he weill be so worn out he would probably be useless. The Sox cannot force that type of jump in innings and not put him at signifcant injury risk.

QUOTE (scs787 @ May 10, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) Would there be some negative effect from skipping his start once every few weeks? Yes. Physcially, it would be like taking two weeks off from running ,then decide to do some sprinting. It would not be the optimally way to go physically. Plus, he would lose the feel for the pitches and be uncomfortable. I just don't think it would turn out well.

A new brewery just opened for those in the South Burbs. It's in Mokena. It was Tribe Ale house. Now it's Tribes beer company. Just tapped their first brew this week. I knew I had to support the place because one of their first ones was a kolsch so ,as the owner said, they can get out of the Miller contract and not have to sell the pi$$ anymore.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 8, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) Boston fired Nieves. When are the White Sox going to show some accountability and fire their pitching coach for this hot mess? With the 3rd worst starters ERA and the lowest run scoring offense in baseball, how is this team 10-15? Management?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 8, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) Late April right after the payment deadline, we have been receiving an e-mail from the Bears with the opportunity to relocate our seats at a given date and time. Our seats are non-PSL, which probably matters. My friends in the same section have been getting the same e-mail too. Maybe it is the non-PSL because I've never received one of those.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 8, 2015 -> 08:37 AM) At least there is one positive to the Bears suckiness. Two years ago my seats were in the next to last row, I've been able to move 12 rows closer since then. Movin' on up! How did you do that? Do you have to request it?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2015 -> 04:10 AM) Agree completely. Even if he gets rocked I'm glad he's not in that stupid middle relief role anymore. He'll be back in it after they have served their respective suspensions. It is the correct choice.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 3, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) KW and his toolsy players never should of been drafted. Mitchell was off to a 2-for-40 start at Triple-A Charlotte. What goes around comes around. For years this board complained that KW only drafted high floor low ceiling players such as Lance Broadway. Posters begged him to draft more high ceiling athletes who could become stars but also could have the high bust rate. Now its starting to swing the other way.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:21 PM) AJ is available and he is the opposite personality wise of Robin. Since he ia a catcher, he should be named manager. It certainly would generate some wild scenes in the clubhouse. AJ does not have the personality to be a manager. He will not be a manger.

That didn't work. How about a crooked number for runs today.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) They can medicate ADHD. However, the medication, I imagine, tends to not work quite so well if you mix it with mass quantities of THC. I haven't seen anything on it. However, mixing two physiologic depressive drugs does not sound like a good idea.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:06 PM) I remember now, its been a year or so since you had mentioned it so the memory of your posts is a bit foggy,that was many beers ago. Two questions. 1- do you think Rodon's occasional control issues comes from the lack of flexion or is it more about repeating his mechanics? 2- would it be best to leave Rodon alone? The abrupt stop in trunk flexion make it difficult to repeat the mechanics. It's a high effort delivery/follow through IMO. I probably would leave it alone and see if he can smooth it out gradually. From what is said, he is an intelligent pitcher. If he continues to have commend issues, he'll get it. Trying to make major changes before he has failures really isn't the way to go for any pitcher. He has always had success so this will be his learning curve. Hopefully, he can make the adjustments.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 1, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) One thing I always think about when you think about BPA is scarcity. You can have the BPA, full stop. Player X will produce this much value, which is more than any other individual player. Or you can have the BPA, considering positional scarcity. So maybe you think Mariota isn't going to be a star, but will be a solid-average QB. You think Leonard Williams will be a star. However, you think there are lots of DL available that will be successful, but maybe only a handful of QBs. Is Mariota the best player available, then? Both scenarios don't factor in the team's needs, just simple facts about which positions have deeper talent pools. Joe Gibbs and Bill Parcells always talked about the number of Pro Bowl players. I believe the number they used was six. If you have 6 Pro bowl players, they could fill in the rest and have a shot at the Super Bowl. In other words you needed 6 impact players to really have a shot. It's more to have the impact players than the well rounded "bunch of good players."

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ May 1, 2015 -> 11:59 AM) Thanks for sharing, very incitful. Ptatc, Weren't you the member that posted concerns about Rodon in reference to the trunk? I thought you had specifically mentioned the trunk after watching scouting videos on Rodon. Yes, that was me. The original comments were pre-draft. It was more in relation to his lack of trunk flexion during his follow through. I mentioned I thought it could be an issue with his control and possible increased stress on his shoulder. However, I also said that it would not prevent me from drafting him as the talent was too great to pass up. The best player available discussion.

I didn't know where to put this but many posters discuss how to increase velocity. Here is a really good article that shows a significant correlation between mechanics and velocity. It basically states that contralateral trunk lean during the middle of the acceleration phase it directly correlated to increased velocity. For a right handed pitcher the more they lean to the left the faster the pitch. Lateral Trunk Lean in Pitchers Affects Both Ball Velocity and Upper Extremity Joint Moments Matthew J. Solomito, MS*,†, Erin J. Garibay, MS†, Jessica R. Woods, BSBE‡, Sylvia Õunpuu, MSc‡ and Carl W. Nissen, MD§ + Author Affiliations †Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Research, Connecticut Children’s Medical Center, Farmington, Connecticut, USA ‡Center for Motion Analysis, Connecticut Children’s Medical Center, Farmington, Connecticut, USA §Elite Sports Medicine, Connecticut Children’s Medical Center, Farmington, Connecticut, USA Investigation performed at the Center for Motion Analysis, Connecticut Children’s Medical Center, Farmington, Connecticut, USA ↵* Matthew J. Solomito, MS, Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Research, Connecticut Children’s Medical Center, 399 Farmington Avenue, Farmington, CT 06032, USA (email: [email protected]). Abstract Background: The incidence of upper extremity injuries in baseball pitchers is increasing. Over the past decade there has been a great deal of research attempting to elucidate the cause of these injuries, focusing mainly on the mechanics of the pitching arm with no examination of other key segments, such as the trunk. This is surprising, as coaches will often comment on trunk position in an effort to improve pitching outcomes. Purpose: To determine the association between contralateral trunk lean and ball velocity and the moments about the elbow and glenohumeral joint. Study Design: Descriptive laboratory study. Methods: A total of 99 pitchers were recruited for this study and underwent a pitching analysis using 3-dimensional motion analysis techniques. A random intercept mixed-effects regression model was used to determine if statistically significant associations existed between contralateral trunk lean (away from the pitching arm side) and ball velocity, as well as the elbow varus moment and glenohumeral internal rotation moment. Results: The results demonstrated that the greatest contralateral trunk lean occurs around the time of the peak elbow varus moment. Statistically significant associations were found between contralateral trunk lean and increased ball velocity (P = .003) indicating that for every 10° increase in contralateral lean, ball velocity increased 0.5 m/s. Results also indicated that for every 10° increase in contralateral lean, elbow varus moments increased by 3.7 N·m and glenohumeral internal rotation moments increased by 2.5 N·m (P Conclusion: Study findings indicate that the positioning of the trunk plays a substantial role in pitching performance and pitcher injury potential. This work helps to demonstrate the importance of proper trunk mechanics in pitching and highlights the need for future research to understand the contribution of the trunk to pitching mechanics. Clinical Relevance: Pitching coaches and trainers can use the results of this study to stress the importance of proper trunk mechanics in pitching. Specifically, improving core strength and trunk control in an effort to maintain a more upright posture through the pitching cycle can reduce upper extremity joint stresses.

Here is the abstract of an excellent article just published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine. Unfortunately, I could upload the article as it's too big. Basically says that pitchers who are successful in the MLB post UCL reconstruction bring their mechanics to within an insignificant difference from the "norm." Rafael F. Escamilla,z{ PhD, PT, Toran D. MacLeod,{ PhD, PT, and James R. Andrews,yz MD Investigation performed at the American Sports Medicine Institute, Birmingham, Alabama, USA Background: A relatively high number of active professional baseball pitchers have a history of ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction (UCLr) on their throwing elbow. Controversy exists in the literature about whether professional baseball pitchers regain optimal performance after return from UCLr. It has been suggested that pitchers may have different biomechanics after UCLr, but this has not been previously tested. Hypothesis: It was hypothesized that, compared with a control group without a history of UCLr, professional pitchers with a history of UCLr would have (1) significantly different throwing elbow and shoulder biomechanics; (2) a shortened stride, insufficient trunk forward tilt, and excessive shoulder horizontal adduction, characteristics associated with ‘‘holding back’’ or being tentative; (3) late shoulder rotation; and (4) improper shoulder abduction and trunk lateral tilt. Study Design: Controlled laboratory study. Methods: A total of 80 active minor league baseball pitchers (and their 8 Major League Baseball organizations) agreed to participate in this study. Participants included 40 pitchers with a history of UCLr and a matched control group of 40 pitchers with no history of elbow or shoulder surgery. Passive ranges of motion were measured for each pitcher’s elbows and shoulders, and then 23 reflective markers were attached to his body. The pitcher took as many warm-up pitches as desired and then threw 10 full-effort fastballs for data collection. Ball speed was recorded with a radar gun. The reflective markers were tracked with a 10-camera, 240-Hz automated motion analysis system. Eleven biomechanical parameters were computed for each pitch and then averaged for each participant. Demographic, range of motion, and biomechanical parameters were compared between the UCLr group and the control group by use of Student t tests (significance set at P\.05). Results: All hypotheses were rejected, as there were no differences in pitching biomechanics between the UCLr group and the control group. There were also no differences in passive range of motion between the 2 groups. Conclusion: Compared with a control group, active professional pitchers with a history of UCLr displayed no significant differences in shoulder and elbow passive range of motion and no significant differences in elbow and shoulder biomechanics. Clinical Relevance: Clinical studies have previously shown that 10% to 33% of professional pitchers do not return to their preinjury level; however, the current study showed that those pitchers who successfully return to professional baseball after UCLr pitch with biomechanics similar to that of noninjured professionals. Keywords: Tommy John surgery; elbow varus torque; kinematics; kinetics

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2015 -> 08:32 AM) He was on Polian's do not draft list. He mentioned he had off the field issues, and then quietly said that's not all. Yes, he implied that he may not be able to "understand" NFL defenses.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) Being a genius on the sidelines doesn't automatically qualify you to be a genius in the front office, and vice versa. No but if you can, you can be usually successful for a long period of time ala Belichick.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) Except the Rangers and Royals have been first in hbp all season long....since opening day. That's my point. They will be hit when they have been headhunting and Ventura (Royals) started it opening day with the Sox. The Royals will be leading in hbp all season if they keep it up. If they would hit players in the hip, other teams would not hit them as often. When you throw at the head, even if you don't always hit them, you will be hit more.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:23 AM) Here is a list of good qb's taken outside the first two rounds of the draft over the past ten years. Russell Wilson. Maybe Matt Schaub. He was pretty good for a few years. Matt Flynn? He was 7th round.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 29, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) Scary moment for Alcides Escobar, drilled in the face by Carasco tonite. They're paying for ventura's earlier headhunting.