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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 08:04 AM) At least, we think there's a relationship between that injury and the others. That and fatigue from the layoffs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 07:41 AM) I was expecting February. By March, he's behind the pace of most Major League athletes who have the same surgery. Physically you can go back to playing around 9 months sometimes as late as 11. However, athletes will tell you that while they can play the knee doesn't feel "normal" until around 18 months post-op. If he is truly waiting until it feels "normal" as opposed to playing when he is physically cleared, it could be next year.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Feb 23, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) Depends on if Virginia makes the tournament. haha. I think I'm gonna be optimistic this year. They should make the tournament. With Duke having a down year and Loyola winning their first championship in a long time, Virginia should be sitting pretty good but I think Hopkins has the inside track on the Lacrosse title. Oh wait.....you probably meant some other sport.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 12:30 PM) It also has a lot to do with what they think of Brent Morel if you ask me. I still think that by the end of the year, Morel will be the starting 3B with Gillaspie the left handed back up and JK as the super utility guy. Provided Morel's back is healthy of course.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Feb 21, 2013 -> 05:32 PM) wtf is up with his elbow. officially out. The Bulls guard on Monday detailed the right elbow infection that caused him to miss the last seven games. "I punctured my bursa sac,'' Hinrich said. "It was an impossible stitch. The feedback that everybody was giving our trainers and from the docs was that there was a good chance it was going to get infected. And it finally did. "It got to the point where it was going to get pretty bad, and I started feeling sick. I was really hurting and had to go get it taken care of.'' Hinrich underwent an operation during which the bursa sac was removed, cleaned and sewed back up. Before the procedure, he couldn't bend his arm because of the swelling. Hinrich said doctors told him the elbow would not become re-infected. He spent two-plus days in the hospital absorbing a constant flow of antibiotics. "I just want to get it taken care of,'' he said. Hinrich doesn't expect his minutes to be restricted when he returns to the lineup Tuesday night in New Orleans. Those are extremely painful injuries. It can really restrict your range of motion. I've seen the swell up as big as a baseball hanging off your elbow. His isn't that bad but I can see where it would restrict him from bending his elbow to the point that he cannot play.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 20, 2013 -> 11:25 AM) I don't think we're really disagreeing there, ultimately. That the top 1% captured all of the income growth and then some is indicative of the weakness and type of 'recovery' we've experienced over the past several years and while the stock market's doing just fine, most people aren't. This is why people with money to invest took advantage of the time when the stocks were low and are now rising.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 19, 2013 -> 12:24 PM) I do honestly hate that the Astros are in the AL now, 8 years after they were in the World Series for the NL. Any of the Padres, Rockies, and Brewers would have made more sense. Taking the Brewers from the AL to NL back to AL would look really bad for the league.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 20, 2013 -> 06:28 AM) huh? Very few people get an increase of 121% through salary alone. It takes investment growth to do that. Only people with money can invest it. You need money to make money.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 08:37 AM) Emmanuel Saez has an updated paper out looking at income distributions. The top 1% have captured 121% of income growth since 2009. http://www.scribd.com/doc/125269359/Gettin...her-Edmund-Saez The whole thing should be summarized as you need to make good investment to have significant income growth in 3 years. Only people with money can invest it, thus you need money to make significant money in a short period of time.

QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) And isn't a dip in velocity expected after shoulder surgery? They should really ease Danks back into the rotation. Has there ever been any discussion of Danks being the fifth starter? If he responds well, they can always shuffle the rotation around off days and the ASB. No. But it's expected before he has a chance to build up his throwing routine and build up his throwing strength. Remember he really hasn't thrown since August or whenever it was he was shut down. I think he has only a few times in rehab. Could you lift the same amount of weight or run the same distance if you took 4 months off? Would it even be smart to try?

QUOTE (TomSeaverFan @ Feb 16, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) I'd rather have Mark Buehrle on the team than Jake Peavy, that's for sure. I don't know why you would. Peavy is a much better pitcher than Mark at this stage of their careers.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Feb 16, 2013 -> 07:51 PM) For a 60-minute run at 10 minutes per mile pace, you really don't need water/snacks, especially in this weather. As it gets hotter, it will change. But I don't think water is must for that type of run so long as make sure you are hydrated pre-run. If you are planning on doing a marathon as it looks like, you need to make sure you have strong legs. Not like super lifter legs, but running legs to prevent common running injuries that occur when people start upping mileage like shin splints, plantar fasciitis, etc. You really need water in the winter. It's very dry when the weather gets cold. Humidifiers on your furnace really kick in for the winter. You're right about the snacks, not as much of the calorie burn.

QUOTE (Jake @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 11:51 PM) I'm having fun doing my runs every morning and not lifting for my upper body... but seriously. Getting up and doing 3+ mile runs 5 days out of the week is like crack. I have never been so outgoing and upbeat in my everyday life. I don't know that it is simply exercising that does it, maybe it's being outside, maybe it's jamming to music for 30 minutes while I run....but it is great. My rest days suck. Now I need to start getting more compression shorts so I don't have to wash mine every day. And socks that don't make me blister. And some anti-chafing lubricant. And probably need to start thinking about new shoes, but at least I got my last pair from a running store so they are suited for my stride style. The part that I'm not too close to, but seems completely crazy, is when these training manuals are telling me I'm supposed to wear a fanny pack on my 60+ minute runs to hold water and snacks. I just can't fathom wearing a fanny pack around. It's the endorphins and enkaphalin release you get after 30-40 of continuous exercise. Seratonin use is also altered. They are all mood enhancers after regular release.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) In 1995 a friend of mine worked at Funway in Batavia, and we used to dress up as the Funway mascots and run around KCC Stadium with Ozzie the Cougar. It was brutally hot but we had a lot of fun. I was there at that time.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 01:36 PM) I was just reading the other day that there is "outrage" that the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are on shaky ground in regards to budget./funding, and how that "outrage" would most likely prevent it from actually happening because they are "beloved". It's gotta come from somewhere... If you are an aircraft enthusist there is not much better than either of those. It's really a thrill watching them. I've seen each one a few times. They could charge for their own airshow and make a ton of money. It would probably impact the number of kids entering the military for pilots but probably not worth the cost. As we saw with Mayor Daley's behavior, government does really value sport aviation.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Feb 15, 2013 -> 06:06 PM) Kevin Millar believes the Sox are underrated playoff contenders. He is a good guy and alot of fun. I worked with the Kane County Cougars in the mid-90's and it had him, Josh Beckett, Ryan Dempster, Mike Remond and a few others. It was one of the most fun I ever had working with a team. They had one of those murder mysteries at the ballpark that year and most of them participated. It was an umpire murdered in the dugout.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 05:06 PM) This is the best argument for why the NBA rule is okay Ive seen yet. At least you are saying that it some way has a tangible benefit for the players, they will receive more money later on. This is part of the larger point. The players are more prepared to play at the pro level partly due to the physical maturity and part because they are mentally ready to handle it.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 05:03 PM) Some listen, some dont. But whether or not they listen, isnt dependent on whether they went to college. Some of the people who listen best to advice are those who didnt go to college. Some of the people who are the worst, have graduate degrees. Many smart people dont listen to advice, because they think they are so smart that no one else possibly could have anything to tell them. I honestly think that while we have different opinions we both are actually wanting the same thing, for these athletes to have the best chance to succeed. I just dont trust the NCAA/NBA to be making the best choices for them. I'm not necessarily requiring college. Only the growing maturity with age. A formal minor league system would do as well. Either way you will not catch all of them but more of them will be ready for the physical and emotional/social rigor of professional sports when they are 20 vs. 18 with life experience away from home. You correct that we want the same thing. We just have different ways to get there. I'm basing my opinion on experience with these guys in pro sports. The guys who spent time in minors or college are very different from the guys who don't. Of course it doesn't apply to all of them. No one rule does but it is true for most of them.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) Exactly. That is why its nonsense to suggest 1 year of college is going to dramatically improve someones chances about being foolish with their money. There is literally no evidence to support it. Agreed. 1 year isn't enough.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 04:43 PM) but the reason they are destitute is because they arent getting good advice. If they took the 20mil, id immediately put Ymil in a trust that would pay out X per year and you cant touch principal. That would eb their safety net. They then would get other money to use as "fun" money. Scottie Pippen went to college for multiple years, he was bilked out of millions by a very well known law firm. You cant prevent bad things from happening to people. You can only put them in the best position to succeed. 99% of the world will never make 20mil in their life time, so if you can get that type of generational wealth, you do it, and you figure out how to protect it afterwards. The real issue is that during those 4 years if they get injured and get $0mil, no amount of growing up or knowledge is going to make that magically turn into $20mil. You can advise that they is a safety net that they cannot touch but most don't listen. You can't prevent bad things from happening but you can put them into the best position to make good decisions. Many of the under 20 players don't lose their money because of poor investments, it's spending the money like it will never end. The injuries that will preclude someone that talented from making his money are few and far between. Am injury may delay them a year but rarely are there career ending ones.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 04:20 PM) You presume that is best for the player. And you can presume most are to immature to know what is best for them. But as someone who is over 18 and who is paid for living to advise people, I would advise almost every 18 year old who can make a maximum of $20mil per year, who is being offered $20mil to take the money and run. Because when you are already being offered the maximum amount you can make, you have 0 reason not to take it. You are taking risk for nothing. And I am extremely risk averse. Now other people may advise differently, they may say you should stay in college for 1 year because in their opinion that 1 year is invaluable. I would strongly disagree, but that is opinion. And I guess when it comes to opinion, Id rather that the kid gets to use his own, as opposed to the NBA telling them that this is whats best. No one has a right to be in the NBA, no one has a right to an employment. But we all do enjoy the right not to be arbitrarily discriminated against and I believe that this type of age restriction falls into that box. I'm sure you would. Unfortunately, I've seen this situation really go poorly and the same player be destitute by 30. Again, I don't think 1 year does it. I would go for 3-4 years if no true minor league system is available. Sometimes kids need to be told what is best for them in the long run and not be short sighted because as you said earlier not every kid could afford you or one of your brethren.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) No its the best post, because not 1 person in this thread as an 18 year old would have liked to have been told: "You cant get paid $10million dollars because we have an arbitrary rule, so you have to play next year at a risk to yourself and potentially not get the $10mil." Thats just insane. 18 years olds don't have to like it. Most of them are too immature to know what is best for them. Playing in the NBA is not a right. It is best for the NBA and the player that they mature both physically and emotionally before they are thrown into professional sports.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:55 AM) How does that really change after 1 fake year of college, though? Wouldn't the whole college scene and the wider national exposure make the late night scene and the hangers-on even worse? I agree one year doesn't work. It should be more.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2013 -> 10:40 AM) I don't see why these kids should be forced to make money for the NCAA for 1-3 years while receiving no compensation for themselves. Because the NBA doesn't want to spend the money on a true minor league system.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) Our estate planning paralegal knows more than any ep attorney in our firm. Hilariously she does all of the paperwork, the attorney doesnt even look. Yet she isnt qualified because she doesnt have the time/money to go to law school. Im not sure what you mean "this is the point" as you quoted 2 different points. The first point is about the fact that there is no "public policy" concern. Regular people arent going to die because they went to a NBA game and Kwame Brown was playing. But they surely could die if a "Doctor" doesn't know what they are doing. As for the part about the NBA protecting their investment, that is exactly the point and why its completely unfair to the 18 year old. The NBA is a billion dollar corporation, it should be the one to carry the risk. Otherwise it should have to pay into an insurance fund for kids in college who get injured so that they have some money. This is a subject Ive been strongly against for like 8 years now. I really hate barriers of entry. For sports teams I think they are a must. Coming out of high school most of them are far too immature physically and socially/emotionally. Physically it does the league and the player a disservice because they are an injury waiting to happen and can be a danger to themselves and others around them. Socially/emotionally they do not handle becoming a millionaire over night very well. Between the entourages and people taking advantage of it or the late night scene, it really is a disservice to them. I've seen far too many players just not handle it well at a young age.