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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 05:20 PM) Yes, but those who think one specific guy is the answer are crazy. The guy was stating some stat that there's not a 200 game winner among all pitchers drafted No. 1 overall and only a handful who have won 100 games. I will never want my team to lose a game in August or September while happy we might get a better draft pick. I want to win every game even if we are 15 out. The guy was even saying some people don't like the pitching delivery of this year's consensus No. 1 pick. And they talked about Mark Pryor (Prior? sp) falling apart. I don't care about the draft. Give me proven players. KENNY!!! I didn't know you posted at Soxtalk! (I happen to agree in most cases)

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 04:12 PM) Charlotte has a lot of flotsam on its roster that should get cleaned out. I'd like to see Danks, Allen, Retherford, Cook, and a few pitchers from B-Ham in Charlotte after the first half ends. Guys like Ward, Myrow, E. Torres... they are just taking up space. Pitchers becomes more complicated, but I think Contreras ends up back on the Sox anyway, and possibly C. Torres, leaving room for guys like Omogrosso, Poreda and/or McColluch. Also in the pen, Fernando Hernandez has no reason left to be in AA, he needs to be in Charlotte eventually this season. Maybe this was the plan all along and WHY KW filled the Charlotte roster with re-treads.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 09:27 PM) One wonders why the Expos ever traded him in the first place. To get Mark Langston, of course.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 11:10 AM) i don't think we expect him to be. but pedroia-like isn't completely out of the question in a year or so I know. It was just a reply to the "we haven't had an impact player from our minors"

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 4, 2009 -> 10:48 AM) Awesome!!! Great to come into work in the morning, and see this first thing on the computer!! First time I can remember the White Sox actually having such a high-impact prospect in the minors ready to hit in the majors I don't want to rain on the parade. However, as good as he could be I don't think he will match Frank Thomas.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2009 -> 09:23 PM) Why not? Ozzie's a player's manager, so he's going to stick up for members of his roster. I think this is the key. Ozzie sticks up for his players and gives them every chance to produce or fail. Sometimes to a fault. I also think it helps more than it hurts. Wise will be gone once Ozzie thinks he has had a fair shot after coming back from his injury. Contrary to what many think on the board, Ozzie doesn't want to lose while giving favorites chances. As long as you are professinal inyour approach to the game and work your tail off he'' give you chances. Where BA went wrong a few years ago is that not only did he not produce but by his own admission, he didn't take it serious enough. JMHO

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2009 -> 09:09 PM) You have to worry that our production against newcomers has become a mental thing. Only for the last 2 decades. The Sox have been like this against new pitchers since the 80's.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2009 -> 03:45 PM) He's been playing all the positions in the minors. What's the difference? If he can catch the ball and hit better than what's in Chicago, its time to move him up. He's coming up in September anyway. The difference is that you don't take a kid who is still learning the professional game and give him too many things to worry about. At the minor league level there is little to no pressure and he is expected to learn once he is here everything will be increased. By the way he is averaging 1 error per game played at 3B in AAA. If he is expected to play the position well, maybe the Sox should let him learn the position before he is brought to the show.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 11:01 AM) The big key with all of these kids is to get the pitch counts up. See a lot of pitches, foul off as many as possible, and see the whole arsenal. Make them work, get them into tough spots, and work them out. The more you see, the less "newness" there is in these guys. this is his major league debut. We don't stand a chance. I predict our first hit won't come until the 4th inning.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 12:59 AM) As Thunderbolt got at, Thome's always been a great hitter, and great hitters are usually clutch. Thome's been doing this for a while. 500 was a walk-off, 550 was a game winning 3 run homer, what's he going to do with 600? Hit and destroy a bank of lights on top of the stadium.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:53 PM) The thing I noticed tonight, Josh doesn't even really have a load in his stance. Most hitters (power hitters mainly) turn their hips and hands back while they step. While Josh is stepping, he goes up with his hands with that hitch. He doesn't really load and his mechanics are all f***ed up. He needs to get his hands back, not drop down with his right shoulder, and get a good rythem in swing. Also, he really needs to choke up on the bat a bit, especially with 2 strikes. I also don't care about him finishing up with 1 hand. I've never believed that really affected your swing. Think about, when you make contact with the ball, it doesn't matter what your swing looks like at the end. You gotta focus on getting that bat through the zone with some velocity and putting a charge in the ball. Whether you finish up with 1 hand or 2 hands on the bat, all that matters is what your swing looks like when you make contact with the ball. most people who advocate the release of the top hand say that it keeps the bat on the same plane longer so that the hitter can make more efficient contact. This way the top hand doesn't "pull" the bat up because the top hand is no longer in contact. I don't really buy it because the pronation of the top hand should nullfy it but who knows maybe for some people with decreased flexibility it might make a difference. The Lau/Hriniak philosophy of hitting somewaht revolves around this concept.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2009 -> 06:44 PM) Since we're on the subject, I have the problem of occasionally pulling muscles in those areas, side of my neck, etc. Happens randomly, last time I was sitting around basically doing nothing when my neck started to hurt. Goes away after a day or two, but I keep wondering why I'm doing it or if there's anything that can be done to avoid it. Usually something like this that is re-occurring comes from a postural problem. The scalene muscle mentioned before sidebend the neck to the same side as the muscle and flex the neck. Most people have a forward or flexed neck posture especially those who spend a great deal of time on the computer. The best way to prevent this is to keep your neck and head in a better posture. Concentrate on keeping your chin tucked back into your neck. Not tipped down like you are looking down but slide your chin back like a drawar. Another way is squeeze your shoulder baldes together every 10 15 minutes. You cannot keep your head forward while your scapulae are pulled back. the stretch mention in the previous posts will work to loosen the muscles as well however build ing the strength to maintain the good poture is the key to preventing it from recurring.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 31, 2009 -> 08:05 PM) Take your right arm and place it behind your back and grab your right hand with your left hand and your left arm should be out like a chicken wing. Now roll your head to the left and you should feel the stretch in the right side of your neck. Now repeat with the other side. Do this before any shoulder, back, chest workout. This is pretty good. However sometimes the excess internal and external rotation of the arms behind your back can cause shoulder discomfort depending on how flexible the persin is. Another stretch would be to sit in a chair and hold onto the edge of a chair with the hand of the isde you wish tostretch. Lean the opposite way to stabilize the should. Take your opposite hand and gently sidebend your head away from the sore side to feel the stretch. The key is to stacilize the lower end of the muscle and strech the upper end.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:47 AM) No big time program in college athletics is clean. I have good connections to 3 major programs, and I can say with 100 pct certainty that they've broken the rules with either academic issues or illegal benefits. This is true. Most illegal payments and such hapen in the athletic training room where the treaments occur and where no press is allowed. However it doesn't make it right and cheating is cheating. If a person is willing to cheat to get what he wants he will do it in all situations. It may be getting into Memphis or during a game or taking illegal PEDS because they are helping him get what he wants. there is no difference.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) Amenities Private lounge for entertaining clients and guests Premium reserved parking outside of Gate 3 Premium buffet in private lounge with all beverages included Private access to best seat locations in the park Wait service at the best seats for food and beverages Comfortable, wide seats Questions - I have access to buy scout seats for a game on this homestand. Are the drinks free? Is the food free? What time should I get there for a 3:05 game? I would plan on getting there earlier enough that you can comfortably eat dinner. I usually go one hour. The food and drink in the lounge is free. The beer and select food is free in the stands.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ May 29, 2009 -> 11:14 PM) Shrugs are for building traps, but do they help build a strong neck too? Does anyone use the neck machine? The traps do go up the back of the neck. They are the thick muscles you feel when you put your hand on the back of your neck. They do not help the sides of the neck, these are primarily the scalenes. The only way to strengthen those is by sudebending your head. This really isn't advisable unless you are a bodybuilder as the exercises put a great deal of stress on the discs in your neck.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 28, 2009 -> 06:47 PM) http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/159...memphis.article What a dumbass. There is a chance Derrick knew nothing of this since his brother Reggie is a a-1 scumbag and practically keeps his on a string, but that is not likely. It's ironic that Reggie is now accused of receiving money from Memphis and he was the one always saying how kept a watchful eye on Derrick so bad influences couldn't affect him. maybe it wasn't there were any bad influences but instead that there were no other influences other than him.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 27, 2009 -> 04:13 PM) What is meant by "extended time"? Are we talking 15 days or are we talking several weeks or months? Thanks. As stated before it will linger for most of the season most likely. 15 days will help it to feel better but tissue takes 3-4 weeks to go through the inflammatory phase and begin healing. If they do the 15 DL my guess would be he would still be limited and probably need some extra time as the season goes on. If they did 30 days he may be able to go the rest of the season without missing much else. All that being said this is a tricky injury that really varies from person to person. With the drastic treatments they've already tried the above scenario is most likely the case.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) Black Jack McDowell's take: From the first rumblings of Carlos Quentin's heel and foot problems, I knew from the brief descriptions we the public were receiving, that it was not good news. Now that the White Sox training staff has confirmed what I was certain of for a while, Quentin is suffering from plantar fasciitis, I'll tell you it is not good news for Quentin or the White Sox. Plantar fasciitis is basically an irritation or slight tearing of the long, thick band of tissue that connects the ball of the foot to the heel. Once it is irritated during a season with such a grueling schedule as baseball, it will be a daily mess for all involved. There is no quick fix. Cortisone shots will not alleviate the problem. When White Sox trainer Herm Schneider reported that Quentin felt "a pop" in the area in yesterday's rout of the Angels, and interim manager Joey Cora was quoted as saying "I hear that's a good thing," that should shed some light on the severity of the injury. You see, the only remedy for Plantar fasciitis is to surgically sever the connective tissue and proceed without it! But that procedure would end Quentin's season today. So, the plan of action (which I have witnessed first hand several times over my career) is to have the player push through the pain, as much as is bearable, and HOPE the ligament will "pop" and tear itself! Gotta love what an athlete will do to stay in the lineup! And let me tell you, it is a very painful injury that colors every move Quentin will make on the field, let alone every step he takes off it. White Sox fans should hope for that big "pop" sooner, rather than later. This would be a huge mistake. Any time the surgical resection of the plantar fascia is done, the results poor. It rarely resolves the pain and the foot become very unstable and causes excess wear on the posterior tibialis, anterior tibialis and flexor hallucis tendons. Tendonitis will appear in these tendons and everything is a mess. His description is also somewhat superficial. The plantar fascia is a band of tissue which goes from the front part of the heel to the base of the first 4 toes. Its primary purpose is to support the arch especially during the latter part of gait when the heel comes off the ground. When the heel comes off the ground the toes extend and this motion pulls the plantar fascia tight and supports the arch. This is why running will aggravate very quickly. If its inflammed even putting weight on the arch hurts. The arch supports are used as a replacement for some of this support. Conservative treatment of shoe wear modification, rest and atni-inflammatory modalities is the best approach. He will need to miss time and it will probably be extended time but unless he wants it to be a lifetime long problem he needs to do it now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2009 -> 08:42 AM) Two questions... Will Wise be ready now? And #2, will 15 days on the DL help Q that much if this injury is going to slow him down all year anyway? It will decrease the pain and allow him to be more effective for a period of time. He may become a HR or singles hitter as the running hard to second for a double will be the thing that hurts him the most, along with sprinting in the field.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 26, 2009 -> 09:47 PM) CQ may not be 100% all year I'm afraid! that's a given

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2009 -> 08:08 AM) I've now been told by a doctor, multiple physical therapists and trainers that any press (bench, incline, decline, military) should only be done to the point where your upper arms are level from the shoulder - no lower. Lower increases risk of shoulder injuries dramtically, they say. The reason that the pull downs behind the head and lowering the bar are bad is that both put a great deal of stress on the anterior joint capsule of the shoulder. This part of the shoulder is the weakest part to start with and once it "loosens" the rotator cuff comes under stress to "stabilize" the joint.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 20, 2009 -> 12:04 PM) I'd like to hear the "why" on that as well, since I had a shoulder issue and surgery a few years ago that may have been caused by bad weightlifting technique (my thoery is doing bench press all the way to chest bounce, and lat pull-downs behind the neck). The "why" to start at the back is two fold. 1) Most people have a flexed, rounded shoulder posture. If you start with the back you tend to straighten up more for good technique 2) Most people worry more about the anterior muscles (biceps, pecs, ant. deltoid) and skip the posterior muscles, which are more important for reason #1.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 26, 2009 -> 01:20 PM) Would scar tissue make an audible "pop?" If so, I wasn't aware of that. Yes, it can and frequently does. Especially in superficial tissue such as the plantar fascia. Under general anesthetic manipulation for total knee placements which lack motion due to scar tissue, the "pop" is so loud it can echo.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 26, 2009 -> 12:53 PM) Was that the article where Big Herm said the popping sound TCQ heard is a good thing? If so, I wonder why? I'd like a bit more of an explanation than just that tidbit. The only explanation for that is that they believe the problem may be scar tissue between the plantar fascia and the surrounding tissues. The "good popping" would be the tearing of scar tissue to allow more flexibilty and increased blood supply to the area.