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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) i hope it is Louis-Jean. That guy lasted until the final cuts, and Frey was bounced pretty quickly. ALJ looks like a ball hawk Kelvin Hayden is an option as well.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) Just cause Jay lifted his leg doesn't necessarily mean he was calling for the ball. I'm not saying he wasn't either but there's plenty of instances where the first leg lift isn't necessarily the call. True. But if you were watching the game that is the signal there were using when they couldn't hear because the crowd was so loud. Cutler would lift his leg and Ola would watch. Once he did this Ola would tap DLP (i like that initial better) to tell him to snap the ball. It worked all game except the one instance, which is pretty good considering the noise on the field.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) Exactly. Plus that putrid start had one drive where we started inside our 10...another drive where our back-up center snapped it 20 yards back and put us in an impossible predicament, a drive where Alshon / Marshall dropped potential first down catches, and a drive where Cutler threw a beautiful ball to Bennett, who juggled it and made the catch only to have it overturned on a lousy play. The key was on a couple plays where things went south, Jay threw the ball away. Don't make the turnovers and you can turn the field position battle a bit. Of course with our special teams unit, it is almost impossible. They are so bad. I almost think they should just punt it out of bounds each time. Prevent a return and a penalty...sure you lose a bit on yardage but at least you don't have the downside of a long td run and constant penalties. Uggh. How did DeCamilis keep his job. Seriously. Defense played admirably and did a nice job against the type of offense they historically struggle against. Briggs played well, Allen showed up, Willie Young is a beast. That said, if they made tackles, game ends a lot sooner. Coverage still was soft at times and I hope Conte / Tillman etc can somehow return. Presume Tillman's career is over but hoping it isn't. That wasn't the center's fault. Cutler lifted his leg to call for the ball, Ola tapped De La Punte as he was supposed to. Cutler looked away after he called for it. It was low but Cutler can't look away after he calls for the snap.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 10:17 AM) Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 1h Tooth lodged in cheek. Hole in lip so big doc's index finger fit in it. And get this: Giancarlo Stanton still wants to return this season. Craig Minervini ‏@CraigMinervini 7h #Giancarlo in good spirits, saying he was uplifted by his mates. Dental work on 3 teeth in Miami. Fractures will heal, no surgery expected There is no way he should be allowed to return this season unless they go deep in the playoffs. Fractures take 4-6 weeks to heal. Facial fractures can be very small bones and need at least this time. He is putting alot at risk returning earlier than that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:21 PM) Even if Martinez was using steroids, a ton of hitters were also using them, so you'd have to say it was close to a level playing field...even in that context. Any time a pitcher breaks down due to injuries, there will be questions...then again, we've had more elbow injuries than at any point in the history of the game and most of these TJ's are not being connected to steroid usage/abuse to my knowledge. On a hypothetical basis, the PEDs prevent injuries to pitchers, especially TJ. The UCL gets stretched or sprained when the flexor muscles no longer give enough support. The PEDs will allow this group of muscles a longer period of support thus decreasing the opportunity for injury. Pitchers used the PEDs not so much for increased power but for increased endurance and shorter recovery time. Maybe this is aprt of the reason for the increase in TJ surgeries? I doubt it is a significant factor as I still think it's more the over throwing. However it's something to consider.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 06:04 PM) Pedro in 2000 had an ERA of 1.74. That was an ERA plus of (get ready...) 291. Sale's ERA+ is "only" 190. Pedro Martinez is possibly the greatest pitcher of all time. You check his B-Ref page and it blows you away. Dude was dominating during the steroid era, just filthy. That is probably the reason he was dominate.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 07:38 PM) Bassitt's looking good so far. Nice late movement on his pitches. I really like him. I saw him pitch live last week. He is going to be a good 4-5 pitcher. Maybe 3 at the ceiling. He's smart, knows how to pitch and usually gets strike 1. He's not going to be an All-Start but he is going to be a useful pitcher in the rotation.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) Yeah, his response was logical - if I tackle him they win anyway, so I went for the ball. It's hilarious to me that people can ignore how awful guys like Tillman played but place the blame on Conte. Exactly, he was thinking about the big picture, about how to win the game. Not just "make the tackle."

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) I actually prefer second half Abreu. He's been hitting like Miguel Cabrera. Sure I'd like to see a few more homers, but you can't complain about a .438 OBP and .534 SLG. There is some room for complaints as the OBP and SLG increase the chances for runs, the HR actually are runs. I agree however that the better hitter with fewer HRs is more productive for the team, once the players around him improve.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) It depends on if you have a contract and what your contract says but most people are at-will employees and can be fired with or without cause by their employer. Ok. I see all the responses. I guess, I better start being nicer at work.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) We can't. But your employer can fire you for a whole myriad of reasons, this being one of them. The NFL has a conduct policy, and very clearly stipulates a whole list of reasons you can be fired from your job (aka have your contract terminated). It also has the right to bar you from working from them again, just like any other company does. Does the employer have the right to fire you without justification? I'm truly asking as I don't know. Right now Rice can say he had no legal action taken against him. Why should the business take action when the courts didn't Again don't take this as I agree. I think he should have been prosecuted. But since he wasn't, I don't know the justification.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) This falls outside of the CBA. I don't think so. I think it's part of the " ethics/personal conduct" part of the agreement and contracts. Just about everything that has to do with employment and punishment goes through the CBA. edit: I see the information from above. I always thought that was in the CBA. I guess it's just " we can change it if we need to"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) No workplace should want to be associated with this sort of behavior. I have no problem with someone losing their job for it. In any business, the employees of a company are a large part of their image. Getting rid of people who don't fit that image does not bother me in the least. I'm not saying people should accept this type of crime, but I'm just not sure anyone would lose their job when there was no prosecution. I'm not a lawyer but would anyone really lose their job when there was no conviction in court? I personally think he should go to jail for a long time regardless. Let her enjoy his money without him having the opportunity to touch her. But we can't just do whatever we want to someone outside of the court system.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) At some point, to set up harsher penalties someone has to be the first one to get them, so all of the historical BS of how they looked the other direction strawman will be there. If it wasn't Ray Rice, it was the next guy, or the guy after him. f*** the NFL for looking the other way for this for so long, and all of the other felony's they pretend don't happen. Hopefully some day they join the rest of the world in not wanting to associate with the people who beat their spouses, or any of the other felony's. But this isn't a felony because there was no conviction. In all other cases they wait for the legal system to take it's course, just like the guy in San Francisco. Why is it up to the NFL to provide justice?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) As long as we focus all of the lemmings on Ray Rice no one will look at the other actual bad things that are going on, or the fact that no one in the NFL actually cares, they just care about their image, and Ray Rice got caught on tape. Of course the only thing they care about is their image. It's all about making money. The NFL isn't here to "police" society or their players. This is the job of the legal system. They wanted Rice to stay in the league because it makes the Ravens a better team and the league will make more money. He wasn't convicted of anything so the punishment was light. It's only with the outcry from the public, which may hurt their business, that they decided to get tougher.

QUOTE (TRU @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) See I agree with this. What I don't agree with is no outrage over Josh Brent. Literally not a word about it. Because the crime wasn't malicious in intent and he was prosecuted and he served his time. If rice is prosecuted and serves his time determined by the legal system he should get a second chance. The problem is the way he got out of being prosecuted and wasn't being punished.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 11:43 AM) Not saying you're wrong, but it's so frustrating that the idea of shrinking the schedule is such a non-starter. You're right, the profit-driven owner would never even consider it. Fact is though, it would be so much better for the sport in numerous, far-reaching ways. Profit driven owners or greedy players/agents for demanding more?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 12:03 AM) So who else got f***ed by Julius Thomas tonight?? Hoping for a huge day out of Calvin Johnson tomorrow to pull out a win. I would have been but Patterson had a big day to offset it somewhat.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 6, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) I worship Paulie, I'm just saying there's no reason to play with a broken hand when it's your last season. It's not a fractured hand really. It's to the sesamoid bone. They are two little bones at the base of the thumb that serve as guides and protectors for the thumb flexor tendon. There are about half the size of a pea. It really doesn't effect the function of the hand other than it hurts like crazy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 05:57 PM) 162 game averages look better for him because he missed a lot of time right? Even if you don't believe the small differences in numbers, career Wins Above Replacement gives a good way of comparing relatively how much damage a guy has done over his career. Right now, Mauer is at about 45 WAR regardless of where we look. That's about at the level of guys like Mark Grace, that's behind David Ortiz, etc. For a hall of famer I want to see a guy get a lot more than that, to clearly stand out. At the very least for Mauer based on those numbers we need to start thinking about him putting up 3 more All-Star level seasons, and that might be hard as a 1b since he'll have to hit more as a catcher to get past guys like Abreu who tear it up at that position. At around 60 WAR, you start getting into guys like Sheffield, Andy Pettitte, Chase Utley who have had long enough careers that you can legitimately start thinking about them being borderline. Notably, I don't think those guys are hall of famers, they're hall of very good. Once you start getting past 60, then you can start really making the case that a guy did a lot of damage for a very long time, really start going into their numbers and ask "is this guy a hall of famer". Again, don't focus on the exact numbers, use that as a scale. Mauer has put up 5 WAR seasons in his career but that's as a catcher. For him to do that as a 1b, he needs to do the kind of damage Jose Abreu has done, and this year he's been no where near that. Does he have a 3-4 year burst like that in him in his early 30's? I'd say I'm skeptical. He has a long way to go. His peak wasn't long enough or extreme enough to carry him and his body seems to be wearing down. If he'd kept up the 2009 form for a couple years that could have done it, but he didn't. He had one incredible year, a series of very good years, but we don't put guys in the Hall of Fame for being very good, we put them in there for being great. It's sad to think that a guy having the season like Abreu is only 5 games better than a replacement player let alone an average player. It really shows that one player really doesn't make much difference in baseball.

QUOTE (Buster Posey @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 05:39 PM) A friend asked me earlier this week if I thought Joe Mauer belongs in the Hall of Fame. I think he does, but I wanted to see what the rest of you think. Mauer's lifetime numbers aren't especially impressive aside from his batting average and OBP, but if one looks at his 162-game averages, the case for his HOF induction becomes much stronger. That he's won multiple Silver Slugger Awards and Gold Gloves--as well as an MVP--also helps his argument. Thoughts? I don't think he's done it long enough yet. He seems to be tailing off as well. His OPS is slightly better than Konerko while konerko did it over 7-8 more years. Everyone really agrees that PK doesn't belong there.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) I agree with this. That's a huge risk. Would anyone put money on more than 8 carries from Spiller? It may happen but very scary. The coaches quote was they wanted to get him 20 touches a game so tat's why they went with him on kickoffs. But Spiller vs. the Bears defense is tempting. I'm leaning towards Bell as his work is supposed to increase this year due to Bush being worn down at the end of last year.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 5, 2014 -> 04:11 PM) He's injured, but not done. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/507999273318113280 This is a pretty rare injury. Just need to wait for the pain (inflammation) to go down.

Spiller or J. Bell from Detroit in a PPR league for RB2.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) I couldn't have been more wrong about Pete Carroll and I hate it Agreed.