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QUOTE (fathom @ May 25, 2009 -> 08:48 PM) Personally, Quentin should still be put on the DL. Agreed. If they were desperate enough to do cortisone shots and shockwave back to back the heel was really hurting. I don't know if it was the same thing or maybe compensating for the pain that caused the problem today but he obviously hasn't been running right for awhile. He should rest it.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 22, 2009 -> 06:04 PM) If it is that type on injury it could be up to a year to heal that heel properly He also had a controversial procedure done on his heel called shockwave. It creates microtears in the soft tissue in an attempt to healing. The literature is split on it's effectiveness. Since he had it done, it is a fairly severe problem that is going to linger for quite a while.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) You saw it was plantar fascitis, right? Yes, and the same concept applies. The plantar fascia originates from the anterior part of the heel. Heel pain and plantar fasciitis go together 80% of the time. In fact with many cases of plantar fasciitis the only pain they have is at the origin at the heel. Same goes for heel spurs which can be the etiology of the plantar fasciitis.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2009 -> 03:21 PM) Good to see him back. BTW, not a lot of talk about Quentin's injury on here yesterday. If the Sox fall 12-15 games out of it by July, it might be wise to shut him down for an extended period. Always a good idea with long term heel pain. You can adjust the shoes and use anti-inflammatories all you want but rest is the only thing that will truly get it healed.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:35 PM) Enjoy it, because it signals the end of the good life and the beginning of s***ty adulthood. You should have stayed longer. Or be in a profession where you are required to keep going back and only partially live in the real world. more degrees and research is the best way to to stay out of the real world.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2009 -> 02:44 PM) Who is to say that Floyd won't get more confidence out of the pen in very specific situations taylored for his own success versus going out and getting his ass kicked all over the AL? Who is to say that two weeks away from the game, followed by some starts against AAA teams won't allow him to work his mechanical problems out, all without the pressures of each pitch being important? In those scenario's I don't think he learns what he needs to. He needs to learn to pitch over some of the problems. He may learn more for the long run getting beat up. You never know what works with individual players. I hope the Sox staff can figure it out. Either way I don't think they make any move until at least the AS break.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 20, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Floyd is a little farther along in his career. If he gets getting lit up, he's leaving the rotation. There comes a point when "growing pains" become confidence destroyers. The Sox took Jose Contreras out of the rotation in 2007 and he had a lot more money left on his contract than Floyd does. I don't focus on the money, only the long term benefit for the team. This really is Floyd's second year of full time starting so I think they will give him more time. If it lasts 1/2 a seaon, like with Contreras, then they may move him. But not until near the AS break.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) The positives of winning out weigh anything else. But not necessarily short term thinking only. They will sacrifice some games to get him right and producing in the future. The same with Getz and Fields. The team will let them go through growing pains to see what they have for the future. Players go through a learning process and people just need to be patient. The classic cliched example is Robin Ventura. How many people on this board would have wanted to get rid of him during the 0-41 to start his career? That isn't struggling that is horrible. Yet , the sox learned by the way he was handling it, that he could be productive later on in his career. So, as much as it hursts in the short term. We must have patience.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 20, 2009 -> 11:29 AM) That's a good one, read it a few years back. I think I've pimped it here before, but if you want a historical book that reads as interesting as fiction, and is among the best I've seen at painting a picture of how the American persona was built... Blood and Thunder, by Hampton Sides. I've read it. I'ts good as well.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 20, 2009 -> 10:56 AM) Yes, a lot. I just finished reading a book called "The Crusades: Islam and Christianity in the Struggle for World Supremacy" by Geoffrey Hindley and a couple months ago read "1066: The Hidden History in the Bayeux Tapestry". The one about the crusades was kinda hard reading. Didn't love Hindley's writing style as I felt I spent too much time trying to decipher what I just read rather than remembering what I just read (if that makes any sense). The one about the Bayeux tapestry was very interesting. It gives some background on it and also proposes an alternate theory for it's creation. I have a lot of historical non-fictions, the majority are of medieval Europe (mostly England) or ancient Egypt. I have not read the majority, I just have a bad habit of going into Barnes and Noble and leaving with two or three books every time I'm there. As for fiction, I just finished Steve Berry's "The Third Secret" last night. It was meh. It's one of his older ones. I generally like him and love his books with Cotton Malone as the protagonist. This book was pre-Cotton Malone and it took too long for me to get into it and it just wasn't as exciting IMO as his latest works. Good writer and a very good series.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 20, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) Last few years, I've read more non-fiction than fiction. Anyone else read any substantial amount of non-fiction, particularly history-related books? -- Here's a seperate question. Name an author who you like that you'd call a guilty pleasure. Something you know is not great literature, but you just enjoy it anyway. I'll throw one out there: Tony Hillerman A great book is: Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond. I'ts an historal and cultural persprective on why culture and civilizations developed the way they have on different continents.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) DJ and Farmer were talking today that a common mechanism of heel injuries in baseball is stretching out/jumping forwards as you're taking your last step towards 1b and trying to beat a throw. Sounded reasonable to me. It is. That is part of the acute heel contusion, when you land awkward on it. Anytime you land awkward with a great deal of weight like that you can bruise the sfot tissue fat pad. That's similar to the poster earlier who said he hurt his hitting a base.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 13, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) Cmon. Injuries happen. I'm sure they have the best equipment and training as everybody else. Shoes are very different from pair to pair. Just because it's a professional franchise doesn't mean they don't get a bad batch. Training also varies. May be with all of the bad weather they ran indoors and aggravated the heels. That's only one possiblity. There could be many. Never equate pro sports with good training, medical care or even equipment. Those are very political decisions in oraganizations and (like most things) revolve around money. All that being said, the Sox have one of the best medical staffs in pro sports. However, that does mean things can't happen like the example I gave earlier.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 12, 2009 -> 04:40 PM) The Score, so I assume it came from Cowley, said that he already had a cortizone shot. So it's probably something like tendinitis. typically there are two causes of heel pain. One brusing of the soft tissue fat pad, as someone stated earlier which is an acute condition which should heal rapidly. The other is heel spurs or a chronic irritation of the tissue around the heel which can be a much longer issue. Usually, a cortisone injection is for a condition like this where conservative treatment has already been tried. since he has had the injection you can assume that he has had this problem for at least 7-10 days. the bigger issue may be that since Thome also had heel issue what type of training are they doing or what type of shoes are they wearing that would cause multiple players to have the same issues?

QUOTE (Brian @ May 8, 2009 -> 07:26 PM) Everything is away. Adjust. you would with the way he hangs over the plate, away would be the one pitch he could hit.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2009 -> 06:55 PM) Nix looks like a 10 year MLB veteran compared to Lillibridge. Lillibridge is completely overmatched at the plate, and besides his speed, has no tools to really develop. I agree with you though, the Nix love will probably last another week at the most. Then, we'll hear calls again for Alexei in CF and Beckham at SS. I think the Sox see Lillibridge as a utility player and the one thing that he does bring is good to outstanding defense at multiple positions which is a good asset for a UT. He is definately not a starter at this point but with the injuries and lack of production he is forced to play more than he probably should at this point.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) Thanks man, I appreciate the advice. I just got back from a run trying out my new kicks. No shin pain, at least not in the way I had it before, just the basic knee (I havent been running in a year) type strain. I feel pretty damn good. I could tell these shoes were keeping my feet a little more steady. Shoes and proper training (not over training) are always the 2 most important factors. Those to factors help 80% of my patients.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 8, 2009 -> 06:03 PM) The raw tools. I also cannot see why people want to see more of Nix in the lineup. Are the raw tools any better than Lillibridge? At least Lillibridge had some success in the minors. Nix got cut by the Rockies. If you can't hit there you are in trouble. I'm not necessarily advocating for Lillibridge but I don't see Nix as that much better of an option.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 8, 2009 -> 01:54 PM) Shoe brands often have a specific type of foot fit, or a few specific ones. So its not necessarly that one is bad in general, its just bad for some people. I have a running shoe made by Brooks, called The Beast. Its meant for large fram runners (I'm 6'3" and currently 245, but even at my ideal 200, I ain't a small guy) with ankle stability problems (like me). They work great for me, highly stable and comfortable, and high enough to keep my ankles in, even with the orthotics. But Brooks might be horrible for someone else. For bigger runners Brooks and new balance tend to be the best because of the larger toe box and insole design.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2009 -> 01:42 PM) Dude, I need you to help me with my stride. I have run for a few years and lately I have had serious shin pain (not shin splint like pain) but almost muscular or focused just above my ankle. I think its my nike running shoes that I switched to and only recently bought a new pair of sauncony shoes to see if that was the issue. most of the time pain in this area is caused by too much heel strike. When you contact the ground it should not be with the posterior or middle part of the heel, it should be toward the front of the heel. there are many reasons for this improper striking pattern it is usally just habit or over striding. during the first part of your run go slower and try to land on the front part of the heel. Don't try to do it all at once because the change can cause others problems. Ease your way into it and the pain will dissipate. From the description you gave it sounds like you strike it quite a bit of supination. In this position your foot is rigid and doesn't absorb the forces of impact properly. If you land further forward on the heel you'll land more into pronation and this will decrease the force in the area.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 01:41 PM) For those who are curious look at the bottom of a well-worn pair of your shoes. If it looks like one side or another has more ware than the rest, you probably have an un-even gait. Left uncorrected it can lead to ankle, knee, hip, and/or back problems. For those interested, I've attached a power point that I use to for talking to physical therapists, podiatirsts and such on training for runners. I've worked with runners for many years and have done 12 marathons. the principles are based on my own research and the references listed at the end. Training_for_Runners.ppt

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2009 -> 10:33 AM) Its one thing for Gammons to be biased in Boston, but on espn he should treat it like Manny was the guy who beat the Red Sox in the WS. I'm sure his opinion would be different. Its seems pretty far fetched a guy would START using PEDs after the league starts testing for them. If anything, Manny's statement via Boras that he has passed 15 tests only shows testing isn't where it should be yet. One thing to remember is that someone is always going to invent a new designer steroid that will be undetectable. This was the case with BALCO. You can't test for something for which you do not know the chemical breakdown. This is why the masking agents and such are also banned. Manny got caught trying to reduce the after effects of some sort of previously unknown PED. This could very well mean someone has concocted a new PED. The only reason the BALCO scandal occurred was that a track coach turned in a sample of the PED to the USOC and the labs then knew what to look for. I like what the program for which the USOC is doing a pilot study. You take a base blood sample. You analyze the subsequent blood sample and look for any abnormalities and base the penalty on changes from the norm. There will always be the desire to cheat in athletics and someone will convine a chemist/pharmacist to create the new PEd (or the other way around).

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 8, 2009 -> 10:35 AM) Sox lose-10 page rants on how the team isnt constructed properly, how coaches cant coach and how everything needs to change. Sox win, *crickets* If you can't say anything negative, don't say anything at all.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 4, 2009 -> 08:30 PM) We had this discussion before. It will be a disaster if Walker tries to make Flowers, Beckham, Allen and Viciedo patented "lift and pull" hitters. They've all consistently shown their best power to the opposite field this season. I think everyone goes overboard on Walker for the offense year after year. Your earlier point about Liilibridge is that he doesn't pull the ball. Jim Thome hits many homers the to the opposite field. Maybe it's just the fact that to win at comiskey you need to hit homeruns, so KW has put together a homerun hitting team. Since most hitters hit more homeruns if they pull the ball, this is what the hitters do. They see the way the ball flies out of this park and start to hit that way. Very few coaches at the professional level will totally change the way a player plays. They will tweak it and adjust it, but not totally change it. If the hitter has a good hitting style to hit the opposite way they will. Iguchi was a good example, I don't recall Walker wrecking him. When a team is missing a third of their starters (Fields, Anderson and Dye) one of whom is the clenup hitter, the team will struggle to score runs. JMHO

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ May 4, 2009 -> 06:34 PM) Will Perdue is teaching him a slider, wow. He has a good downward plane for the slider.