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QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Jun 27, 2013 -> 12:51 AM) I noticed the same thing. He should get day games after nights off behind the plate, but why don't they DH him periodically? You'd think that would help him stay in a groove with his batting, and it certainly isn't doing the big league club any favors to have the collection of retreads they trot out as DH getting those AB's instead. This club mystifies me sometimes... Maybe they are being cautious with him due to his injury and illness history.
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"You keep playing hard and eventually the sun comes out."
ptatc replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm going with the mystery of the defense. Something that was so good last year, fell apart this year with basically the same group. It's mystifyzing. (just like that word) -
QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jun 14, 2013 -> 08:52 AM) Brandon McCarthy is fast becoming one of my favorite people. Not just on Twitter- in general. He is hysterical. However, I think that was part of the reason the Sox traded him. They didn't feel he and Anderson took the job and improving seriously enough.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 03:03 AM) It's a bit ironic the last couple of seasons that Herm Schneider has become renowned for keeping players healthy. If you look at that 1998-2002 group, almost all of them were wiped out. Jason Stumm, Lorenzo Barcelo, Jon Rauch (was never the same after the labrum injury), Jim Parque, Mike Sirotka, Rob Purvis, Corwin Malone, Rocky Biddle (he went on to become a decent reliever with the Expos), Kris Honel, Danny Wright, James Baldwin and Matt Ginter. The only ones who became "successful" were the least highly touted of the group....Buehrle, Josh Fogg and Chad Bradford. Then there was Kip Wells, Garland and Matt Guerrier. (Of course, Garland wasn't our draft pick, he was the Cubs'). Then, of some of our recent pitchers, Hudson and Brandon McCarthy have had horrible luck with injuries, Clayton Richard some problems as well...Sergio Santos, it has almost been like a curse when we try to draft and develop our own pitchers. Of the pitchers you picked, we did not draft Barcelo or Santos either.
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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 14, 2013 -> 08:59 AM) People typically put far more of the onus on Nardi Contreras. I really don't think it has anything to do with Schneider. Stumm and Honel never made it to the Sox. Schneider would not have much to do with them.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 12:55 PM) Hopefully, in Winston-Salem, in the form of Tim Anderson or yet undiscovered. It is a shame when you think of all the money we invested into Adam Dunn, if we would have been able to get either Puig or Cespedes. And it's not like Jaime Torres didn't try to market his services to us, because of the long-standing relationships with Contreras, El Duque, Alexei and Dayan. Puig might be the closest thing to a young Roberto Clemente in the last 20-25 years. The two players that were closest were a young Sammy Sosa (before the steroids, when he was known as The Panther) and Vladimir Guerrero, but Vladdy never had the speed and sheer sense of abandon in the outfield and on the basepaths. Definitely not a triples hitter. Similar arm strength, though. We've already seen Puig throw a runner out at 1B from the warning track... Cespedes has more pure power than almost anyone in the game, but he's just an adequate CFer (he's more of a corner guy, long-term) and he's not nearly as exciting as Yasiel. We all miss Cubano for his comments on all the players from that country, btw. No idea what happened to him or where he went. It's amazing how at the time everyone loved the signing saying that a strong consistent LH power hitter is exactly what the Sox needed. He was perfect because of his consistent power hitting over his entire career was what everyone was saying. Now everyone can't wait to jump all over him as the reason the Sox arer a bad team.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 10, 2013 -> 07:39 AM) He's in a big time slump with the bat right now, seemingly popping everything up even when he gets a good swing on a good pitch. That's probably some combination of timing and mechanics, but that happens to players all the time. The only thing you can really do is play the guy and see how long it takes him to work through it. He had an absolutely stellar game with the glove yesterday to make up for it. Especially rookies and young players. Who knows maybe he will improve with more MLB experience. It has happened once or twice.
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 9, 2013 -> 02:19 PM) To ensure that he can't work on offspeed pitches? Because they don't believe they will improve?
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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 9, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) They really need to work with Santiago on his offspeed pitches. He just doesn't get those pitches over enough or fool enough hitters. The screwball sounds cool in theory, but it's just not very effective. Could be the reason they want him in the pen right now.
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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 09:10 PM) I don't really think that's the case. Rogers was critical of Williams last year because of some of the deals he made and contracts that he offered. He's one of the few guys who didn't believe that winning the World Series in 2005 gave Williams a lifetime pass from criticism. He didn't like the way he emptied the farm system -- and he thought the farm system underperformed. And my guess is that there are folks around the White Sox who also believe that folks looked the other way from some of Williams' excesses. I doubt Rogers just cooked up a story line that Williams was lazy. Not that kind of guy. Cowley? Maybe. Mariotti? Absolutely. Rogers? I don't think so. Nothing wrong with criticizing the handling of the team. His farm systems did underperform. Stating a guy was too lazy to do his job is another. What excesses did KW take? He obviously did cook up the story. The information he brought isn't new or news. He just turned into a story by calling KW lazy.
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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 10:08 PM) And people like Kenny Williams are why the Chicago White Sox are dying -- in the standings and at the box office. Rogers is a soldier. Williams was a general -- and a reckless one. Doesn't mean he was lazy. Ineffective, yes. Big difference.
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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 08:35 PM) It was just his opinion. Just like people have the opinion that Rogers doesn't know what he's talking about. Whether he was lazy or the hardest working guy in baseball, Kenny Williams left the White Sox with an immense mess that will take years to fix. For that, I say: Good riddance. I agree that it's opinion and you can say you didn't like what he did. However, for a reporter of a major new outlet in the town it's quite irresponsible to do that. He will point to last year when KW was turning the job over to Hahn and say he was right It's just a guy with an axe to grind and it makes him look petty and bitter that KW didn't like his profession.
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QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 08:12 PM) Maybe Kenny Williams will go fix the Oakland Raiders And take Adam Dunn to play QB. He can't leave soon enough Go Phil, Go. You can disagree with the philosophy but saying a guy was too lazy to do his job is just irresponsible.
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 8, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) Don't shoot the messenger. Maybe Rogers is telling us the truth about KW. I've never heard nor seen anything that would even imply this about KW until last year when Hahn was slowly taking a more active role in things. KW did slowly do less and allow Hahn to "get his feet wet." So the stuff last year is probably somewhat true but not from being lazy. It sounds like a reporter firing at a guy who always disliked the media and having to deal with them. Just like many of the radio guys didn't like him because he wouldn't go on the radio.
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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/Mar/11...marcos-pitcher/ I like the follow through when throwing the circle change. Young pitchers will often alter the motion with the changeup
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QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 02:05 PM) DANG LOOK AT THIS PLAY BY JACOB MAY He's got Alexei Rameirez CF skills!!!!
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) I think people get too carried away with rankings. If Law and Mayo had all the answers, they would be running someone's draft. Baseball America uses guys like Phil Rogers to rank guys. Baseball is one sport where individual teams' board vary greatly. If you get one really good player out of a draft and 2 or 3 complementary ones, it's a great draft. For all we know ultimately the best player out of this draft for the White Sox may not have even been selected yet. It does make it fun, but it's really impossible to criticize fairly until a few years from now. This should be the first post for the draft thread every year. Just copy it and start the thread with it.
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QUOTE (TomPickle @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:58 AM) Those guys were handled a lot differently though. Buehrle had 30 starts in the minors before he came up and Sale didn't even have 30 IP before he was called up. I don't see how they could take this kid and not at least try him out as a starter first. I would as well. However, if there is a contract clause similar to Sale's (I would doubt that as a HS is different than a college pitcher) it could change. The key factor will be if he develops something other than the FB/slider mix, although some MLB pitchers can get away with that as well especially with the deception in his delivery.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) The question is how much velocity or movement might be affected should they go that route... For example, Jose Contreras, that arm slot/angle always made a huge difference between dominant and ineffective. Then you have the control/command issues and changing "muscle memory." I think Greg has brought this up a few times in reference to Nathan Jones and the way he slings the ball...but it doesn't seem the White Sox have ever really tried to change his mechanics (correct me if I'm wrong, minor league experts). The White sox are very good about letting pitchers throw the way they want to and focus more on the grip and quality of pitches. Cooper has often said that it's the results they look at. They only thing I've really ever heard him discuss with mechanics much was balance but this too was more related to being able to throw with command rather than actual mechanics. I like this approach. As a person who has studied throwing mechanics and worked with pitchers, people are far too concerned with minute differences in mechanics.
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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) Maybe they are going to rush him up to the big leagues as a reliever....seems when you take a high school kid these days, you're almost betting on him going through TJ surgery at some point in the minors or first six years in the majors. However, as we all know from the John Danks discussion/s, shoulder injuries aren't easy to come back from at 100%. Still, if the White Sox are really going with TBA philosophy, they have to be considering him as a starter FIRST, because you don't draft relievers generally before the 5th/6th rounds. There have been some exceptions with the White Sox, Royce Ring, Poreda (they wanted him to be a starter), Addison Reed was 3rd round, I think Josh Fogg was picked in the first five rounds (yep, looked it up, 3rd round) as a closer out of the Univ. of Florida and then converted to starter, and Sale started out in the bullpen his first two seasons. I'm sure they are thinking long term starter. It could be a Sale or Buehrle scenario where he comes up as a reliever but the plan is to make him a starter. Those mechanics just scare me. Not to say that he can't pitch with those but it leaves alot of room for doubt.
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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:45 AM) The are reports he is very willing to change arm slot and accompanying mechanics if so desired by the drafting team. Maybe the Sox plan to clean it up. That would be a big risk. I'm sure a lot of his effectiveness is similar to Peavy, those mechanics create a very different movement on his pitches. If you "straighten him out" there is no guarantee he will be effective.
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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 7, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) Well obviously you give him a chance to prove that he can't start, but everything about the way he throws screams reliever eventually. The way he throws screams shoulder injury. Anterior capsule, subscapularis or labrum most likely. Not a fan of guys who don't have the good trunk flexion and follow through.
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QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 03:27 PM) AFAIK both MLB and the Olympics use T/E ratio as basis for further testing. This is the only way to truly get an accurrate test. There are so many unknown substances out there that they do not know what to test for. However if you have the baseline you can test fort he effects.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 6, 2013 -> 10:20 AM) Hey look. Jake Peavy, yet again, gets hurt trying to be a tough guy. Heaven forbid he ever once fess up that he doesn't feel right. He did not get hurt trying to be a tough guy. He got hurt and tried to pitch through it when they thought the rib was hypomobile. This is why they tried the manipulations. It's amazing the how injuries turn into the player's fault and trying to play with pain is all of their problem. You do realize that all pitchers have some type of pain or soreness by this time of the year. The key is trying to figure out which ones need to be shut down. A non-displaced rib fracture would be impossible to diagnose without the severe pain and imaging. The logical first step it to look at the hypomobility.
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Herm Schneider gets his own yahoo article...good for him
ptatc replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 24, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) Was it the "lap band" or gastric bypass? I'm not sure. I didn't ask details. I know he had the surgery lost a bunch of weight, gained some back and is now down again. He has really battled it and come out strong.