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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 15, 2014 -> 06:50 AM) How many Manfred Mann jokes do you think have been made since the vote last night? I'm pretty sure most of them have a form of "blinded by the light" in them Springsteen! Can't let that go without a reference to the Boss. Especially since baseball has a new Boss but he isn't the Boss.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 05:05 PM) Hurts right at the top of the kneecap where I'm holding it and under the kneecap. That's more the patella femoral pain then. Follow the exercise program. I stated earlier in the thread for greg775. He has a similar issue. You need to get the pressure out from under the patella. The exercises will for lack of a better way to explain, help the patella to track better.

I'm surprised how many people said they would stop watching baseball if they moved. Are there that many fans of the team that really aren't fans of the game in general? As for myself, I remember thinking about this when they almost moved to Tampa. I would still be a fan of the Sox but probably only go to local minor league games.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) And yet most football games only have 3-4 minutes of ACTUAL action. Yes, but wagering on football with a point spread is much easier.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 02:56 PM) You can develop players on the practice squad. He wouldn't clear waivers or the football equivalent.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 14, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) I will go on record as disagreeing with you both. Fales will be the #3 quarterback on the team. They drafted him to develop him not to play this year.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) Ah, like how they wear skirts in softball He was referring to collisions. No one has a sense of humor anymore.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 05:09 PM) When was the last time a broadcaster angrily and sarcastically referred to players wearing skirts? I'm going to guess 1955. In this case it's somewhat appropriate. This implies playing sports like females. In collision sports such as hockey or lacrosse there is far less hitting because the rules dictate that hitting is less tolerated. So if the new rules dictate less hitting. It is more like the female version of these sports. Sorry for the sarcastic humor. This game really makes me angry at the game of baseball, which I truly love to watch.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) I think Hawk is embarrassing himself. I'm not referring to this particular tag play The difference between "the good old days" and today is that medical science knows a lot more about the longterm effects of concussions on the brain. There's, you know, a lot of guys committing suicide because of it. He said (paraphrasing) "what, are they gonna turn football into a girls' game?" He said that out loud and it was broadcast on TV. This has nothing to do with it. The rule was put in because Posey fractured his ankle on a collision. Concussion had nothing to do with it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:30 PM) Neither do baseball teams, but that doesn't stop anyone on Soxtalk from knowing more than anyone in the organization about how a club should be ran. True again but at least most "people" on this site have seen a few baseball games.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) And it's fairly common to sit a guy before an off day so he gets two full days of rest, but I guess the Sox playoff hopes depend on every single game so Abreu must play. It's not like he isn't hitting. I think his ave. and OBP have been going up recently. Maybe pitchers are adjusting to him and he is in the middle of an adjustment period.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) Yes, but everybody it talking as if they are experts on how NASCAR should deal with the situation and how they shouldn't let their drivers drive at dirt tracks, etc. NASCAR has done a pretty good job of growing their sport in the last 20 years and doesn't need advice from the peanut gallery. True.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 04:04 PM) you say that like its a bad thing? Hey, what's wrong with watching people make many left turns and drive in circles for a couple of hours.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:36 PM) I think "When the announcing team calls out how he looks at the plate, whether from exhaustion or injury, it is an appropriate time to give him a day off" is a reasonable standard to me. They've done it twice this year. The last time, he played until he couldn't walk. That's why I'm calling this out now. It's time again. That was due to an injury not just because he was tired. Don't get me wrong, he could probably use a couple of "mental days" but the two scenarios aren't the same.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) And would you say playing while over-tired could also have negative effects? Of course, but what does that have to do with taking aspirin?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) This is a hilarious thread. My guess from reading all of this is that none of you have ever watched more than 2-3 NASCAR races in your life, if any. Yes, you caught me. Never been a racing fan. By the way, this happened at short track, dirt track which is really different than NASCAR.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) It's like taking medicine. When your doctor advises you to take an aspirin a day, he might complain if you don't. He might also complain if you take a thousand aspirin in a day. Those complaints are just the doctor complaining about something and should be ignored. Maybe because one isn't enough to take effect and 1000 can destroy your liver. These should not be ignored.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) Playing baseball especially 1B is not going to tire you out. And he's had more than one day off. It's more mental than physical. It just like baseball in general it's the mental focus and fatigue. The constant travel that he isn't used to also will add to it.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) Stewart was on a high line because he was directly behind the car that swerved to miss Ward, once that car swerved out of the way Tony started heading toward the bottom of the track and Ward ran to try to catch him. Confrontations ON the track do not happen very often in any level of racing. Confrontations in the pits and by the trailers after races are not that uncommon. Most times when someone has been on the track it has been to yell at the driver or flip him off (or throw a helmet at them), you NEVER see a guy run right up to a moving car in the middle of a race. The kid made a bad decision in the heat of the moment and paid the ultimate price for it. It is true that Ward is as responsible for the situation as Stewart. That is why I don't think there will be any criminal problems for Stewart. However, Stewart could have taken a lower line knowing what was going on. If Stewart really was only on a high line because he was following the car ahead of him, he was negligent for not knowing what was going on. He knew where the wreck was as he caused it and he should have been lower on the track with a wreck at the top of the track. edit: I guess my overall point is that some people are making it look like Stewart had no choice but to hit the kid. The kid put himself in the situation and Stewart made it worse with his actions. This is why the accident happened. No one has ever hit another driver before and they both did things that contributed to it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 07:38 AM) He couldn't turn, it's impossible to turn on a dirt track without skidding out of control and injuring or killing more bystanders than a Final Destination movie. Or so they say. True. That is why he hit him. If he would have taken a lower line then he wouldn't have been near him and wouldn't have been in the situation.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) How many times were those Indy drivers doing that in the dead middle of the track as cars flew by? Personally, I've sen it once in about 15 years. He walked down to the middle of the track and waited until he saw the driver he wanted and gave him the double bird. He then waited for an opening and walked to the inside of the track. I've seen it twice this year at a dirt track.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) This isn't as common as you think, and if it happens in nascar there'll be a voice in your ear warning you that they're out of their car so you know to look out for them. Also any time this has happened in nascar they moved down to the lower end of the the track and stopped moving. They also wait until things have calmed down and the cars have went by a few times, and use the safety vehicles as shields. Ward was actively moving and pointing like an idiot before the safety vehicles arrived. He looked like a football player juking. It was weird. I've seen it twice this year and probably a dozen times in the races if been to over the years and that's a small fraction of all the races around the country. I've seen it at the Indy 500 and those cars do not turn like these sprint cars.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 08:08 PM) Not sure how others feel, but at this point, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he ever becomes a solid contributor for the big league team. Hopefully he has some type of minor injury he's been trying to get over this year. Yeah, it's a weird one. He REALLY fell hard for some reason. I can't imagine if he had even a minor injury that they wouldn't have shut him down, just because it's been so bad.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) Why is Rodon being moved up? He'll get his 2 or 3 innings and then the starter will take over. Not really a big deal, imo. Still enough innings to go around for all of those guys. Maybe Rodon moves up but it isn't because of a numbers game in Winston Salem. Maybe they just to see him against better competition for a few innings.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 12, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) No, that's not what he said. And the video that I saw showed everything from Ward hitting the wall and spinning out through the end. There were only a handful of cars that had to drive by him after he started walking to the middle of the track. One of them damn near hit the guy standing in the middle of the track, and the next car did hit him. I don't know why the only options you can imagine are malice or incompetence ("he must be a horrible driver then!"). Ward was advancing more and more onto the track the whole time, gesturing and walking towards Stewart's car as it came around the track. It is pretty much either or. Either he is a bad enough driver that he is the only driver ever to hit another driver or he tried to buzz the guy made a mistake and hit him. I really don't see another option. Other drivers have gone after others in all different scenarios and no one has ever hit one. So he is either and bad driver accidentally hit him or he tried to buzz the guy and realized to late that he was too close and accidentally hit the guy. I don't believe he tried to hit him if that is the malice to which you are referring. Again this is all just my opinion from my experience in racing and with Stewart.