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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) Don Cooper said pitch count guys "are idiots". I don't totally disagree within reason. 125 pitches isn't too many as long as it isn't every game which it hasn't been.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 04:00 PM) What was the high reward with Paulino? Please use common sense. His career high in innings pitched was 139. What are the chances he blows through that after only making 7 starts in 2012 and 5 horrific minor league startd last season? And even if he was decent, what are the chances someone would give you something decent for him? Maybe he rushed back and caused the cuff injury? Maybe once it's calmed down he will return and do well. Pitchers have been known to try to come back too quickly to prove themselves. It doesn't look good now but I wouldn't totally write it off yet.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 11:52 AM) Skurkamp was released, has a 7.36 era in 29 mlb innings. See post below. He got 29 innings of experience. Now he is ready to progress at the MLB level. It's still better than the performance of Paulino or someone without MLB experience. They aren't asking him to be an ace only to eat innings and go more than 4 innings.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) The list of teams that don't have this kind of "depth" is short. I disagree. I don't think very many teams have two guys with decent MLB experience waiting.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 11:45 AM) The problem is neither are much better than Paulino. Maybe Rienzo can at least stay in the game long enough not to tax the beleaguered bullpen. This is what I mean. He doesn't need to be the ace. Just a guy to eat up some innings and get pulled in the 4th.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 06:10 PM) Nice write up on Rodon can't vouche for the source This quote from the article is great, but it reads like Boras' negotiating stance: Rodon's mechanics nag me, don't like his follow through seems like it would put a lot of stress on his arm. Video I'm with you on this one. He doesn't flex his trunk similar to Peavy. However his hand does end up by his hip instead of higher up like Peavy. I wouldn't discount him but it is a little of a concern.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 19, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) I remember this board was convinced you can lose 40 percent of your starters and still have pitching depth. They do. One of the starters is on the way out (injury or ineffectiveness) and the Sox have confidence that someone in the minors who had some MLB experience last year will step up. Rienzo is the first call. The second call will be Surkamp.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 10:06 PM) In fact he could pitch go back to second base come back to pitch again to another batter, move back to 2B. Cardinals pulled some shenanigans like that a couple years ago. Put a LOOGY in left field for a batter, then brought him back to face another lefty. LaRussa would bring in his closer Worrell I believe, have him pitch. Then bring in a lefty and move Worrell to rf then bring him back for the next hitter.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) gotta follow Soxtalk on FB and twitter so you can get the notices when things go haywire The computer was new so the first webpage I tried was soxtalk. This is when ithought it was the computer. As soon as itried another website I knew is was soxtalk. It just made me nervous right away.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 16, 2014 -> 10:02 AM) Jackson looks really good, put him in RF and let his bat carry him to the majors. I'd rank the draft for the Sox this way: 1. Hoffman 2. Aiken 3. Rodon 4. Jackson 5. Kolek 6. Beede If the Sox don't deal with Boras for Rodon (can't blame them) Jackson becomes a more viable option I think. I could see them reaching for Beede though. You can bet the house that the Sox will not take a HS bat with this pick.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 07:01 AM) I thought it was gone for good I just had a new computer delivered and was trying to figure out what was wrong with it. I couldn't get on soxtalk so there must have been a problem with the new computer.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 02:51 PM) Not sure why they didn't think of this for the 2nd and 3rd games of the year or even in previous years. Saves them money by not having to staff the UD with ushers, concessions, etc. They read soxtalk and saw my post about getting kicked out of the rf bleachers at old comiskey because they wanted to close it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) So he had a fracture too... interesting. Hopefully that doesn't change the long-term prognosis. This actually makes the prognosis better. It's a lot easier to pin the two pieces of bone together than repair the labrum. Avulsions are easy to fix. They just take about 8 weeks for the bone to heal together. If there is no significant capsular damage (there wasn't any mention of it) he should recover very nicely.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 03:41 PM) Bullplop. If you compare his first 3 starts this year with his first 3 starts last year they're within error of each other. Not sure what the SEM is for this but the range and variability is greater.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 13, 2014 -> 07:26 PM) What he said ^. I want Webb to be the closer but I also want him used in the biggest situations which isn't always the 9th inning. When we got to the 9th with the lead today it should have been Webb though. You can't have it both ways. If you go by the theory that you save the best reliever for the "high leverage" situations whenever it occurs, you need to save Webb for the next day when this may occur. Just like most mangers save the closer now. So you don't use Webb in the "low leverage" situation of a clean 9th inning. In this "easier" clean inning you go to the 2nd or 3rd best reliever which is probably Linstrom right now, so this is what you get. You can't over use your best reliever, whenever you want to use him.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 07:10 AM) I think it is asinine to label Hawkins's ceiling as a extra. You can be critical all you want about his floor, in that he has a long way to go to ever become a major-league regular with all these contact issues. But if he figures it all out, his ceiling is tremendous, not that of an extra They do this because they will be right most of the time. Most players in the minors won't reach the majors or if they do, they aren't stars. So if a prospect has a significant weakness, you say this and he won't be far off.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 13, 2014 -> 04:16 PM) Yeah. I'm not coaching baseball though. I teach junior high and coach HS football and JR high track. I was trying to make a joke sorry. But yeah, the kids i coach in other sports play for the Sparks and some other teams around here. Two girls from your track team were thorns in my daughters side last year. They are in high school now and still go at it.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) I guess I'm trying to figure out the difference in how this this injury affects bat speed for a hitter as opposed to pitch speed for a pitcher. To a novice like myself, happening to the lead shoulder like it did, it seems pretty serious. It really shouldn't effect the speed. The two things it could effect is the power or bringing the arms in for the range. These variables are dependant on the looseness or tightness of the repair if the capsule is involved which they won't kmow yet.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) The tease before the break made it seem like it would be more. Cliff Floyd says he's not getting recognition because "The White Sox aren't playing good ball." Cornelius ought to know since he is from the south suburbs.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) What exactly is the healing time on this injury? I know he is out for the season....but is there any chance he may be able to play in the Arizona Fall League? I'd really hate to see a 22 year old kid miss a full season of baseball and a short season in AZ may be perfect in preparing him for a great comeback in 2015. The research for the general injury is 3-6 months. However for a professional athlete with the demands placed upon the body closer to 6 months is a better estimate. This puts him towards Sept-Oct. He could go to AFL or winterball if the Sox are so inclined.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) I've never gotten why Frank is seen as a destructive personality. Yes he has said some things he'd like back. These are jocks. We watch games where the absolute best jocks are all thrown together. They are going to say dumb things, as it is what jocks do. If we want a collection of the best mannered getting awards for good manners..i dont know where i turn instead. Westminister Dog Show on USA? He wasn't destructive just not very kind or friendly in public. He has every right to do that. He is just a controversial personality in that area.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 10, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) No wonder atheletes stick to cliches. Anything slightly controversial or out of the ordinary and the guy takes a beating. If you say something in a public forum, expect some people to attack. I'm sure some agree with him but those people usually don't comment. In today's society eveybody thinks their opinion needs to be heard.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 10, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) Buehrle implies Maddux has cheated his whole career and this board probably stands up in applause. Frank says this, an offhanded comment, and here it's "whoops he's getting out of line again" DBL STANDARD Just like the Bonds vs. Ortiz debate. Nice guys get treated better. A pain the the rear is treated like a pain in the rear. It's the Dave Kingman treatment.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 09:56 AM) I think one of the reasons for the over effort is the speed guns at the ballparks and on TV. Years ago, they didn't exist and only a few didn't know if you were throwing 91 or 87. Now everyone does. It's out there for everyone to see. Unless you are known as a soft tosser, I think it makes you maximize the effort. Just read the gamethread. Danks was throwing 87-89, and there were a lot of comments saying he had nothing. If he had the same results and the gun was showing 91-92, he would have probably been called unlucky and posters who now think he has nothing would have been encouraged. 20 years ago, without the gun, the results were really all that mattered. Probably part of it as well. The whole climate and atmosphere in the sport (all sports really) has definitely changed.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 11, 2014 -> 10:10 AM) Our resident injury expert has a more informed prognosis in the post above. He should be the consultant to the media for all local sports injuries. I appreciate the sentiment but these are just educated guesses based on experience. I would be crucified in a public forum. It's kind of like predicting the weather. People closer to the case know what going on. I hear a few things from friends but it's mostly educated guesses for prognosis. Describing the injury and anatomy is more scientific and accurrate.