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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 10:36 PM) I'm pretty sure Robin isn't a fan of A.J.'s, so I seriously doubt Hahn would think he's worth the trouble. Very few that have pkayed with him are.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:15 AM) I just want to point out that there were whole articles written about Cooper spending time in camp for the Fall Instructs this year. He actually was quoted talking about being excited to see guys like Brennan, Trexler, and other semi-obscure guys. He clearly spends some time with the minor leaguers, even if only very occasionally. The bigger effect is indirect I'm sure - Cooper exerting his philosophy down through the roving and minor league pitching coaches, and receiving reports back up. But there is clearly at least some direct work too. I know he spends time there. He talks to them as well. However, he doesn't get alot of time to really work with them on mechanics and issues. He just doesn't have the time to dolearn their mechanics and make changes. This is why they have the minor league instructors. This is what the discussion was about.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 11:12 AM) A again? Because that is the order. With my OCD order must be followed.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) White Sox have been paper champions a lot of years. I'd like this to be the year they take it. BUt we haven't earned being the favorites. I recall this differently. I recall the Sox consistently outperforming these projection. The reason usally given was that it always assumed a certain level of pitching injuries and the Sox have been one of the healthiest.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) To assume that Johnson will be starting at 2B - unless the Sox just don't give a s*** about his measurable readiness - and Rodon will put up 2 WAR is ludicrously optimistic. This isn't about "what could be," this is about what is the most likely outcome if weighting every possibility based on its individual likelihood. This is the most likely outcome based on the metrics this group uses. You should clarify that. In the medical world, I never based my conclusion on anything just one person/group says.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) Those guys didnt try to create a fake website to hide their guilt. Did the crime, did the time. He gets caught again there are penalties. If we penalize players for being idiots or a$$holes, professional sports would not exist.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 07:41 AM) I'd say that on paper this team has had a stunningly successful offseason. There are still issues like the bench setup but the roster on paper is strong enough that there's little reason to think they will be major issues and one or two minor moves could really help that. From an emotional perspective alone I don't like this guy in particular, let alone a guy from Valpo but I'll get past that. From this point there's literally no excuse for this team to miss the playoffs. Anything less is a huge failure. I would disagree. Detroit is still a better team overall and has the experience. Cleveland is a solid team as well. Who knows if the Royals can repeat the magic or whatever they pulled last year. The Sox cannot determine what the other teams will do. However, you can say it's a failure if they don't win X number of games. I'm putting that at 88 personally. I think you are setting it up to say "see the moves were bad and Robin is an idiot because they didn't make the playoffs."

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) 3rd active player... They've had others too. Ozuna Manny Even Rowand had some speculation Many more if you want to go by rumors and speculation.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 06:23 PM) Wouldn't Cooper have "hands on" work with him since he's on the 40-Man this upcoming ST? Maybe a little. But he doesn't spend much time in the minor league camp. Just because they are on the 40, doesn't mean they are in the major league camp.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 09:22 PM) Steroids is the preferred medical term Testosterone, the synthetic version is usually what they use to beat the tests.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 08:15 PM) If Danks was making 500K, I wouldn't hate him. Why do you hold injuries against him? I've never understood this with people.

Roids seems to be a polarizing subject.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) Chicago pizza, blech. I did go to Pequods though, which, next to Pizanos, is the only one I actively look forward to. You are now hated more than what half of Soxtalk hates Melky. I think the admins should ban you for life. It is the only good pizza. Aurelio's thin crust and Giordano's/Edwardo's deep dish.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) They haven't negotiated a deal yet, I'm guessing the penalty they're talking about relates to a guy who goes through the full arbitration process and is released rather than signs an actual extension. As of right now, the $4.4 million is an estimate produced by Baseball-Reference's calculator. Thanks, got it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) To each their own, but I just hope you are consistent and never support or celebrate the 2005 team, there were some cheaters on that roster too. I must have missed it, who from that team got caught for PEDs? I know the ruors and friends of mine you see things but I don't know who got caught.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) I know the testing process gets mocked a lot, but I for one like to believe that MLB is truly doing whatever it can to make it as hard to cheat as possible. I'd like to think that Melky is clean now, and was last year when he had a good year, so in my mind I'm rooting for a good clean baseball player...Living in the past is no fun. It is. Short of the olympics pilot program of getting a baseline of all international athletes, it is the best in sports. Although the NFL is going to blood testing so they are getting there as well.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Right before Paulie hit his WS grand slam, Jermaine Dye was HBP. The problem was, the ball hit his bat ,not him. He took first base. Later, he was named MVP of the WS. Was anyone here sickened when this cheater was applauded through the streets of Chicago? But to each his own. Everyone has a reason to like or dislike a player. As Rock said, cheer for the name on the front. As long as wife beaters ,child molestors etc. aren't on the team, it's pretty easy to separate the two. That wasn't Dye intentionally cheating. That was the umpire being wrong. different scenarios

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 02:10 PM) Why? Because some of us despise the idea of having Melky on the team? Just cause I don't want to support Melky doesn't mean I'm a miserable fan. The good news is all the Sox fans who don't think we are contenders have to shut up now and realize we are contenders. This is NOT a rebuilding situation. Sox have reloaded and are planning on contending which means Robin has no excuses. Nobody has any excuses. This is a championship roster even though I hate having Melky around. This wasn't the question. The question was do you have trouble supporting the Sox because of him.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) Rodon is a future potential ace. He has been compared to David Price in the past. He probabky needs a little seasoning , also that will help the Sox gain an extra season of control with him. It remains to be seen what kind of innings total he could safely put up in 2015, and most rookies have their troubled moments. I doubt it will be 2015, but there is a chance Rodon is a better pitcher than anyone not named Sale on the White Sox staff in the near future. As for Danks, I don't think he will get traded. I think Viciedo is a goner. The Sox won't have him go more than 160-175 in 2015.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) Dear Santa Hahn, I know that Christmas is your busy time of year, and that you've been so generous with we Sox fans in answering all of our wishes, but I have one final request: Please sign Jed Lowrie to an incentive-laden, one-year deal. He is relatively young (30), plays an outstanding 2B (6.0 UZR), and is an excellent buy low candidate given his below average BABIP (.281). A one-year deal allows Sanchez and Johnson another year to develop (they need it), and compensates for our relative offensive weaknesses at 3B and C. That being said, I realize that I am both greedy and just a Clown, so I will STFU and let you weave your magic. With Love, AtC Why would Lowrie sign for that?

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) That's right. Hahn has until two weeks before Opening Day to move him and only be on the hook for 750K, instead of 4.4M. I believe that release of DV at that point in time is the backup plan to moving him. So if they release him and another team signs him, what is the salary? The negotiated deal or some portion of the 4.4 million?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) And please don't lump Brett Myers in with the roiders, Myers was a f***in scumbag, that was one guy I truly never wanted on the Sox. Yes. There is a difference between just being an a$$ and trying to cheat at baseball.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) I really hate Flowers, that guy took roids and tries to frame pitches, the ultimate cheater. I think he stole a few bases too. Criminal. Although I think he has tried to stop a few people from stealing as well so maybe he is trying to make amends.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) I cheer for both. Applauded Frank when he was with other teams, laughed when Garland gave up 2 home runs to him, cheered for him against any other team. Still like watching Buehrle pitch. Hated watching Konerko playing as a shell of his former self because of what the player had once been. Definitely did not enjoy watching guys like ManRoid, Brett Myers put on our uniform. Will figure out how to cheer for name on front, but doesn't mean I ignore the name on the back. Exactly, there are very few people in the world who I can say I truly dislike. The white sox happen to have one on the team during the WS run. Did that mean I didn't enjoy the win, No. You do not need to like everyone on the team. I guarantee you that not everyone will like each other on the team. I've never worked for one where everyone liked each other. They just need to all work at winning. Thus, I will cheer for them all to win.

QUOTE (MAX @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 01:05 PM) I also have no faith that he did not cheat after that and I belive that his numbers that got him this contract might be inflated. I have no faith in this man's character at all. Does everyone not recall the deviousness he orchestrated with his agent on making a fake product webpage? Only when caught in that too, did he come clean. He is a false person, and I will not be put in a position of rooting for him. I am just trying to decide if it makes sense to root for 24 men on the team and root against 1. How is that going to be enjoyable for me? Thanks, Hahn. You can root for the team and boo when he comes to the plate. That's the great part about being a fan, no rules. I don't think I've ever rooted for a team where I've liked every single player, except as a kid when you don't know any bettr.