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  1. QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 26, 2011 -> 07:06 PM) I really question why Morel is still playing in games. He's providing nothing offensively, and we can't sacrifice at bats just for someone who's supposed to be a good fielder. You need to stick with young struggling players and help them develop. Once the Sox decided to give him the 3B job, they need to stick with him or send him to the minors. He will not improve sitting on the bench.
  2. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 26, 2011 -> 07:01 PM) Dunn hits that one out later on in th season Well he's missing alot of them now.
  3. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) Merk Anything under 80 pitches really doesn't matter anymore. He needs to do the side sessions between starts to build strength. However, until he has the strength to get to 100, there is no imminent return to the majors. It's all the process of building strength.
  4. QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 11:08 PM) I think a lot of you haters are going to be choking on those harsh words about Peavy. I think he's going to be effective by June and dominant by July/August. I think we'll know long before that.
  5. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:37 PM) Seriously though, it's starting to feel like all of those Prior/Wood "simulated games" and "towel exercises" that we used to hear all about. Same theory of building up strength as the simulated games but I prefer the Sox method of real games. The towel drill is just a mechanics teaching drill which most people don't subscribe to.
  6. QUOTE (Knackattack @ Apr 21, 2011 -> 12:47 PM) Well, he HAS pitched, just not up here. Like ptac said, no one really knows how this particular injury is going to affect him. All we can hope for is that these are just growing pains in his process of getting better. They are going to keep going through the same process of trying to increase his number of pitches to 100 in consecutive appearances without pain. that's when they'll bring him up. Currently his limit seems to be about 75-80. The endurance of the arm just isn't there yet.
  7. QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 19, 2011 -> 11:33 PM) From Sun Times story. My god, he takes anti inflamm medicine for six days and maybe starts throwing Friday. How can that be good news? I'm not stressing cause I'm not counting on him pitching more than a start or two this season. I'd just shut him down frankly until next year, unless all of this discomfort, etc., is totally "normal." ptatc? any opinion? shut him down for the year? Shutting him down will do no good. He needs to throw. He has done all of the strengthening possible short of pitching. He spent 3 months strengthening the shoulder in non-pitching ways. The injury is healed, the muscles have been worked on. Shutting him down will only make the muscles weaker and make it tougher later. The only hurdle he needs to overcome is actual throwing. You can't train for a marathon by walking. He needs to throw and they need to gradually build it up and take care of the shoulder as problems arise. All of the problems have been with inflammation not structural damage. This is treated with the medication and some rest then the strengthening must resume. The big question is can the shoulder hold up to the throwing with the stress of pitching. since this has never been done before, it's all trial and error with educated guesswork. The Sox are following current medical knowledge and protocol for something like this. Maybe we'll find out how important the lat is to the throwing motion from how everything reacts during his continuing rehab.
  8. QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 13, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) Removing dominant starters after eight innings really is a sucky part of modern baseball. Is there any proof one more inning, considering the adrenaline the pitcher would have, helps ruin arms? Mark and Danks should have completed easy, clean, victories recently. These clean victories can set a tone for a season. Instead we see what happens when you start anew and bring in a reliever. I say we need a brave manager or GM or owner (Nolan Ryan) to say "f*** pitch counts" when starters are dominant through eight. Let 'em finish their masterpieces. Did Picasso let some clown finish his work at the end? Oops I meant 'change' in my headline. can somebody change it? You're going to need the pen at some point. You've got to try to work them through problems. Letting them sit on the bench will not help them improve. You might as well try it now because if the pen is bad, the season is over. The starters can't complete every game. Actually, there is a theory out there that Picasso did leave some of his work to be finished by others, A child of his i believe.
  9. QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:56 AM) Can anyone recall a lights-out closer who transitioned from an extended, multi-year "apprenticeship" as a set up man, like Thornton? I honestly can not (I thought maybe the Nasty Boys, but I think they were mostly always interchangeable). There have got to be a few, but it seems like most of the best either got thrown right into the fire, converted from starting, or set up for no more than a year. Latroy Hawkins has been cited here as an example of a failed transition, and I'm wondering how often it’s done successfully. As has been said, I think there is a huge difference between innings 7-8 and 9, and mental intangibles (or just plain gonads) are a key to closing. Unfortunately, they have to be tested under fire, and 0 for your first 3 = a failing grade. Roberto Hernandez set up for Thigpen? Mariano rivera set up for Wetteland? I do agree that there is a huge difference between 7-8 and 9. It mostly mental but the ones who can overcome the mental pressure are the ones who are sccessful.
  10. QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 10:16 AM) On a ground ball, it may have moved a fielder out of position a led to a hit and prevented a double play. However, I think it is more likely that it could cause the double play. 1. It could move the fielder to where the ball may have been hit to and Konerko would still not beat a throw. 2. A line drive and Paully is dead meat. 3. TCQ strikes out and Paully is out by a mile. Do hit and run with guys who actually have a prayer of making second even if there is a strike out and don't do it while Braden's control was inflating his pitch count. I would go with the opposite. I send the slow runner to give him a chance to get there on a ground ball. He has a better chance to break it up if he has a head start. He is never going to beat out a throw on a ground ball. Especially with a hot hitter like TCQ who isn't striking out alot. A line drive and anyones is dead. This is the true gamble in the situation
  11. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 11, 2011 -> 06:38 PM) True. Either way the '3-year' rule was never an option. Now it's REALLY not an option that JD has established himself as one of the best non-ace pitchers in baseball. I'm just saying something is going to have to give. Same with Jackson if he has a good year. I think the Sox would go 4 just like with MB. However, they will not go more than 4. I don't think Danks will accept 4 unless the money is crazy. I think Danks is gone once he hits FA. KW will need to pull off more trades to get more young pitching.
  12. QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Apr 12, 2011 -> 09:19 AM) Yes, that's exactly why. Once they see his ridiculous decision making during games they'd feel different. It's too bad really, because I actually like Ozzie but just wish he had a good bench coach that would make the decisions for him or at least keep him in check... I think the big problem most posters have with Ozzie is that he think long term benefit for the season not short term for each game. A couple of examples: With last nights decision is he is more concerned with MB being strong for the whole season and into the playoffs than continuing in the game. Ozzie will put inexperienced relivers in important pressure situations to see how they handle the pressure. He does this to see if they can handle it later on. He rests his regulars more than most managers early in the season so they are stronger later in the season. All of the decision may cost individual games but may win some later on and help the team in the playoffs. There is no right or wrong just a difference in philosophy. I see both sides but lean toward the team being stronger later on. I have this discussion with one of my friends constantly because he likes the other side and thinks an awful manager because he "throws" too many games.
  13. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2011 -> 09:15 AM) Swishers chest was at the base. He was plenty close. That is fine in baseball in the US. However in Japan they wouldn't like that play. They slide to the bag. The "as long as his hand can reach the bag, it's ok" is a distinctly US version of baseball. I don't have a problem with it but I understand why the player might because he wouldn't expect it.
  14. QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Apr 8, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) Also, if you really wanna get into how terrible TCQ is vs. lefties, the idea that his 2008 OPS is bringing up the mean to some crazy degree is unfounded. Career OPS vs. Lefties: .773 2008: .937 2009: .716 2010: .764 His career splits more closely resemble his 2010 than his 2008. Regardless, there just aren't enough PA's and there is too conspicuous a luck factor to make any broad conclusions about his ability to hit lefties, particularly when his numbers are counterintuitive (he bats righty). They DEFINITELY don't warrant a platoon. Part of the overall team problem with lefties is that the middle of the order, PK, TCQ and Dunn all hit RHP better than LHP. So even though it looks like the lineup is balanced is isn't. This is why you see the lineup changed against LHP so often. As a team the Sox have problems with LHP especially the "soft tossing" ones.
  15. QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 8, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) He throws a splitter too but ya his slider has more downward movement than the average one does. That's because he actually throws it properly with an over the top motion instead of trying to drop down and get more lateral movement. It reminds me alot of the way Roberto Hernandez used to throw his. He was a very good relief pitcher due to that slider.
  16. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 4, 2011 -> 08:04 PM) Elvis Andrus homered. /thread Nelson Cruz has also homered for the 4th consecutive game. He's on pace for about 356. I love the offensive explosions we've seen so far. Pitchers' duels are boring as s***. I disagree. I love watching the pitchers duels. I tune out during slugfests and offensive explosion. I also prefer 14-10 football games with a great defensive battles.
  17. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 4, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) Hochevar is garbage and Francis is a soft tossing lefty. I'd be quite surprised if they don't score enough runs - 4-5 at a minimum for both, and I'm expecting closer to 6-8. White Sox= awful against soft tossing lefties.
  18. QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 3, 2011 -> 12:45 PM) He swung at a 3-0 yesterday, so I think he didn't expect a hittable pitch on the 3-0 today. Considering he swung and missed the 3-1 and almost chased the 3-2, I don't think he was being passive. this is true but there were 2 other very close pitches which were right at the belt called high. they were very hittable.
  19. those are the at bats that are going to kill me from Dunn. 2 outs and he got 3 very hittable pitches and he works the walk. he should be trying to drive in the run not work his OBP.
  20. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 2, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) He's said some things over the offseason that might show that he's actually adapting. If so, he only needs to have one guy start on Tuesday, another on Wednesday, etc. I hope you're right.
  21. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Apr 2, 2011 -> 04:08 PM) Ozzie has to have learned his lesson by now. We can't afford to throw games away, even this early in the season, by putting a lot of the bench guys in all at once. It's fine to scatter guys in during the week, but there should never be more than one (two on occasion) bench guy starting unless there are injuries, we've clinched, or we've been eliminated. You know you will see this. Ozzie likes to rest his regulars especially early in the season so they are fresh later in the season. I'm not saying I agree, I'm just saying that you know he likes to do it and will continue to do it.
  22. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 1, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) As long as I get to cheer for 1 HR for every 4-4.25 k's, I'll be thrilled. Good, at least one of us will survive. Might as well be the younger one.
  23. QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 1, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Gameday view only for me. Dunn K's with runners on 2nd and 3rd and it was his first RBI chance for the Sox. Trade him!!! A walk or a strike when contact will suffice will be the death of me all season (if I last that long).
  24. QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Mar 31, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Yes, a lot of miles on Lackey and Beckett, too. They were both stud power pitchers at a very early age. I worked with Beckett in the minors. He was a live version of Nuke Laloosh right out of high school. I swear he almost hit the mascot once. Good guy but he does have alot of miles on that arm.
  25. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 11:22 PM) Oh my goodness. dan, this was a splendid piece by you. But a small part of my soul died after reading it. This franchise has the nerve to not want to hand out contracts over 3 years to pitchers? This has to be the worst collection of SP talent I've ever seen. the primary concern is injuries. These contract come back to haunt you more than they are successful. I would never go more than 4 years for those reasons. JR got bit hard with the Dotson, Bannister and Burns contracts i the mid-80's, along with Navarro later on. The only one that has worked is the Buerhle contract and people complain that he isn't living up to that contract. I agree with JR that these contracts don't make sense and KW needs continue to find young pitching in trades.
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