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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) I think Anderson has more value than that. Especially since Samardjia isn't even signed past 2015. It worked out trading highly thought of prospects for Freddy Garcia. Even though 2 of 3 were busts, it didn't work out trading for Nick Swisher. The way pitching is really starting to dominate, I think the Sox are better off keeping Anderson, signing a back end guy, and if they still want Samardjia, sign him next winter. I agree, if there is no contract extension however if the sox get an extension, proven top end starters are more valuable.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:19 AM) Like I said earlier, only way I trade Anderson is if Shark and Upton is coming to the Sox. I think you far over valuing Anderson. I'm not saying he can't be a star but he is a years from even being brought to chicago.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:16 AM) That's my thoughts too. Seems like them for Shark is far too much. Maybe the sox are getting the prospect ss oakland just got from toronto.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 11:04 AM) So the question is did he delete it because he realized he would cause a s*** storm and he meant something else, or because he is really traded and is not supposed to let it go public until it is announced. If he is gone, and Samardjia is all that is coming back, this waiting years to build a foundation is BS. He is the one guy the drafted who actually seems to be developing. Maybe but what is wrong with a trade with prospect that is a couple of years away, if he makes it all for a proven #2 or 3 starting mlb pitcher? If the sox get an extension that is.

QUOTE (Soxfan916 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 11:10 PM) https://www.google.com/search?q=juan+pierre...024&bih=671 It's the one second from the left in the top row.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 10:02 PM) Overstock from a bad giveaway day that were better off in season ticket holder hands rather than the garbage... Supposedly. I'm looking at it right now. It's a different bobblehead as it is him sliding head first and the whole body bobbles above the ground.

The best way to grill one is to grind bacon up like hamburger then mix the beef and the bacon to roughly 1/2 and 1/2. Then grill it to a medium rare and the beacon is in the burger.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) I like your style. I'd add bacon to that blue burger Fav fast food is tough, so many choices for different types of burgers. Sometimes I was thin and crispy and sometimes juicy and thick. I like anything from Mickeys to five guys. If I make it at home I sear it medium rare with cheddar or blue and bacon. Those are my staples. If I have jalapeños ill grill them as well. For fast food 5 guys is the best. There is a place here where the owner takes a ball of Blue cheese, wraps it in hamburger then wraps it in bacon. After he cooks it it is about the size of a 12 inch softball. You need to let it cool for 20 miutes then pop it. It deflates to an inch and a half patty. It is the best bacon blue burger created.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Something doesn't add up, that's for sure. Better ways on handling this than running to Gloria Allred. Probably trying to use the fame of this story as a way to get more money. What's crazy is that if she succeeds, he could get suspended without pay. How does that help the kid financially which is what they are claiming.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 12:41 PM) I quoted jenks in that post on a side-discussion, I responded to you in a separate post? Sorry, I didn't realize that. In respose, I'm sure it happens. Is it right probably not but if someone sees the same behavior over and over again they probably are a little sensitive to it. Kind of like diagnosing a patient. I look at the sign and symptoms and can determine the probelm most of the time without touching the patient. Is it always right, no. Usually it is but it's human nature to watch for patterns.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) Walking towards somebody with your hands up in a classic surrender mode should not be considered so threatening as to justify killing someone, but we can agree to disagree on that one. Yes we can can diagree. The officer had no way of knowing if a person you just assaulted him was tricking him by pretending to surrender so he could get close enough to attack him again. The story totally changes if Brown stops with his hands up. You have more confidence in people who are willing to commit crimes and assault police officers than I do.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 12:34 PM) Do you think the common perception of being pulled over for a "DWB" or "Driving While Black" has no basis in reality? Don't try to deflect the discussion. I haven't said a thing about that and really don't care to discuss it. I was discussing this case and the facts of this case. That is the point of this discussion.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) Right, I've said that several witnesses said he was either walking or staggering forward with his arms up or out. That's a pretty important distinction from Wilson's claim that he was charging at him head-first and seemed to be "bulking up" with every bullet. And I've said repeatedly, that it doesn't matter. Any movement toward a person who you just assaulted should be considered threatening. The officer had every right to feel threatened by a person who had just assaulted him.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) What forensic evidence? Where can we see the actual evidence or a review of that evidence by an expert witness and not just a reference to it in a GJ question? Why are you privileging Wilson and the "several others'" (no firm number? how are you so sure then?) testimony above other conflicting testimony? All of the witnesses, that I've read, agree that he was moving toward the officer. Some say he was "charging" others say he was waling with his hands up. But all agree he was moving toward him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 09:31 AM) if he had his hands up and was yelling something like "I give up" and the cop continued shooting, an entirely reasonable response would be to slowly walk towards him with his hands up so that he could hear him. I don't agree. The officer doesn't know if Brown is tricking him by saying he is surrendering and is just waiting until he is close enough to attack him again. When you give up you stop and possibly kneel or sit down not continue at the officer. Either way even if it was his intention to give up, the officer had every right to feel threatened when a person who just attacked him was coming toward him again.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 09:09 AM) Twice, with what doesn't appear to be much effect: Somebody punching you in the face twice doesn't generally justify deadly force in response. So because the kid punched him but it didn't leave much of a mark the officer has no right to feel threatened. Maybe if he punches him and stops there it doesn't. However, when the officer tells him to stop and he continues to advance on him the officer has every right to feel threatened. I don't think someone should die for it either. A non-lethal weapon would have been better, but he didn't have that option. He should have had a stun gun. I know he explained it but it still would have been better. If Brown would have stopped and gave up. It wouldn't have happened. He continued to advance toward the officer and the officer had every right to feel threatened.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 26, 2014 -> 08:28 AM) Was he slowly walking towards the guy with the gun 30 feet away or was he charging like the Hulk? These are the kind of details that could be hashed out in an actual trial, or at least by an investigation from an independent prosecutor. Which witnesses were in the appropriate place to see that behavior? How rapidly was he moving at the end. How many agree that his hands were up? How long would it have taken him to take the steps required based on the position he reached? How have the witnesses stories, including that of the shooter, changed with time? Are either of those inconsistent with the autopsy results? The grand jury with a "witness dump" simply is in no position to evaluate these issues. In the process of putting together an actual case, a prosecutor would have to answer questions like that in order to tell their side of the story of what actually happened. Because this was a trial with no prosecutor, none of that ever happened, there was no effort to evaluate how these witness statements fit together or to paint a coordinated picture on behalf of the deceased. Doesn't matter. If you continue to advance toward an individual you have already repeatedly punched in the face, the individual has every right to feel threatened. both parties are probably exaggerating a little. The officer trying to say he was charging the others side of witnesses say he he was slowly moving. Either way the fact that he was advancing toward and person he has already attacked gives that person a right to feel threatened.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) In a fair system, this would not go over well with cross examination, but that's why it shouldn't have been tried by a grand jury. That's what was reported by witnesses. He continued to walk toward the officer with his hands up as the officer was shooting him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:24 PM) No. They met like once a week and unlike most grand juries where a prosecutor presents enough evidence to get an indictment after which point a trial would start the prosecutor decided to present all of the evidence, including testimony of the defendant. All of which is not particularly common and makes a decent case that the prosecutor was trying to make sure an indictment did not happen. Good. That makes much more sense.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) Batteries? Lighter fluid on police cars as well.

It said in an article that the grand jury has been seated since May. Are they sequestered like a regular jury? Having this going since May is crazy.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 05:27 PM) It's not reversed when a cop is involved. But we're at a grand jury level here, no a full trial. The burden is simply probable cause, not beyond a reasonable doubt. If a full, public trial can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, okay. But so far as we can tell with just some leaks from the GJ, the "probable cause" seems to have been met. You also don't have "at best" split testimony in this case, though. You've got the guy who killed Brown and is trying to avoid a murder charge and, from what's publicly known, multiple witnesses all telling a different story from the one Wilson is and more or less similar to each other. They all agree that he's surrendering. Some believe Wilson fired at Brown as he was fleeing, others don't appear to say one way or the other. All agree that he was fatally shot while facing Wilson. Most seem to agree that he staggered towards Wilson possibly after being shot again, but none support Wilson's version of being charged. They all agree he has his hands up but continues to move toward the officer. This is the part where the story loses credibility to me. I can't envision a scenario where the officer feels threatened but tells Brown to continue to walk toward him. He would tell him to get down and stay still so he can handcuff him. So., even if he is attempting to surrender, he is still increasing the threat by walking toward the officer.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) The problem with trading Sale is it would be unprecedented. There's no such deal that has happened. Someone's going to come at me with the Teixera deal but that was just Daniels doing his HW and getting the Braves to pay a premium for a guy at the end of his rookie contract. The only comparables I can think of would be the Ricky Williams and Herschel Walker and those aren't even in the MLB. Off the top of my head weren't the trades for Dan Haren, Randy Johnson and Bartolo Colon pretty big ones?

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 24, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) Yup. I am now in the group of folks that feel an over pay is in order if a team wants to acquire Alexei. Thank you Hanley and Boston. Or does this make bogaerts available and pushes Alexei's value down?

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 23, 2014 -> 07:20 PM) Semien is 100%, without a doubt, the best MIF prospect in our system. I'll take Anderson