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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 06:38 PM) That is for the entire draft because they didn't spend $2-3 million on a 3rd round or later pick. They were usually right around slot I have examples of poor selections and proof there were plenty of other better players that they could have signed even cheaper.Please provide me a link of the White Sox saying they were just selecting guys to trade. There is a reason a 35 year employee lost his job in 2007, and your boy KW, didn't think it had to do with bonuses. I know you won't provide any links or proof of your position. You never do. The only thing I expect is some smart ass answer, but the proof is in the pudding. The White Sox minor league system was epically bad. No one wanted that. This is true. I know we disagree but I think the draft was sacrificed at the expense of the MLB.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 9, 2014 -> 03:20 PM) Here is where KW f***ed up. It had nothing to do with trading prospects, it had everything to do with the prospects he drafted: WArR by draft class Year. White Sox Avg. Per team 2001 10.4. 17.0 2002 5.1. 19.0 2003 8.4. 14.2 2004 14.2 12.8 2005. 2.3. 15.5 2006. 2.5. 10.5 2007. 2.0. 5.7 2008. 8.9. 4.3 2009. -0.7. 4.4 2010. 12.1. 1.6 2011. 0.1. 0.4 2012. 0.0. 0.1 2004 although the Sox had 7 picks in the first 89, the WAR is all Gio. 2008 is Beckham and Hudson, 2010 is Sale and Reed. Other than those years, the Sox entire draft has been below average. Also Joe Crede in 2006 was the last home grown hitter to post a 3.0 WAR for the White Sox. Since then, they average team has had 7 of those players. No hitter from the White Sox 2001-7 draft classes has ever posted a 2 WAR season for the Sox. KW's claim that he could have had a top farm system if he wanted is ludicrous, unless he was drafting bad players on purpose. I think some of this is true. He elected to put most of his budget to the MLB team so he took chances on guys he could sign for a low price. So in essence I think he did draft if not bad at least lower talented guys on purpose. He knew he couldn't afford the top tier. This is part of the reason I think the drafts will change as everyone will be limited in budget with slotting so the Sox will not be hurt as much.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 8, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) It surprises me because it just happened all of a sudden. From when I started at age 5 to when I left instructing at 22, barely any helmets at all, then BOOM. EVERYONE has one on, even on tiny little midwestern hills. It's just like football. People are more aware of concussions and are taking precautions. The Midwest hills need them more than the Westerns mountains because here its all ice. There is no soft powder to cushion the blow.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Feb 8, 2014 -> 10:53 AM) I know you're trying to be funny but yeah " no s***" he hates rebuilds. If he was gm in 2013, I think we still have peavy and rios. I disagree. Ithink the writing wason the wall that the 2013 team was at the end of a pretty good run. I think KW would have done the same thing. You cannot winwith a bunch of rookies. If you are trying to win you need mostly vets with only one or two rookies. This is what the Sox did for years until the time ran out. Now is the time to take losses and build the core again for a run of success. KW was in charge of the minors beforehe was GM. I don't think he has a problem with them he just knows you can't win with all rookies.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 8, 2014 -> 11:56 AM) No way. I always wear a cage. There's a difference in the chance of getting hit in the face playing hockey vs skill in not falling skiing. I've been doing it at a high level for 20 plus years. Never hit my head. Skill and reflexes do change as you get through middle age.

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 8, 2014 -> 10:55 AM) The ten places to scatter my ashes, in no particular order 1. Grizzly Lake, Yellowstone National Park 2. Laguna Meadow, Big Bend National Park 3. Pebble Beach, Acadia National Park 4. Phelps Lake, Grand Teton National Park 5. In the water off Laguna Station on an outgoing tide, South Padre Island, TX. 6. Little St. Germain Lake, Vilas County, Wisconsin 7. Near the library at UT-RGV, Edinburg, TX (It should be that long from now) 8. Renwood Golf Course, Round Lake, Il (if it is still a course of course) 9. Lincoln Park Zoo, Chicago (near the monkeys, I want to hear people laugh) 10. Bring me someplace new. Comiskey isn't one of them?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) Ug, that sounds bad. When you worked, did you see a lot of head injuries? 80% of people skiing now have helmets on for some reason, even if they are no where near trees. Its so weird to me. A few. Mostly people doingtreeskiing or going ob and getting careless. Some on double blacks that would fall speed and hit their head on ice.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) Right before I moved into my current occupation I was training quite a bit to be a ski instructor after spending a lot of my life skiing out west. The WORST injury I had skiing moguls was if you get a bit too much air coming off of a turn and jam a straight leg into the side of the next bump instead of where I was trying to land. Boom, jam your hip so bad it was hard to sit on a toilet. No doubt about it. I worked as a ski patrol for a little after college. Where the knee injuries happen is when you hit the edge and instead of keeping the knees in, one goes out.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 7, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) Hips+Lower back. Knees arent as stressed surprisingly. If you do it correctly. Poor form and the knees will go.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 07:24 PM) The whole reason for this is marketing, and baseball's about 20 years behind. One of those recent Harris "popularity" polls had NFL football at 35% and MLB at only 14%, with NBA and NHL also trailing. The NFL and especially NBA have been tremendously successful marketing individual players...and their agents, connecting them to "win win" marketing/sponsorship opportunities. I'm pretty sure other than Mike Trout there are ZERO major league players earning more from product endorsements than their actual playing contract (Boras even famously said sponsorship deals aren't worth it, his players need to concentrate 98% of their time with on-field/physical development/training activity). Absolutely, it's all about marketing to the average fan. That's why I know it's necessary for the game to grow, but that doesn't mean I like it.

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) We're shopping for new wedding bands and I am warming up to the idea of not getting gold, it seems so old fashioned. So what are you wearing? My previous ring was a tricolor gold woven pattern. So anything that remotely looks like that makes me puke. I've been searching some sites, bluenile.com etc. Where else should I look? I know it's different but this is the one I wear: http://kinektdesign.com/product-gear-ring.php It's movable and it plays right into my OCD because I was always playing with the old one and lost it.

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) One would have to look at statistics from additional seasons to discern if there's a pattern. It's not hard to believe that teams having the best pitchers win consistently, but deciding a pitcher's worth based on a single statistical measure is shortsighted. The K/BB ratio is helpful in analyzing trends, particularly when evaluating power pitchers. But I hesitate to use only a single piece of information to gauge a player's effectiveness. --Captain Decker The best pitchers, yes, a single pitcher with a single stat no. It maybe a good stat to analyze some type of trend and intuitively it makes sense that if you strike out more and walk less you will be successful. However, my original point remains: people focus too much on individual stats and players and not enough on the team and wins.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) did they at least not f*** up the condom supply? From reports that is an important one.

QUOTE (Willard Decker @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 06:01 PM) My review of 2013 statistics from Baseball Reference shows that of the ten pitchers who finished with the highest K/BB ratio, four (Wainwright, Price, Kershaw and Scherzer) played on teams that reached the postseason. A fifth (Haren) was a member of a team with a winning record during the regular season. That's not bad, sounds like an aberration that one pitcher having that will cause the entire team to go to the post season but it's worth keeping an eye on. Wainwright had 19 wins, Scherzer had 21, Hershaw 16, Price 10 and Haren 10. I'm not really sure it's a real accurate measure of wins. Edit: I'm being slightly facetious if you haven't guessed. My point is that I think too many are worried about individual things and not the teams and this "Face of the MLB" will only increase this

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 05:30 PM) young guy polite reply/ The pitcher concentrating on his K/BB ratio will help his team to have a better chance of winning /young guy polite reply Show me how the K/BB is correlated to wins.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) I have a neighbor who works for NBC. He turned down some pretty good money by not working this Olympics. I have a number of friends working on the medical staff. The texts are hilarious but at the same time disturbing about the conditions. They obviously very concerned about the health of the athletes from many different aspects.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Which is why "retirement" wound up seeming like a good option if health insurance wouldn't have bankrupted them. I agree. I still like the idea of insurance for more people but the down side is still that the current medical system is not ready for it. There still aren't enough medical professionals to handle the patient loads.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Didn't see this posted anywhere else. Apparently MLB Network is doing a "Face of MLB" contest and Paulie is up against Kershaw in Round 1. Here's a look to MLB Network's facebook post regarding it and how to participate. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...1694&type=1 old guy rant/ I know I'm old but I really don't like this idea. Too many sports are becoming obsessed with the individual athlete and not the team. I know it helps the average fan become interested and identify with them (again hero worship of athletes is a bad thing IMHO). However, I prefer the promotion of the team not the individual. I root for the game of baseball and the White Sox not an individual on the team. Now that I think about it, this is the problem I have with too many of the "advanced stats." They were created so the player could get paid through arbitration to show that even if the team did poorly, I deserve more money. Pitchers worry more about a quality start or the K/BB ratio instead of focusing on the team win. Interesting that this just occurred to me. Thanks for starting the thread. /old guy rant

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 04:52 PM) I think it was about 8 weeks afterwards before she was doing the stairs, IIRC. Wow, that is a long time. Most come along a little faster than that. Doctors can screw up replacements. There are also infections that occur that may or may not be someone's direct fault. Sometimes it's just that they had the problem so long that the soft tissues take a long time to work properly again. As I say to my patients, you had pain and abnormal mechanics for 20 years. Do you really think you will regain that motion and strength in a couple of months?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 12:41 PM) My mother taught middle school for >25 years. In her early 60's when she was not eligible for Medicare, she had a knee replaced after several years of it causing a lot of problems. After the replacement, she could barely walk correctly for a couple years and frankly she should have retired. But she couldn't, because she couldn't get health care on the individual market, so she basically taught her class from a chair for the next couple years until she became eligible. Please call more people like this lazy asses to their faces. Please. Needed a better physical therapist. I could have her walking correctly in 8 weeks

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 12:47 PM) The evolution/creation "culture war" seems to have peaked around 2005/Dover. I've watched a bit of the debate, but I can't say I really understand the point of it. I guess I could classify myself as an atheist, but people who make atheism a big part of their identity or essentially replace their previous religious fundamentalism with new atheist fundamentalism annoy the hell out of me. PZ Myers, Richard Dawkins and the whole atheist 'movement' is generally pretty awful. Not an atheist myself but one of the funniest/most aggravating to listen to is Penn Gillette. He once went on a rant going through Springsteen songs to find all of his "atheist" leanings. Absolutely, hysterical even though he was serious about it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 5, 2014 -> 10:50 AM) Again, the idea is to increase the talent level of the team, and to create real depth. Not Dylan Axelrod depth. Depth to me is guys you would confidently put on the mound and guys other teams would actually give you something of value to acquire. If John Groce let the TKE intramural team join the Illini as walk ons and called that depth, everyone would laugh. That, is Dylan Axelrod depth. Also, it may save you money if you plan on signing a free agent next year. If you want Homer Bailey next offseason, but Magic Johnson does as well, you are either out of luck or writing checks that will be a lot bigger than the checks you would be writing for Jimenez. Your point is a good one for overall talent. The problem is if the Sox believe both Johnson and Paulino are ready for the MLB, you are not helping their progress by keeping one of them in the minors. The Sox have Sale, Danks and Q for the rotation. If they add anyone from the outside you are defeating the purpose of developing talent by keeping them from the MLB. Your choice is to add outside immediate talent vs. developing the ones you currently have. Both are valid it just depends on your goal for this year. I personally, would rather see what the Sox have with Johnson and Paulino.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Feb 4, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) It's not marijuana that's the problem. It's the method of consumption. Vaporizing or ingesting marijuana isn't going to give anybody a heart attack. No the actual chemicals such as TCH are a significant problem as well.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 4, 2014 -> 02:08 PM) Yep, I was looking at that exact one at Home Depot. $399 w/ electric start. I'll probably just end up doing that. I went over the weekend and everyone was sold out of anything sub-$1,000. I just know that if I get one it won't snow again all year after tonight/tomorrow. And in 2 weeks they'll run a special on these and the price will drop $50-75 bucks. Then buy it NOW! I have the auger type 2 stage which works well for everything. I had a paddle, one stage and it didn't cut through the snow nearly as well. It made for more work sometimes in deeper snow.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 3, 2014 -> 07:57 PM) What guy? My secretary? If you couldnt understand "heroin" versus "heroine" thats more on your reading comprehension and less on my lack of proofreading an internet post. Even when I get paid to write, there is someone who proofreads for me. Ptac, You have the study? Most studies Ive ever seen regarding marijuana have a problem in that many of the marijuana smokers are also cigarette smokers, so its hard to determine its impact alone. Here are a couple of decent ones. I wish I would have saved the couple for which I'm looking. I can't remember the journals. It was specific to athletes. When I made the comment about "you will have a heart attack" that was meant for people who do it regularly. Something like once a week won't do it but the chronic users have a 30% increased chance of heart attacks compared to non-users. mj.pdf mj1.pdf